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You might as well stop. Ford started taking orders for the 2923 model on the 15th, and stopped on the 22, all sold out for the year.

Nobody wants a cheap little pickup, at least that’s what they told us for years.

As an aside, saw a pretty decent looking VW pickup on the interstate yesterday. Dang, THAT was a tiny little thing! Not sure I’d want to go back to anything that small, but I understand now how they got 50MPG with that little diesel.


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The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.


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Originally Posted by 5spd
The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.

The new VW pickup is not available in the US and being a current VW something I would not touch.


Old VW pickup was based on the Rabbit. A friend owned one and was quite pleased with it . He was a crane operator and drove it all over the place for work.


My neighbor up the street just bought a Maverick Lariat . One year wait she was told. I told her that it gives you a year to realize what an Idiot you were for buying it.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.

The new VW pickup is not available in the US and being a current VW something I would not touch.


Old VW pickup was based on the Rabbit. A friend owned one and was quite pleased with it . He was a crane operator and drove it all over the place for work.


My neighbor up the street just bought a Maverick Lariat . One year wait she was told. I told her that it gives you a year to realize what an Idiot you were for buying it.

Why?


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Originally Posted by EdM
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The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.

The new VW pickup is not available in the US and being a current VW something I would not touch.


Old VW pickup was based on the Rabbit. A friend owned one and was quite pleased with it . He was a crane operator and drove it all over the place for work.


My neighbor up the street just bought a Maverick Lariat . One year wait she was told. I told her that it gives you a year to realize what an Idiot you were for buying it.

Why?


Because it is a FORD and who needs a small pickup?

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.

The new VW pickup is not available in the US and being a current VW something I would not touch.


Old VW pickup was based on the Rabbit. A friend owned one and was quite pleased with it . He was a crane operator and drove it all over the place for work.


My neighbor up the street just bought a Maverick Lariat . One year wait she was told. I told her that it gives you a year to realize what an Idiot you were for buying it.

Why?


Because it is a FORD and who needs a small pickup?


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My uncle has a Maverick Lariat and he loves it. He of course isn’t a farmer or construction foreman, just a retired guy who occasionally has to haul a lawnmower or a chair or something.

I plan to get one for my wife in a year or two if we can find one when the time is right. I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

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Originally Posted by BobMt
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The vw pickup is based on the ford ranger, smaller though, saw one in Post Falls last week in a vw lot.

The new VW pickup is not available in the US and being a current VW something I would not touch.


Old VW pickup was based on the Rabbit. A friend owned one and was quite pleased with it . He was a crane operator and drove it all over the place for work.


My neighbor up the street just bought a Maverick Lariat . One year wait she was told. I told her that it gives you a year to realize what an Idiot you were for buying it.

Why?


Because it is a FORD and who needs a small pickup?


how old are you?....bob

Why do you ask? If you don't like what I post don't phu-cking read it. We are all entitled to our opinions.

The maverick will have a 2.0 liter direct injection turbo engine. Honda is having all kinds of issue with same size engine and Honda is the gold standard for small engines.

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simply asking if you are talking from experience or out of youthful stupidity ....bob

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Different maker, but it was on the news the other night that the Dodge 1500 3L diesel will be no more and it will be replaced by an electric one. Can anyone confirm that?


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Originally Posted by BobMt
simply asking if you are talking from experience or out of youthful stupidity ....bob

Talking from a lot of experience , I used to sell the phreaking things in the 70's and was the Truck manager. We never had a ford truck ever come back, cars not so much. Complete different company and philosophy these days.

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Different maker, but it was on the news the other night that the Dodge 1500 3L diesel will be no more and it will be replaced by an electric one. Can anyone confirm that?


https://tfltruck.com/2022/09/news-2...-will-the-be-the-last-light-duty-diesel/


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Local Ford dealer has 3 2022 Mavericks in stock.

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Originally Posted by MikeL2
Local Ford dealer has 3 2022 Mavericks in stock.

What's the amount over invoice they want for them? The average dealer sticker is 18.4% over MSRP.

https://fordauthority.com/2022/09/2022-ford-maverick-among-top-new-vehicles-priced-over-msrp/


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Front Wheel Drive. I think I'm going to be sick....

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Front Wheel Drive. I think I'm going to be sick....

LOL, can you feel your weenie shrinking just thinking about it?


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Originally Posted by Dutch
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Local Ford dealer has 3 2022 Mavericks in stock.

What's the amount over invoice they want for them? The average dealer sticker is 18.4% over MSRP.

https://fordauthority.com/2022/09/2022-ford-maverick-among-top-new-vehicles-priced-over-msrp/
Listed at MRSP on their website, no markup.

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Local Ford dealer has 3 2022 Mavericks in stock.

What's the amount over invoice they want for them? The average dealer sticker is 18.4% over MSRP.

https://fordauthority.com/2022/09/2022-ford-maverick-among-top-new-vehicles-priced-over-msrp/
Listed at MRSP on their website, no markup.
Does Elton John sell Fords online?


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... I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

That's my consideration. Commute to work/wherever. Bed is big enough to hold a couple of bales of hay to put out in the morning as I'm leaving, take garbage out, haul dead venison, occasionally pull a 5x8 atv trailer, etc. It's not a replacement for my "real" truck but would replace my daily commuter and save me gas doing light things I use a truck for now.

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
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... I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

That's my consideration. Commute to work/wherever. Bed is big enough to hold a couple of bales of hay to put out in the morning as I'm leaving, take garbage out, haul dead venison, occasionally pull a 5x8 atv trailer, etc. It's not a replacement for my "real" truck but would replace my daily commuter and save me gas doing light things I use a truck for now.

It’s not a truck, it’s a trucklet. I ordered one because I now drive 35 to 40K miles a year. I’m not doing that in an $80K 3/4 ton getting 14 mpg. This trucklet gets high 20’s in fuel economy, is under $30K with some options, and still carries 30 feed bags, the garbage or a limit of sharp tails and two dogs just fine. If I need a truck, I have a $200K Kenworth. That’ll pull a 50K lb trailer “all day long”, uphill, through the snow, with a 1,600 mile range.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
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... I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

That's my consideration. Commute to work/wherever. Bed is big enough to hold a couple of bales of hay to put out in the morning as I'm leaving, take garbage out, haul dead venison, occasionally pull a 5x8 atv trailer, etc. It's not a replacement for my "real" truck but would replace my daily commuter and save me gas doing light things I use a truck for now.

It’s not a truck, it’s a trucklet. I ordered one because I now drive 35 to 40K miles a year. I’m not doing that in an $80K 3/4 ton getting 14 mpg. This trucklet gets high 20’s in fuel economy, is under $30K with some options, and still carries 30 feed bags, the garbage or a limit of sharp tails and two dogs just fine. If I need a truck, I have a $200K Kenworth. That’ll pull a 50K lb trailer “all day long”, uphill, through the snow, with a 1,600 mile range.

Exactly.....but....lol....my "real" truck needs end at pulling a stock or hay trailer!

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A 2door single cab for a couple grand less would be a great little service/fleet truck. 35ish mpg is pretty damn good.


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There are none for sale in the area I live. Ford, I was told by the local dealer, did crack down on dealers trying to sell for more than MSRP.

I view it as a alternative to the awd SUV we currently use as our primary transportation vehicle. It won't replace my pickup truck but it is a lot better for all sort of small hauling jobs around the farm than the cargo area of a SUV.

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I had a 2002 Ranger and it was a handy little truck. Drove the hell out of it until some idiot was texting and driving and totaled it. Good rig for running around town or making trips where I may have needed to haul some items. Brought a lot of deer out of the woods too. I have an F-250 Super Duty for the big stuff but a small truck that is good on fuel is not a bad idea. I have seriously considered the Maverick but I always for 2 years after a new vehicle is introduced to see what sort of problems they have.


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I had a little Ranger as well. ‘93 I think. Single cab, 5spd, 4 banger.

Good little truck. I abused the hell out of that thing and it just kept running.

For personal use I’d likely look at the Ranger over the Maverick.


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The dealer here shows 1 on the lot for $49k but it's a '22.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I had a little Ranger as well. ‘93 I think. Single cab, 5spd, 4 banger.

Good little truck. I abused the hell out of that thing and it just kept running.

For personal use I’d likely look at the Ranger over the Maverick.

The new Ranger doesn't save you anything cost ways over a stripped down F-150. But a stripped down Maverick, even in all wheel drive, has an MSRP of less than $24K


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Originally Posted by Dutch
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... I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

That's my consideration. Commute to work/wherever. Bed is big enough to hold a couple of bales of hay to put out in the morning as I'm leaving, take garbage out, haul dead venison, occasionally pull a 5x8 atv trailer, etc. It's not a replacement for my "real" truck but would replace my daily commuter and save me gas doing light things I use a truck for now.

It’s not a truck, it’s a trucklet. I ordered one because I now drive 35 to 40K miles a year. I’m not doing that in an $80K 3/4 ton getting 14 mpg. This trucklet gets high 20’s in fuel economy, is under $30K with some options, and still carries 30 feed bags, the garbage or a limit of sharp tails and two dogs just fine. If I need a truck, I have a $200K Kenworth. That’ll pull a 50K lb trailer “all day long”, uphill, through the snow, with a 1,600 mile range.
I bet they are bulldoggin’ SOB with 1500 lbs in the bed


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I have an old Explorer Sport-Trac that has been a great vehicle for me, over 200K and still going strong. I thought that it was a winner, but Ford must not have.

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Coworker was looking to buy one to replace his ranger, ended up buying the new bronc, will probably be glad he did, anyone remember the izuzu pup from the early 80s, had a buddy that had one, we used to ride home in the bed after drinking all night, it made a ranger pickup seem big.


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I'm not in the market for a Maverick but I will say I see quite a few of them running around our area. IIRC Ford wanted a small truck for urban types who might not have the money, space or need for a full sized, full capable 1/2 ton.

I'd say that likely works as an alternative given those parameters. Most of the people I see driving the Mavericks tend to be grey haired and older - I'm thinking it's like some have commented above - I need to move the occasional chair, take leaves and brush to yard waste and pick up nick nacks for the old lady - this works at 1/2 the cost.


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My 75 year old neighbor is on the waiting list for a Lariat. She has a year wait and it was a tad over 40k

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Car makers spend a lot of money researching the markets. They don't just make a car and hope it will sell. They make them for what the market will buy. Sometimes they're wrong but usually they're right. Toyota, for example, decided to avoid the heavy hauler/rv market and not make a Tundra in 3/4 or with a diesel. Their market is for the light haulers and they've sold millions of pickups.


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... I view them as a far more useful version of a midsize car, decent mileage, easy to maneuver in parking lots, and far more versatile than a Camry.

That's my consideration. Commute to work/wherever. Bed is big enough to hold a couple of bales of hay to put out in the morning as I'm leaving, take garbage out, haul dead venison, occasionally pull a 5x8 atv trailer, etc. It's not a replacement for my "real" truck but would replace my daily commuter and save me gas doing light things I use a truck for now.

It’s not a truck, it’s a trucklet. I ordered one because I now drive 35 to 40K miles a year. I’m not doing that in an $80K 3/4 ton getting 14 mpg. This trucklet gets high 20’s in fuel economy, is under $30K with some options, and still carries 30 feed bags, the garbage or a limit of sharp tails and two dogs just fine. If I need a truck, I have a $200K Kenworth. That’ll pull a 50K lb trailer “all day long”, uphill, through the snow, with a 1,600 mile range.
I bet they are bulldoggin’ SOB with 1500 lbs in the bed

We're going to find out a little before Christmas.....

The only thing I'm not going to do with that thing is load it up and run across the pivot tracks. I'll let you know if it falls flat. For sure can't pur helper springs or airbags on it.....


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The bed is 54” long
Big enough for you to lay down in, you goofy lookin little inbred bastard.

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The bed is 54” long
Big enough for you to lay down in, you goofy lookin little inbred bastard.

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I learned to drive a stick on the road in my dad’s Chevy Luv version of the Isuzu Pup. Yeah, it was small and had a tiny 4-banger, but it was tougher then most half tons I’ve seen lately, and ran forever. He even hydroplaned and flipped it on its roof, slid to a stop, and some farmer helped him turn it back over, and he drove it away. Lol

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The bed is 54” long
Big enough for you to lay down in, you goofy lookin little inbred bastard.

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