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Those people need help

Then hop to it skippy... a clue for you, they will destroy you for trying

This ^^

Anyone who thinks they can help dope fiends is a fool and has no experience with them. A dope fiend can help themselves or get help if they so decide but 99.9999% won't.


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We should be handing this stuff out for free to anyone who wants it. Put an incinerator up at each location to deal with the garbage.

Have kids?

Yep. And family members who are dope fiends. And I've lost very close friends to overdoses.

What's your point?

My point is I’d be totally fine with lethal doses of poison in random pints of Ben and Jerry’s. It’s not healthy, anybody eating one should know better. I don’t eat it because they actively subvert America.

Would that be cool?

To hide lethal anything in something innocuous and hand it out to people randomly is evil. (This is what you just proposed)

To hand out whatever dose of whatever drug a dope fiend would like with full disclosure is not. (This is what I proposed)

But we need to have a method for cleaning up the aftermath if the family won't retrieve the body - hence the incinerator.
Boutique ice cream pints aren’t innocuous. They are unhealthy and will eventually kill you. Making them do it quicker randomly isn’t evil. It’s natural selection. And since I don’t eat it I’m totally cool with it.

Analogies can be tough


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You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too. Dope fiends are not innocent and dope is not innocuous.


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Originally Posted by Geno67
You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too.

Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
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You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too.

Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.

That is not critical thought - it's a fallacy.

Ice cream in responsible amounts isn't going to kill anyone. But putting something deadly into and randomly distributing it as you propose will and that act is pure evil.

Dope (in this case heroin and fentanyl laced with another - more dangerous - drug people say they actually prefer) is very dangerous and will kill you. EVERYONE WHO USES IT KNOWS THIS. I am not saying dope fiends should be forced to overdose - simply allowed to do what they wish to do with full disclosure (this is not in any way evil). No amount of circular logic allows a critically thinking mind to come to this conclusion simply because you want it be so.


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Originally Posted by Geno67
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You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too.

Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.

That is not critical thought - it's a fallacy.

Ice cream in responsible amounts isn't going to kill anyone.

Dope (in this case heroin and fentanyl laced with another - more dangerous - drug people say they actually prefer) is very dangerous and will kill you. I am not saying dope fiends should be forced to overdose - simply allowed to do what they wish to do. No amount of circular logic allows a critically thinking mind to come to this conclusion simply because you want it be so.

Ok. Public notice then, random pints of Ben and Jerry’s contain something you didnt intend to buy. It will kill you quicker than the regular gay commie ice cream you thought you were buying. If you win the lottery, enjoy your ice cream and know you monetarily contributed to the demise of the US of A. If you die, well, should’ve made better choices. Let the games begin.

Lacing otherwise non-lethal doses of dope with fatal [bleep] isn’t evil?


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Originally Posted by specialK
Those people need help
What kind, who gives it, and who pays. Lots of people need help, some actually deserve help, where would you start or better yet stop?

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Okay.

We should also cancel Medicare too.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
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You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too.

Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.

That is not critical thought - it's a fallacy.

Ice cream in responsible amounts isn't going to kill anyone.

Dope (in this case heroin and fentanyl laced with another - more dangerous - drug people say they actually prefer) is very dangerous and will kill you. I am not saying dope fiends should be forced to overdose - simply allowed to do what they wish to do. No amount of circular logic allows a critically thinking mind to come to this conclusion simply because you want it be so.

Ok. Public notice then, random pints of Ben and Jerry’s contain something you didnt intend to buy. It will kill you quicker than the regular gay commie ice cream you thought you were buying. If you win the lottery, enjoy your ice cream and know you monetarily contributed to the demise of the US of A. If you die, well, should’ve made better choices. Let the games begin.

Lacing otherwise non-lethal doses of dope with fatal [bleep] isn’t evil?

You're a real piece of work. What - exactly - have you done to help the dope fiends you desperately want to defend (and at the same time want to compare to ice cream eaters - as insane as THAT may sound)?


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Originally Posted by Heym06
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Those people need help
What kind, who gives it, and who pays. Lots of people need help, some actually deserve help, where would you start or better yet stop?

Like all foreign aid?

Medicare?

Medicaid?

Disaster relief to folks knowingly living in hurricane zones, flood zones, and tornado alley?

Can I decide who we help or is it just super clean self righteous pricks?

I say anybody that got the jab gets no public funds. Choke to death on your own blood and repent before you die


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Originally Posted by Geno67
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You're a piece of garbage human then - I'm okay with that too.

Critical thinking isn’t for everyone.

That is not critical thought - it's a fallacy.

Ice cream in responsible amounts isn't going to kill anyone.

Dope (in this case heroin and fentanyl laced with another - more dangerous - drug people say they actually prefer) is very dangerous and will kill you. I am not saying dope fiends should be forced to overdose - simply allowed to do what they wish to do. No amount of circular logic allows a critically thinking mind to come to this conclusion simply because you want it be so.

Ok. Public notice then, random pints of Ben and Jerry’s contain something you didnt intend to buy. It will kill you quicker than the regular gay commie ice cream you thought you were buying. If you win the lottery, enjoy your ice cream and know you monetarily contributed to the demise of the US of A. If you die, well, should’ve made better choices. Let the games begin.

Lacing otherwise non-lethal doses of dope with fatal [bleep] isn’t evil?

You're a real piece of work. What - exactly - have you done to help the dope fiends you desperately want to defend (and at the same time want to compare to ice cream eaters - as insane as THAT may sound)?

Nothing that I’m going to post publicly.

Sometimes good people make bad decisions. Sometimes they are fatal. Sometimes they are swift. Sometimes it’s slow and there is time to help them take corrective action.

As I said in my previous post, if we’re going to triage who we give assistance to, jabbed come last. Then we can work our way up the ladder.


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People who shoot up morphine and fentanyl are fully aware of the dangers.

If they have a supply of it that's free - they won't need to commit any property or violent crime to obtain it. If they shoot up the correct amount, they live. If not, they won't. No different than when they had to scrabble, steal, rob and hustle for their next hit. It would be a good use of my tax money. Those who judge wrong remove themselves from the gene pool thereby improving it.

We need to stand aside and stop thwarting natural selection.


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Originally Posted by Geno67
People who shoot up morphine and fentanyl are fully aware of the dangers.

If they have a supply of it that's free - they won't need to commit any property or violent crime to obtain it. If they shoot up the correct amount, they live. If not, they won't. No different than when they had to scrabble, steal and hustle for their next hit. It would be a good use of my tax money. Those who judge wrong remove themselves from the gene pool thereby improving it.

We need to stand aside and stop thwarting natural selection.

Original post was about contaminants that were there that the buyers didn’t know were there. Hence my ice cream analogy. You’re moving the goal post.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
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People who shoot up morphine and fentanyl are fully aware of the dangers.

If they have a supply of it that's free - they won't need to commit any property or violent crime to obtain it. If they shoot up the correct amount, they live. If not, they won't. No different than when they had to scrabble, steal and hustle for their next hit. It would be a good use of my tax money. Those who judge wrong remove themselves from the gene pool thereby improving it.

We need to stand aside and stop thwarting natural selection.

Original post was about contaminants that were there that the buyers didn’t know were there. Hence my ice cream analogy. You’re moving the goal post.

Read the article - take notes as needed. You'll then see I didn't move anything.


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Can we at least laugh at/throw [bleep] at them when we’re driving by them on the street corner holding their cardboard signs? Can we at least agree on that??!!



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Directly from the article:

"When Brennan first started using the drug, she mainlined it into a vein in her neck until it caused a dark sore. Now, she shoots it straight into her muscle, chasing its euphoric effects. “It’s a way more intense sickness than fentanyl. … You feel like you’re literally going to die,” she said. “It’s like a three-hour process—you’re going out, and you’re waking up, and you’re sick.”"

Most of the users they interviewed chose to use this drug intentionally and they know what it does....

After being introduced to tranq by accident, some users in Philly have come to crave and prefer it."


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Can we at least laugh at/throw [bleep] at them when we’re driving by them on the street corner holding their cardboard signs? Can we at least agree on that??!!

Only if we are cool with keying jap rides.


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Originally Posted by Geno67
"When Brennan first started using the drug, she mainlined it into a vein in her neck until it caused a dark sore. Now, she shoots it straight into her muscle, chasing its euphoric effects. “It’s a way more intense sickness than fentanyl. … You feel like you’re literally going to die,” she said. “It’s like a three-hour process—you’re going out, and you’re waking up, and you’re sick.”"

Most of the users they interviewed chose to use this drug intentionally and they know what it does.


Are agreed on denying all future health care to folks that got Covid shots?


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People holding signs aren't committing a crime or harming anyone in any way. I'm completely against throwing things at them.


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I'm not proposing to deny health care to anyone.


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