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I have an older Leupold compact 25x50 for hunting in the field or a window mt straight eye piece . For black powder target shooting to 1000yds it's damn hard to beat the angled eye piece on my Kowa TSN 821 because you need the steadiness of sitting if you expect to see bullet impact at 1000yds....mb


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Originally Posted by mod7rem
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This is always an interesting topic, and comes up every few years. To add a different perspective, I'd be curious about those that prefer one vs. the other in terms of their brain dominance. Ie, are those that are left-brain dominant are more comfortable with a straight tube, and those that are right-brained are more comfortable with angled? I think an angled scope takes a bit more "spacial sense" than a straight tube which is more in line with a right-brain dominant person.

Dunno - just an observation having read these threads for years. And of course, there is no "right" answer to the question of straight vs.. angled. You've got to know that for yourself.

I agree there might be something else to this preference. I’ve owned and used both and I definitely prefer angled in all uses for me, although I never use with a window mount so I can’t comment on that use.

The preference for angled over straight just seems obvious to me, but the opposite is true for others. No right or wrong answer here.
You may be on to something that better makes sense of it.

I'm definitely more right-brained. I'm an artist/craftsman/creative person, and have always had good spacial sense - I'm not an engineer or uber-linear thinker (but very few people are all left or all right brained obviously). I'd always owned a straight spotter, then in 2010 I started working on a remote ranch here in MT that had nothing but angled spotters. I started using them and instantly liked them better, and nothing over the following 2+ years I used them changed that opinion. I still only own a straight tube, but my preference is absolutely angled for 90%+ of what I use a spotter for.


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Over the years from the bench to the mountains and the truck window, I just bring whatever is going to be more productive with the activity. If hard pressed to pick one, it would be the straight spotter. Options are good to have.

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Whacking pigs and aoudad is lots of fun! Near Fluvanna if you know where that is.


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Is that by Covidville?....

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I put together this bino/spotter device. Makes it handy to use by looking through the binoculars, then turn your head to use the angled spotter to look more closely at the animal. The spotter looks at about the exact same location the binoculars is aimed at.

Been using it for 15 years now.

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I reckon angled is viable inside a fence on Blue Bird Days,but we've a thing called "weather" and another called "gravity",which fuels same as a minimum. Hint.

The LAST fhuqking thing I want is a Riflescope,Bino,LRF,Camera Lens or Spotter defaulting to a position to collect water. Hint.

Not that the Pavement Pounding Fair Weather Chronicles ain't a fhuqking HOOT ladies. Hint.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
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blood stains on them jeans?

Whacking pigs and aoudad is lots of fun! Near Fluvanna if you know where that is.

Absolutely! Scurry county-south and a bit west of Post TX-See the sign when we go that way to Dallas from time to time. Pigs everywhere these days! Didn't know about the aoudad though...they eat well? or trophy?

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Pigs and Meskins have taken over texas

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Thanks for all the info. A number of thoughts hadn’t occurred to me. I’m thinking for my primary use, straight is the best option.


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Pigs and Meskins have taken over texas

No pigs just Meskins have taken over Utah

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Thanks for all the info. A number of thoughts hadn’t occurred to me. I’m thinking for my primary use, straight is the best option.

Good choice IMO, just buy the best one you can afford so you don't go through this again down the road.

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Blows my mind how many people "glass" with a spotter.

PS - you're missing lots of stuff....

To be clear, when I said “I do find I have less neck strain when using an angled for long periods” I was referring to staring at a critter for 10 minutes waiting for him to lift his head, or to walk out of the brush, etc.

I can’t think of a single time I have ever looked through my spotter without first seeing something specific that I want to get a better look at.

Brother, you are the man. We all know you should be listened to.

Spotters are for a closer inspection, not for looking.

That has been my experience as well, at least for the type of hunting I do.


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Straight... much faster to get on the object.

For the last several years a huge part of our glassing has been done with Vortex Razor 18x56 bins. great compromise between a bin and a spotter for ease of use and power. It needs a tripod of course. Now I carry two bins and two spotters...

I had a pair of 15x Vortex's that I ended up selling. Found they did not do anything a pair of 10x42's couldn't do, Except take up space and weight. Still ended up setting up the spotter for a closer look. This was for sheep, antelope, and mule deer.

The 15x Vortex, diamondback? (now discontinued IIRC) was not the same grade as the 18x56, nor even close.


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Just a heads up, we have the Kowa TSN-883's and 884's with the TE11WZ 25-60 Wide Eyepiece on sale for only $2,499.99. If you're looking for an alpha quality scope then look no more


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Originally Posted by 4th_point
My preferences are:

Straight for window mount. Straight for shooting, as spotter seated or standing, especially varying target distances.

Angled for spotting from prone (assuming that you can rotate the scope body to allow the shooter to simply switch from riflescope to spotter). Angled for use by different people of various builds and stature, especially standing but the scope body needs to rotate. Angled for long periods of glassing.

I recently sold my last straight scope and went out of my way to buy an angled scope (three actually).

I just spent a week on my first backpack mule deer hunt. It was pretty big country, with fairly big mountains and pretty deep drainages (i.e. looking way up, and way down). I used an angled scope and binoculars on my tripod. My buddy had a straight scope. It was a good opportunity to see if my opinions would change. I normally hunt from a basecamp and view out to moderate ranges. And also do a fair amount of target shooting in the field on the Oregon coast with extremely steep angles.

I still like both, angled and straight. As some others previously mentioned, going from binoculars on the tripod to angled spotting scope is not ideal. So in the heat of the moment, when an animal was located, it took extra time to get back on it with the scope to confirm if it was worth pursuing. Straight scope being quicker.

Also, as Stick mentioned, I have preferred a straight scope when hunting or shooting on the Oregon coast. The ocular is less likely to collect water and can stay surprisingly dry without much effort with the light rain and mist.

I did have the opportunity to observe out to two miles and beyond on this hunt. At those distances, my 8x binoculars were not of much use. At least for deer, but I could certainly spot goats with their white coats on occasion. So it wasn't like I was switching from tripod mounted binoculars to spotting scope in those situations.

At those extreme distances, and spending long periods of time behind the scope, I much preferred the angled scope. Way more comfortable to me, plus I could keep the tripod lower which was helpful in the wind and the high magnification using a light duty tripod and head. I also rotated the angled scope body countless times to fine tune the viewing orientation and essentially expand the viewable area without having to move the tripod or reposition myself. With a straight scope, I would have had to physically reset the tripod, and reposition my body, all those times. Not a deal breaker, but I appreciate less movement and less fiddling especially when whooped from climbing or dropping elevation. Nice to be able to just sit and relax, and "peak around the corners"!

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Only rained a coupla inches here yesterday,but the forecast is stellar. Hint.

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Straight glass does a better job,of defeating wet gravity and only by Light Years. Might be a pun intended. Hint.(grin)

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It was 70 a coupla days ago. Hint.

Reupold if only as per always,fhuqks easy schit up and my MK4 FFP Mil Spotter didn't have an OEM rain shade,so I made one. Now it's Super Fhuqking Custom. Hint. LAUGHING!

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An external frame pack,makes a nice weather shield and a right proper shooting rest. I'll happily take a splayed tripod across my lap,rather than Monkey Fhuqking around. Hint..............


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