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I've tried holographic red dots on my rifles, shotgun and handgun do to vision problems. I like them on my handgun and surprisingly my bow. On rifles and shotguns (for coyote hunting) I have to mount them too high to get a decent cheek weld and have my head bobbing around trying to use them. I can mount a Leupold 1-4 very low and find it a much better option. There are straight tube scopes with illuminated dots also that you can mount low and use just as you would a red dot plus you have the option to turn them up for longer shots.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I had offered my HVA '06 with Leupold 2-7x33 on the classifieds. Had some bites, no takers.

One guy asked if the HVA crest was on the receiver ring. I couldn't remember, so I removed the scope and front base to confirm it was.

Handling this 6# rifle gave me an idea. If I mount a very low, compact red dot sight, thinking maybe a reflex version, this would be a wickedly fast handling '06, about like a high end bird gun.

Question: Given that scenario, what would be the best option?

DF

I have that exact same rifle set up much the same way, and it's a tack driver like yours. Dots don't work well with my astigmatism, but I've used them enough on Glocks and black rifles to understand them even if my proficiency isn't what I'd like.

A peep and a high-visibility front sight can give you much of the same effect for a lot less money, and the stock geometry should be just about perfect. That said, scopes work better than a peep in low light so I'd try a fixed 2.5x or 4x scope.

Also, a six-pound 30-06 will reveal the true value of a good recoil pad like the one on your rifle.


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Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I had offered my HVA '06 with Leupold 2-7x33 on the classifieds. Had some bites, no takers.

One guy asked if the HVA crest was on the receiver ring. I couldn't remember, so I removed the scope and front base to confirm it was.

Handling this 6# rifle gave me an idea. If I mount a very low, compact red dot sight, thinking maybe a reflex version, this would be a wickedly fast handling '06, about like a high end bird gun.

Question: Given that scenario, what would be the best option?

DF

I have that exact same rifle set up much the same way, and it's a tack driver like yours. Dots don't work well with my astigmatism, but I've used them enough on Glocks and black rifles to understand them even if my proficiency isn't what I'd like.

A peep and a high-visibility front sight can give you much of the same effect for a lot less money, and the stock geometry should be just about perfect. That said, scopes work better than a peep in low light so I'd try a fixed 2.5x or 4x scope.

Also, a six-pound 30-06 will reveal the true value of a good recoil pad like the one on your rifle.


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Now that you mention that, I'm currently looking at the Williams WGRS-FN peep sight and a fiberoptic front sight. It's the lowest combo possible, considering the low comb. It's the most streamline option. Receiver sights may entail cutting a notch in the stock, which I'm not wanting to do.

And you're right, a LOT less money.

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Haven't punched a tag with it yet, but this little Holosun on my Mark X 06 is sublime. IMHO

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I had offered my HVA '06 with Leupold 2-7x33 on the classifieds. Had some bites, no takers.

One guy asked if the HVA crest was on the receiver ring. I couldn't remember, so I removed the scope and front base to confirm it was.

Handling this 6# rifle gave me an idea. If I mount a very low, compact red dot sight, thinking maybe a reflex version, this would be a wickedly fast handling '06, about like a high end bird gun.

Question: Given that scenario, what would be the best option?

DF

I have that exact same rifle set up much the same way, and it's a tack driver like yours. Dots don't work well with my astigmatism, but I've used them enough on Glocks and black rifles to understand them even if my proficiency isn't what I'd like.

A peep and a high-visibility front sight can give you much of the same effect for a lot less money, and the stock geometry should be just about perfect. That said, scopes work better than a peep in low light so I'd try a fixed 2.5x or 4x scope.

Also, a six-pound 30-06 will reveal the true value of a good recoil pad like the one on your rifle.


Okie John
Now that you mention that, I'm currently looking at the Williams WGRS-FN peep sight and a fiberoptic front sight. It's the lowest combo possible, considering the low comb. It's the most streamline option. Receiver sights may entail cutting a notch in the stock, which I'm not wanting to do.

And you're right, a LOT less money.

DF

Try the Williams without the aperture that screws into the peep. Just as precise but way faster once you learn to trust it.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Haven't punched a tag with it yet, but this little Holosun on my Mark X 06 is sublime. IMHO

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Now, that's a handy looking set up.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Haven't punched a tag with it yet, but this little Holosun on my Mark X 06 is sublime. IMHO

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Now, that's a handy looking set up.

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I’d planned on a low power variable, but put that on on a whim. It might as well be welded on now. My new favorite rig. Cheek weld with the stock is perfect, close your eyes and shoulder it and the dot is right there. Pushing 200 gr partitions it’ll do anything I need it to.

There is some fisheye to the sight, but seems ok. Proof will be in the pudding.


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
The best option? An Aimpoint Micro.

In the world of red dot optics, there is Aimpoint, then everyone else.

Strong effort, retard.


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Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I had offered my HVA '06 with Leupold 2-7x33 on the classifieds. Had some bites, no takers.

One guy asked if the HVA crest was on the receiver ring. I couldn't remember, so I removed the scope and front base to confirm it was.

Handling this 6# rifle gave me an idea. If I mount a very low, compact red dot sight, thinking maybe a reflex version, this would be a wickedly fast handling '06, about like a high end bird gun.

Question: Given that scenario, what would be the best option?

DF

I have that exact same rifle set up much the same way, and it's a tack driver like yours. Dots don't work well with my astigmatism, but I've used them enough on Glocks and black rifles to understand them even if my proficiency isn't what I'd like.

A peep and a high-visibility front sight can give you much of the same effect for a lot less money, and the stock geometry should be just about perfect. That said, scopes work better than a peep in low light so I'd try a fixed 2.5x or 4x scope.

Also, a six-pound 30-06 will reveal the true value of a good recoil pad like the one on your rifle.


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Now that you mention that, I'm currently looking at the Williams WGRS-FN peep sight and a fiberoptic front sight. It's the lowest combo possible, considering the low comb. It's the most streamline option. Receiver sights may entail cutting a notch in the stock, which I'm not wanting to do.

And you're right, a LOT less money.

DF

Try the Williams without the aperture that screws into the peep. Just as precise but way faster once you learn to trust it.


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I'm familiar with that concept and will definitely try it set up like that. Have done that before and it does work about as well as with a smaller aperture. Your eye picks the center of the hole.

What size front fiberoptic bead would you go with?

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Haven't punched a tag with it yet, but this little Holosun on my Mark X 06 is sublime. IMHO

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DF, I have a Marbles 3/32" FO on my 99 carbine that's very noticeable in the woods when paired with the Redfield peep. It looks a little funky on the Savage but, at least I can see it.


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Originally Posted by erich
On ... shotguns (for coyote hunting) I have to mount them too high to get a decent cheek weld and have my head bobbing around trying to use them.

I have a Romeo 5 mounted high on a short-barreled Mossberg 500 for HD. I haven't hunted with it but I do practice with buck and slugs out to 35 yards and I find that having my cheek NOT welded tight to the comb of the stock keeps it from slapping the bejeezus out of my teeth with 3" shells.

My head may bob around a tad, but as long as I've got the red dot where it needs to be, it's good.

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‘06 won’t kick like a 3” slug.

I’m gonna try the WGRS-FN with orange fiber optic front. May go with the 3/32” suggestion. That combo gives good cheek weld. I do have the Romeo; it’s a back up.

Gonna see how it goes. Will report.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I’d planned on a low power variable, but put that on on a whim. It might as well be welded on now. My new favorite rig. Cheek weld with the stock is perfect, close your eyes and shoulder it and the dot is right there. Pushing 200 gr partitions it’ll do anything I need it to.

There is some fisheye to the sight, but seems ok. Proof will be in the pudding.

It wasn't a whim it was your friend that actually knows what the fugk he's doing telling you to try one on that rifle.

You of course resisted but eventually came around like you always do.

You should have bought a 510 like I told you.

You're welcome.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I’d planned on a low power variable, but put that on on a whim. It might as well be welded on now. My new favorite rig. Cheek weld with the stock is perfect, close your eyes and shoulder it and the dot is right there. Pushing 200 gr partitions it’ll do anything I need it to.

There is some fisheye to the sight, but seems ok. Proof will be in the pudding.

It wasn't a whim it was your friend that actually knows what the fugk he's doing telling you to try one on that rifle.

You of course resisted but eventually came around like you always do.

You should have bought a 510 like I told you.

You're welcome.

I’m gonna wait for Gruff’s ‘analogy’ on why he doesn’t listen to what you ever say.

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I’m gonna wait for Gruff’s ‘analogy’ on why he doesn’t listen to what you ever say.

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"On a whim."

LOL

What an ass hole.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I’d planned on a low power variable, but put that on on a whim. It might as well be welded on now. My new favorite rig. Cheek weld with the stock is perfect, close your eyes and shoulder it and the dot is right there. Pushing 200 gr partitions it’ll do anything I need it to.

There is some fisheye to the sight, but seems ok. Proof will be in the pudding.

It wasn't a whim it was your friend that actually knows what the fugk he's doing telling you to try one on that rifle.

You of course resisted but eventually came around like you always do.

You should have bought a 510 like I told you.

You're welcome.

Let me refresh your memory and set things straight. I told you I was thinking of putting a micro dot like a delta point or fastfire on my manlicker. You thought it a good idea and suggested the 510. I went to the store and finger banged one but thought it too big for what I had in mind. Saw this smaller model and put it on to try out.

End of story,

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Originally Posted by deflave
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I'd take a hard look at the Horosun 510:

https://holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/124.html

I’ve strongly considered the 510 until I found out about the 512 and now found the 530 G. Both are closed emitters so debris won’t block the reticle. Also available with titanium hood to protect the lens. Advantage of the 530G is ~4-5 oz vs 8+ for the 512.

Haven’t tried them yet it plan but to call Holosun to determine level of recoil they’ve tested these 2 models.


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