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Originally Posted by kwg020
Even if the USA had nothing to do with it, we have been branded as the bad guys. This will lead to no where good.

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where has the US done any good in the world the past 60 years?

Which war/invasion was justified?

Why is the US so hated in the world?

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

If, and it's a really big if, the USA blew the pipelines the divers would be specialized mixed gas divers that don't waste training time on CQB or para jumps.

The more you know. wink

Now you are really scaring us, John.

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Originally Posted by Jcubed
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

If, and it's a really big if, the USA blew the pipelines the divers would be specialized mixed gas divers that don't waste training time on CQB or para jumps.

The more you know. wink

The Smart Guys figure the Russians knew gas exports to Europe were done with no chance of returning.

Throw a few pigs with shape charges down the lines and try to blame the USA.

The Putin Pufters are already lapping up the narrative.
Kind of correct...how about a sub? Russians have them too.

USN sub Jimmy Carter

Expain how the USS JC or any nuke sub gets into the Baltic without being spotted.

How does it travel through the Danish Straits without every one knowing the USA is operating a Seawolf in the Baltic and knowing it's the USS JC?

The Baltic Sea is not deep nor big and there is only one way in or out and it's shallow.

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.


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With the quality of the recreational sonars available for a few hundred dollars, there are probably 1000 people in the Cajun navy alone who have the down riggers and sonar to position an object close enough to a 300 foot deep pipeline to bust it with a couple of sticks of dynamite.

This job wouldn't need a Seal team or a submarine or any training to speak of.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

Orcs = Russians?

But why would they do that? Just shut-off the valve and walk away. No muss, no fuss, no publicity.

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Der Speigel is saying that the CIA warned the Germans weeks ago that this was going to happen.

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Originally Posted by SupFoo
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

Orcs = Russians?

But why would they do that? Just shut-off the valve and walk away. No muss, no fuss, no publicity.

The Orcs (Russians) already shut off the flows.

Hard to blame the USA for gas shortages in Europe if the Russians kept the flows shut off.

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.


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Just like the space ghost of Kiev and snake Island and the Russians bombing themselves inside of their nuke plant they are operating






Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

If, and it's a really big if, the USA blew the pipelines the divers would be specialized mixed gas divers that don't waste training time on CQB or para jumps.

The more you know. wink

The Smart Guys figure the Russians knew gas exports to Europe were done with no chance of returning.

Throw a few pigs with shape charges down the lines and try to blame the USA.

The Putin Pufters are already lapping up the narrative.
Kind of correct...how about a sub? Russians have them too.

USN sub Jimmy Carter

Expain how the USS JC or any nuke sub gets into the Baltic without being spotted.

How does it travel through the Danish Straits without every one knowing the USA is operating a Seawolf in the Baltic and knowing it's the USS JC?

The Baltic Sea is not deep nor big and there is only one way in or out and it's shallow.

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

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When did Russia blame the US for this rummy? provide an actual quote




Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by SupFoo
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

Orcs = Russians?

But why would they do that? Just shut-off the valve and walk away. No muss, no fuss, no publicity.

The Orcs (Russians) already shut off the flows.

Hard to blame the USA for gas shortages in Europe if the Russians kept the flows shut off.

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

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Originally Posted by ribka
When did Russia blame the US for this rummy? provide an actual quote

LOL.

Putin Pufter did in the first post of this thread.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by ribka
When did Russia blame the US for this rummy? provide an actual quote

LOL.

Putin Pufter did in the first post of this thread.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.


RIF, it's fundamental and helps with comprehension.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by SupFoo
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

Orcs = Russians?

But why would they do that? Just shut-off the valve and walk away. No muss, no fuss, no publicity.

The Orcs (Russians) already shut off the flows.

Hard to blame the USA for gas shortages in Europe if the Russians kept the flows shut off.

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

If they already shut off the flows, what’s up with all the bubbles?

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Originally Posted by Slope77
If they already shut off the flows, what’s up with all the bubbles?

Static pressure on the lines.

Nord 2 went from over 100 bar to 7 bar. That's a lot of gas in a line that long.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

That Putin is a clever little fellow, eh?

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Does Burnsie get his news straight from Biden or does he lap it up once it's been run through Donnie Lemmon?


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Der Speigel is saying that the CIA warned the Germans weeks ago that this was going to happen.

I hope they were courteous enough to let the Germans pick a time that was convenient for them.

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Originally Posted by SupFoo
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

That Putin is a clever little fellow, eh?

Germany nationalized the Russian gas operations in Germany.

The gas in the lines could have flowed into Germany but with the lines blown all those bubbles are now lost.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Does Burnsie get his news straight from Biden or does he lap it up once it's been run through Donnie Lemmon?

Hot[red phone]line,
Direct to Z himself.


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Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.

I think I read that the pipe was 300 feet and only a very few countries had the means to do this meaning probably the US.

Destabilizing the world as usual

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Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.

I think I read that the pipe was 300 feet and only a very few countries had the means to do this meaning probably the US.

Destabilizing the world as usual

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Ribka is anything but a Russian Bot.


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