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George Wins ... #17643007 09/27/22
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California RickBin OP Campfire Outfitter
OP RickBin Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California	Background and links: G.A. Precision (GAP) rifle in 6.5 PRC Rifle: Defiance Machine Ruckus GA Hunter (XM Length, 20 MOA integral Picatinny rail) Manners Composite Stocks EH1 with adjustable cheekpiece, custom camo (thanks, Tom ) Bartlein Barrels 24-inch #4 Bull, 1-7.75 twist, carbon-wrapped Hawkins Precision bottom metal TriggerTech Diamond trigger Atlas Bipod Model BT46-LW17 Optics: Full weight mode Vortex Optics RAZOR HD Gen II 4-27x56 Burris Optics XTR Signature Rings (34mm) Lightweight Mode Vortex Optics RAZOR HD LHT 3-15x42 Vortex Precision Matched Rings (30mm) Load Development (what's that?): To take full advantage of the Ruckus' 3.1-inch mag length, I had George Gardner at GAP throat this chamber for the Berger Bullets 6.5mm 156-grain EOL Elite Hunter. The fine folks at Berger were very generous in supplying me with bullets. Many thanks. When the rifle arrived, most other components were scarce, but I was able to get my hands on some Hornady brass. The folks at Vihtavuori Smokeless Powders kindly provided some N565 High Energy Powder. And last, but certainly not least, our own shortactionsmoker (Darrik) at Whittaker Guns scrounged up some Federal 210M primers and sent them my way. With hunting season pressing, a quick Satterlee ladder test generated a nice accuracy node at ~2935 ft/sec. I duped the dummy round provided by George for my OAL, loaded up some virgin Hornady brass with some charges bracketing my accuracy node, and hit the range. I guess at this point, pictures are worth thousands of words, so: First day after ladder test, 100-yard groups (.2 grain increments, FWIW). First-day 200-yard group at accuracy node. So, yeah. I was pretty much done with load development. George took all the fun out of it. I took the rifle (in lightweight mode) on a Coues deer hunt with our own GregW, who had all his i's dotted and t's crossed, as usual. Alas, I was too slow getting over to and setting up at a shooting spot before a pretty good Coues deer buck followed the shadows around a knob and out of sight. We passed on a much smaller buck the last afternoon. The rifle remains unblooded. INTERMISSION Sooooo ... now we're getting on to the 2022 season, I actually drew a tag, and lo and behold the fine folks at Lapua got some of their very fine 6.5 PRC brass into my hands. I figured what the heck, George can't lock down ALL load development, so I went to the range Friday with a few goodies to shoot, including a Satterlee ladder test in virgin Lapua brass for the GAP. I set up and ... well, again here's a picture: That's a 6-shot ~2.25-inch group at 300 yards while conducting Satterlee test. So, I tinkered with POI a bit and shot a final group at 300 yards: Sub .5-MOA. George wins. Hopefully, there will be more to come as the season progresses ... Postscript: Things I'd do differently - 1] Really none, because at the time of building, there was no XM-length AICS-based DBM unit available. But, that. 2] Even with a 20 MOA rail, this rifle required heaps more in order to approach the bottom of the big Vortex's elevation travel. So, I'd still opt for the Burris XTRs, but I gotta say, the Burris badging on the 34mm rings is rather loud. 3] It turned out I did not need the adjustable comb/cheekpiece unit on the Manners stock. It doesn't bother me, but I could have done without it. Last edited by RickBin; 09/27/22. "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated." Thomas Paine

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Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643039 09/27/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Originally Posted by RickBin Background and links: G.A. Precision (GAP) rifle in 6.5 PRC Rifle: Defiance Machine Ruckus GA Hunter (XM Length, 20 MOA integral Picatinny rail) Manners Composite Stocks EH1 with adjustable cheekpiece, custom camo (thanks, Tom ) Bartlein Barrels 24-inch #4 Bull, 1-7.75 twist, carbon-wrapped Hawkins Precision bottom metal TriggerTech Diamond trigger Atlas Bipod Model BT46-LW17 Optics: Full weight mode Vortex Optics RAZOR HD Gen II 4-27x56 Burris Optics XTR Signature Rings (34mm) Lightweight Mode Vortex Optics RAZOR HD LHT 3-15x42 Vortex Precision Matched Rings (30mm) Load Development (what's that?): To take full advantage of the Ruckus' 3.1-inch mag length, I had George Gardner at GAP throat this chamber for the Berger Bullets 6.5mm 156-grain EOL Elite Hunter. The fine folks at Berger were very generous in supplying me with bullets. Many thanks. When the rifle arrived, most other components were scarce, but I was able to get my hands on some Hornady brass. The folks at Vihtavuori Smokeless Powders kindly provided some N565 High Energy Powder. And last, but certainly not least, our own shortactionsmoker (Darrik) at Whittaker Guns scrounged up some Federal 210M primers and sent them my way. With hunting season pressing, a quick Satterlee ladder test generated a nice accuracy node at ~2935 ft/sec. I duped the dummy round provided by George for my OAL, loaded up some virgin Hornady brass with some charges bracketing my accuracy node, and hit the range. I guess at this point, pictures are worth thousands of words, so: First day after ladder test, 100- Hundo groups (.2 grain increments, FWIW). First-day 200-hundo group at accuracy node. So, yeah. I was pretty much done with load development. George took all the fun out of it. I took the rifle (in lightweight mode) on a Coues deer hunt with our own GregW, who had all his i's dotted and t's crossed, as usual. Alas, I was too slow getting over to and setting up at a shooting spot before a pretty good Coues deer buck followed the shadows around a knob and out of sight. We passed on a much smaller buck the last afternoon. The rifle remains unblooded. INTERMISSION Sooooo ... now we're getting on to the 2022 season, I actually drew a tag, and lo and behold the fine folks at Lapua got some of their very fine 6.5 PRC brass into my hands. I figured what the heck, George can't lock down ALL load development, so I went to the range Friday with a few goodies to shoot, including a Satterlee ladder test in virgin Lapua brass for the GAP. I set up and ... well, again here's a picture: That's a 6-shot ~2.25-inch group at 300 hundo while conducting Satterlee test. So, I tinkered with POI a bit and shot a final group at 300 Hundo: Sub .5-MOA. George wins. Hopefully, there will be more to come as the season progresses ... Postscript: Things I'd do differently - 1] Really none, because at the time of building, there was no XM-length AICS-based DBM unit available. But, that. 2] Even with a 20 MOA rail, this rifle required heaps more in order to approach the bottom of the big Vortex's elevation travel. So, I'd still opt for the Burris XTRs, but I gotta say, the Burris badging on the 34mm rings is rather loud. 3] It turned out I did not need the adjustable comb/cheekpiece unit on the Manners stock. It doesn't bother me, but I could have done without it. Have no idea who George is? With that when shooting a rifle like you have. One must refer to yards as “hundo” it’s prs talk. I don’t write the rules I just follow them. I edited yo post to reflect that.. Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643078 09/27/22
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,274 406 and 972 R Remsen Campfire Tracker
Remsen Campfire Tracker R Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,274 406 and 972	When you run a forum that has famous [fat, old, blowhard] guys posting and getting 20 billion views, you can afford custom rifles. Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.

Re: George Wins ... Remsen #17643089 09/27/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Originally Posted by Remsen When you run a forum that has famous [fat, old, blowhard] guys posting and getting 20 billion views, you can afford custom rifles. Hey I’m seasonally plump Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... 79S #17643158 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou... kingston Campfire 'Bwana
kingston Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou...	Originally Posted by 79S Have no idea who George is? With that when shooting a rifle like you have. One must refer to yards as “hundo” it’s prs talk. I don’t write the rules I just follow them. I edited yo post to reflect that.. George Gardener of GA Precision. https://www.gaprecision.net/about-ga-precision/meet-the-staff/george-gardner.html Originally Posted by 16penny If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty

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Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643161 09/27/22
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 69,600 Not In The City rockinbbar Campfire Kahuna
rockinbbar Campfire Kahuna Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 69,600 Not In The City	Lotsa work can go into that! Nice rifle! Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643190 09/27/22
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,091 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,091 In the Swamps	Another Loony steps out of the shadows! You and your rifle are a good team! I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643237 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN R renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana
renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN	Nice rifle. Shoots really nice groups. How many rounds have you put thru it so far?? It might not even be hitting it's best potential yet. Hopefully you can kill something with it 👍👍👍 We all love " pics or it never happened" You got some messed up looking fingers and finger nails though. 🥴🥴😄😄😄

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643263 09/27/22
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Wasn’t he a big bushnell guy? Some more vortex for the win!!! Their stock is definitely goin up👊🏻😎 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643328 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou... kingston Campfire 'Bwana
kingston Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou...	GAP still is a big promoter of Bushnell Elite Tactical. They're in the same town and Bushnell is a huge sponsor of PRS. Originally Posted by 16penny If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty

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Re: George Wins ... kingston #17643346 09/27/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Originally Posted by kingston Originally Posted by 79S Have no idea who George is? With that when shooting a rifle like you have. One must refer to yards as “hundo” it’s prs talk. I don’t write the rules I just follow them. I edited yo post to reflect that.. George Gardener of GA Precision. https://www.gaprecision.net/about-ga-precision/meet-the-staff/george-gardner.html Listen man I work at the dump it’s equivalent to a county dump I make $12.62 an hour after taxes and paying medical because I only work 38 1/2 hour work weeks so I don’t get benefits so I have to pay for my own medical insurance which is 600 a month. I bring home $1026 a month $513 bucks every two week. So I’ll never be able to afford GA precision rifle and I will never meet this George Gardner either. I did see a savage axis I wanted it was $219 so I found a lawnmower at the dump and put a little work into it got it running and hung up some signs mowing yards for $20 but one of my first job was a yard that was 2 acres I spent the better part of five hours this is after I got off work mowing this place. After I was done I went to go collect my 20 bucks the lady started yelling through the door to get off her property or she was going to call the state troopers so I got out there. I ended up making about $60 until the lawnmower engine blew up and pushed back to the dump and can you believe it they charged me 30 bucks to dispose of it. So in the end only made $30 dollars. Last edited by 79S; 09/27/22. Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643371 09/27/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Oh don’t forget the white oakleys and monster energy hat… Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... 79S #17643395 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou... kingston Campfire 'Bwana
kingston Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou...	Originally Posted by 79S Originally Posted by kingston Originally Posted by 79S Have no idea who George is? With that when shooting a rifle like you have. One must refer to yards as “hundo” it’s prs talk. I don’t write the rules I just follow them. I edited yo post to reflect that.. George Gardener of GA Precision. https://www.gaprecision.net/about-ga-precision/meet-the-staff/george-gardner.html Listen man I work at the dump it’s equivalent to a county dump I make $12.62 an hour after taxes and paying medical because I only work 38 1/2 hour work weeks so I don’t get benefits so I have to pay for my own medical insurance which is 600 a month. I bring home $1026 a month $513 bucks every two week. So I’ll never be able to afford GA precision rifle and I will never meet this George Gardner either. I did see a savage axis I wanted it was $219 so I found a lawnmower at the dump and put a little work into it got it running and hung up some signs mowing yards for $20 but one of my first job was a yard that was 2 acres I spent the better part of five hours this is after I got off work mowing this place. After I was done I went to go collect my 20 bucks the lady started yelling through the door to get off her property or she was going to call the state troopers so I got out there. I ended up making about $60 until the lawnmower engine blew up and pushed back to the dump and can you believe it they charged me 30 bucks to dispose of it. So in the end only made $30 dollars. Anymore medical insurance is overrated. I'm gonna start a givesendgo campaign to get you a new mower. I'll set the campaign's goal high enough to cover a self propelled model! #WeGotU Originally Posted by 16penny If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643415 09/27/22
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,114 Texas hanco Campfire Savant
hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,114 Texas	Fine shooting

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643423 09/27/22
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,722 Anywhere people are Less Stupi... C CashisKing Campfire Ranger
CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,722 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	That's a nice piece of iron Rick... Congratulations! If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: George Wins ... kingston #17643449 09/27/22
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by kingston GAP still is a big promoter of Bushnell Elite Tactical. They're in the same town and Bushnell is a huge sponsor of PRS. Oh, I’ll sleep better tonight!👊🏻 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643603 09/27/22
Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 6,024 Salmon, Idaho T Tarquin Campfire Tracker
Tarquin Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 6,024 Salmon, Idaho	How much money did you spend to get that kind of "accuracy"? Just curious. Last edited by Tarquin; 09/27/22. Tarquin

Re: George Wins ... Tarquin #17643740 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN R renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana
renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN	Originally Posted by Tarquin How much money did you spend to get that kind of "accuracy"? Just curious. Hey why dont you post up pic of one of your rifles.. Maybe even some of your targets you have shot also... You know... " pics or it never happened" kinda thing.... 👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643766 09/27/22
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,873 M Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter
Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,873	Well Ric, it's a good looking outfit and it shoots nice. If'n them squares are an inch I see sub moa but not sub .5 moa. You gotta be 8snake to do that...mb " Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "

Re: George Wins ... renegade50 #17643781 09/27/22
Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 6,024 Salmon, Idaho T Tarquin Campfire Tracker
Tarquin Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 6,024 Salmon, Idaho	Originally Posted by renegade50 Originally Posted by Tarquin How much money did you spend to get that kind of "accuracy"? Just curious. Hey why dont you post up pic of one of your rifles.. Maybe even some of your targets you have shot also... You know... " pics or it never happened" kinda thing.... 👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL! Had no idea you cared! Tarquin

Re: George Wins ... Magnum_Bob #17643956 09/27/22
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California RickBin OP Campfire Outfitter
OP RickBin Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California	Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob Well Ric, it's a good looking outfit and it shoots nice. If'n them squares are an inch I see sub moa but not sub .5 moa. You gotta be 8snake to do that...mb Ha! Just that last 300-yard group, MB, where my zig canceled out my zag for once. I don't think I can hold .5 MOA anymore. That's what I'm telling myself anyway so I don't burn up components shaving group size here. She'll do ... "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated." Thomas Paine

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643967 09/27/22
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,662 Moon Tree, SC scrooster Campfire Regular
scrooster Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,662 Moon Tree, SC	I'm jealous What you think about, you do ... what you do, you become. In a nation where anything goes ... eventually, everything will. We're almost there.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17643995 09/27/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,903 SE_WI Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter
Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,903 SE_WI	Gotta like a custom rifle mr rick, nice! gonna dynatec bore coat your bbl bore? I put together a vz24/24" addams-bennett 308 win from parts i had on hand. bought the boyds stock, egw base, harris pod and timmny trigger, swfa 10x though. did the dynatec bore, cleans up nice. GOA

Re: George Wins ... Remsen #17644096 09/27/22
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,071 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,071 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Remsen When you run a forum that has famous [fat, old, blowhard] guys posting and getting 20 billion views, you can afford custom rifles. Cha Ching. Nice rifle Rick. But it looks loud. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644129 09/27/22
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,091 Kodiak & AZ D dennisinaz Campfire Outfitter
dennisinaz Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,091 Kodiak & AZ	What tags you got?? NRA Benefactor Member Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Re: George Wins ... 79S #17644145 09/27/22
Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,381 Beaver Oregon N Nestucca Campfire Regular
Nestucca Campfire Regular N Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,381 Beaver Oregon	Originally Posted by 79S Originally Posted by kingston Originally Posted by 79S Have no idea who George is? With that when shooting a rifle like you have. One must refer to yards as “hundo” it’s prs talk. I don’t write the rules I just follow them. I edited yo post to reflect that.. George Gardener of GA Precision. https://www.gaprecision.net/about-ga-precision/meet-the-staff/george-gardner.html Listen man I work at the dump it’s equivalent to a county dump I make $12.62 an hour after taxes and paying medical because I only work 38 1/2 hour work weeks so I don’t get benefits so I have to pay for my own medical insurance which is 600 a month. I bring home $1026 a month $513 bucks every two week. So I’ll never be able to afford GA precision rifle and I will never meet this George Gardner either. I did see a savage axis I wanted it was $219 so I found a lawnmower at the dump and put a little work into it got it running and hung up some signs mowing yards for $20 but one of my first job was a yard that was 2 acres I spent the better part of five hours this is after I got off work mowing this place. After I was done I went to go collect my 20 bucks the lady started yelling through the door to get off her property or she was going to call the state troopers so I got out there. I ended up making about $60 until the lawnmower engine blew up and pushed back to the dump and can you believe it they charged me 30 bucks to dispose of it. So in the end only made $30 dollars. 😂😂😂 priceless entertainment

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644188 09/27/22
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,203 T_Inman Campfire Ranger
T_Inman Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,203	Everytime I remind myself that I'd rather spend money on gas and tags, I end up looking at GAP's webpage. That .22-284 NORMA looks interesting.

Re: George Wins ... T_Inman #17644217 09/27/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Originally Posted by T_Inman Everytime I remind myself that I'd rather spend money on gas and tags, I end up looking at GAP's webpage. That .22-284 NORMA looks interesting. Man me dropping out of high school in 9th grade was not very smart on my part….. But supposedly we are getting a nickel raise next year… Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644329 09/27/22
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,387 Alaska batch Campfire Regular
batch Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,387 Alaska	That is one spiffy rifle! I'm not cheap, I'm frugal.

Re: George Wins ... 79S #17644337 09/27/22
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 45,084 North East Urth Valsdad Campfire 'Bwana
Valsdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 45,084 North East Urth	Originally Posted by 79S Originally Posted by T_Inman Everytime I remind myself that I'd rather spend money on gas and tags, I end up looking at GAP's webpage. That .22-284 NORMA looks interesting. Man me dropping out of high school in 9th grade was not very smart on my part….. But supposedly we are getting a nickel raise next year… I think I'll contribute some to that fund Kingston is starting for you. But only if that self propelled job he wants to get you has at least a 20" cut. We want you to finish them yards faster to maximize our return on investment in your favor. The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni) member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644338 09/27/22
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 45,084 North East Urth Valsdad Campfire 'Bwana
Valsdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 45,084 North East Urth	Good stuff Mr Bin, thanks. The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni) member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644415 09/28/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,517 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,517 Bozeman, MT	Are you bringing that rifle to Montana this fall?

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644447 09/28/22
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,873 M Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter
Magnum_Bob Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 8,873	Originally Posted by RickBin Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob Well Ric, it's a good looking outfit and it shoots nice. If'n them squares are an inch I see sub moa but not sub .5 moa. You gotta be 8snake to do that...mb Ha! Just that last 300-yard group, MB, where my zig canceled out my zag for once. I don't think I can hold .5 MOA anymore. That's what I'm telling myself anyway so I don't burn up components shaving group size here. She'll do ... Ric your right of course, it is a very good looking outfit and shoots as good as it looks.. more than a few years ago I loaded some guns and ammo into my old Toyota in early April of that year to drive north too Glasgow Mt.. I attended the Icebreaker ll LR shoot Scenarshooter put on. As well as getting to meet Scenar and crew I met Montana Marine , defave , Billy goat gruff and the GAP crew. George is quite the guy and a great shot. His guns seem flawless. Were more than a few GAP shooters there and they don't miss much. Congrats on a fine rifle.mb " Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644481 09/28/22
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,308 Wyoming F frogman43 Campfire Outfitter
frogman43 Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,308 Wyoming	Good looking rifle there, Rick! I hope you enjoy many successful seasons with it! I've decided to go hunting with my son in Michigan this Fall for Whitetails......going to carry that .41 mag FA 97, hoping to take a nice fat doe with it! Frog---OUT! ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644682 09/28/22
Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 3,723 O Osky Campfire Tracker
Osky Campfire Tracker O Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 3,723	Looks plenty potent and you run it well Rick. Enjoy the hunts. Osky A woman's heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth and I can find no sign on it.

Re: George Wins ... Tarquin #17644866 09/28/22
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN R renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana
renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,017 Clarksville, TN	Originally Posted by Tarquin Originally Posted by renegade50 Originally Posted by Tarquin How much money did you spend to get that kind of "accuracy"? Just curious. Hey why dont you post up pic of one of your rifles.. Maybe even some of your targets you have shot also... You know... " pics or it never happened" kinda thing.... 👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL! Had no idea you cared! Sooooo... You wanta bust Bins chops with your snarky schitt in quotations and about cost. But ain't got a picture of squat you have when your chops get busted huh??? Go figure.... "Pics or it never happened". Is always KRYPTONITE to turds with eyes like you.... 🤣🤣🤣

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17644944 09/28/22
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5,168 Middle Georgia T TrueGrit Campfire Tracker
TrueGrit Campfire Tracker T Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5,168 Middle Georgia	As long as your happy that's all that matters. Life is good live it while you can.

Re: George Wins ... TrueGrit #17644953 09/28/22
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,974 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana
Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 38,974 Flyover Country	Originally Posted by TrueGrit As long as your happy that's all that matters. I'd be very happy with 6-shot ~2.25-inch groups at 300 yards. Reminder, 6 shots, not 3 like so many like to do. Me

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17645051 09/28/22
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,274 406 and 972 R Remsen Campfire Tracker
Remsen Campfire Tracker R Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,274 406 and 972	My original response was a bit snarky and I don't want to imply that GA Precision's rifles are in any way connected to certain blowhards here. I have two of George's rifles, including this one (243 Ackley). I know, most of a rifle's performance is a result of the shooter, but GA Precision rifles help even a hack like me. An old friend who I often hunted antelope with in Wyoming always gave me cr*p over the custom rifle until he made a mess of one with 7 shots over the course of a half hour with his bone stock Remington. I had already tagged out (two goats, two shots at 400+ yards) and handed him this rifle and told him it would make a difference. He scoffed, then he filled his tag with one shot at over 300 yards and stopped ragging on custom rifles after that. Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.

Re: George Wins ... Remsen #17645372 09/28/22
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger
79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash	Originally Posted by Remsen My original response was a bit snarky and I don't want to imply that GA Precision's rifles are in any way connected to certain blowhards here. I have two of George's rifles, including this one (243 Ackley). I know, most of a rifle's performance is a result of the shooter, but GA Precision rifles help even a hack like me. An old friend who I often hunted antelope with in Wyoming always gave me cr*p over the custom rifle until he made a mess of one with 7 shots over the course of a half hour with his bone stock Remington. I had already tagged out (two goats, two shots at 400+ yards) and handed him this rifle and told him it would make a difference. He scoffed, then he filled his tag with one shot at over 300 yards and stopped ragging on custom rifles after that. Damn and you are wearing Levi’s! Lucky! all I can afford are Kirkland brand pants. Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17645378 09/28/22
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,172 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,172 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	What is the rifle’s first assignment? If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: George Wins ... ironbender #17645593 09/28/22
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California RickBin OP Campfire Outfitter
OP RickBin Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 11,304 Los Angeles, California	Originally Posted by ironbender What is the rifle’s first assignment? Supposed to be an Arizona Coues deer, but I was too slow ... Gonna hafta be a Montana whitetail (unless a mondo muley shows up first). I would shoot it for a local deer, but I don't want to re-zero it for lead-free ... "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated." Thomas Paine

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17645814 09/28/22
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,172 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,172 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	😎 If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17646806 09/28/22
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,300 NW MT Stormin_Norman Campfire Outfitter
Stormin_Norman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,300 NW MT	Originally Posted by RickBin Originally Posted by ironbender What is the rifle’s first assignment? Supposed to be an Arizona Coues deer, but I was too slow ... Gonna hafta be a Montana whitetail (unless a mondo muley shows up first). I would shoot it for a local deer, but I don't want to re-zero it for lead-free ... There are hardly any whitetail in MT ;D , lots of wolves though. "Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid" John Wayne

Re: George Wins ... Magnum_Bob #17647457 09/28/22
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 32,074 Kenai Peninsula, AK L las Campfire 'Bwana
las Campfire 'Bwana L Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 32,074 Kenai Peninsula, AK	Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob Well Ric, it's a good looking outfit and it shoots nice. If'n them squares are an inch I see sub moa but not sub .5 moa. You gotta be 8snake to do that...mb Personally, I only count the holes I like. Sometimes it's only one. Not saying any of you do that.... Last edited by las; 09/28/22. The only true cost of having a dog is its death.

Re: George Wins ... RickBin #17647496 09/28/22
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 25,507 Valhalla SE AK & WA A AcesNeights Campfire Ranger
AcesNeights Campfire Ranger A Joined: May 2008 Posts: 25,507 Valhalla SE AK & WA	Originally Posted by RickBin Originally Posted by ironbender What is the rifle’s first assignment? Supposed to be an Arizona Coues deer, but I was too slow ... Gonna hafta be a Montana whitetail (unless a mondo muley shows up first). I would shoot it for a local deer, but I don't want to re-zero it for lead-free ... Why not use “lead free” monos for everything? The TSX or TTSX has been extremely accurate for me and it doesn’t bounce off deer or elk, in fact they have never even required a follow up shot. If you don’t like those there’s a lot of choices with countless makers producing lead-free. If it’s boutique you desire then Hammer bullets might suffice….for the raised-pinky, ascot-wearing crowd anyway. 😁. With a rifle like that I’d want to hunt it as much as I could. 👍 That’s a beautiful build and it looks like it’s going to serve you well. I might’ve missed it but what are the weights of the rifle in lightweight and heavyweight configurations? �Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr. --------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

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