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Is it better to have no cop than a bad cop? Being in California, how is the average person supposed to exercise their right to defend themselves. What a mess.

Wonder how many law enforcement agencies at all levels have similar test results.



OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The Alameda County Sheriff's Office in Northern California has stripped 47 deputies — 10% of the force — of their guns and arrest powers because they failed psychological exams, it was reported Monday.

It was “horrible'' to have to relieve the deputies of their duties, sheriff's spokesman Lt. Ray Kelly told KTVU-TV.

The station obtained a copy of a letter notifying the deputies of their change of status last Friday. The deputies will still receive their pay and benefits.

The move came after the Sheriff's Office conducted an internal audit of deputies' psychological examinations from January 2016 to the present.

The letter from Sheriff Gregory Ahern notified a deputy — whose name was blacked out in the copy — that the deputy had been graded “D. Not Suited" in a psychological evaluation and under state law couldn't serve as a peace officer.

The letter said the Sheriff's Office had previously been operating under incorrect advice received several years ago from the California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, which said it could hire candidates who received such a rating.

Ahern said the deputy can be hired if a second examination declares him or her “suitable" and the office intends to schedule an appointment for such an exam.

“Our intention is to resolve this issue as quickly as possible," Ahern wrote. “We also intend to have you return to full duty status once you obtain a ‘Suitable' finding."

Kelly said he hoped that the retests would occur in the next two months. The tests will be conducted by a psychologist who doesn't work for the sheriff, he said.

Kelly said the audit followed the arrest earlier this month of former Deputy Devin Williams Jr., 24. He is charged with shooting and killed a couple in their Dublin, Calif. home on Sept. 7.

His mother, Anitra Williams, told KTVU-TV that her son had been in a romantic relationship with Maria Tran and he believed she was unmarried.

The station said four sources said Williams had failed his psychological exam, although Kelly previously said Williams, who was hired in September 2021, had passed all psychological tests.

The Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, an Oakland nonprofit that deals with race and criminal justice issues, accused the Sheriff's Office of previously turning a “blind eye" to the problem of unsuited deputies.

“This further highlights the egregious levels of dysfunction and corruption that have plagued the sheriff’s office for years," the center's organizing director Jose Bernal, said in a statement.

Kelly said the department has been under “enormous pressure" to hire more deputies and it was hard to find people for the tough job.

“I know that people are going to assume that all these deputies are killers,” Kelly said. “But that’s not true. This test tries to find out if you are psychologically suitable for the job, to handle all the horrible things we see. At the age of 22, sometimes you’re not. I know this isn’t good. But it’s not as bad as it sounds.”

Gotta think failing a California "psychological exam" might not be a bad thing....

Kind of what I was thinking. The headline might should read
Cops fail to pass liberal test..

It would be interesting to know what the psych evaluation entailed. Some companies that market tests and assessments hard sell police departments and state agencies, who tend to look for quick and easy and cheap. Some are decent to good, and some are crap. There are standards, but they are not always followed.

I once received a report from a psych evaluation of an employee in which the psychiatrist said "He's just an azzhole". True story.

You gotta be nuts to want to be a cop, especially in Ca.

Good

They are culling the right leaning officers.

I’m sure FL would be glad to hire those LEO’s who failed the CA “Woke test”. TX probably, too.

I’d be more suspicious of those who passed.

DF

You're probably some kind of a right wing extremist if you say men can't get pregnant.

For sure.

After all, what is a woman? Left can’t seem to answer a pretty basic question. “Birthing person”?

They’ve gone completely nuts.

DF

The tests are completely arbitrary, based on the individual Psych doctor who interprets the results. Just like the phony polygraph aka "lie detector" tests. Poly tests are about as reliable as a hamster reading your palm and telling you what your future will hold.

Bingo! One department up here would send people to the psych doctor this was the last step, pass this and you were hired. This Psych doctor failed up to 30 candidates a month. Majority of the time it wasn’t because of your psych it was because he didn’t like they way you looked, dressed, talked etc. The department finally found someone else/organization to do the psych evaluation. My psych test with the new organization out of Seattle was 10 minutes long Wizard asked some questions asked what my rank was in the Army when I told her the exam ended soon after. When I asked people how long their psych exam was and they say hour 2 hours I’m like oh boy most of the time they failed. I tell people don’t go off into the weeds. That’s what they are trying to do, hey you off in the weeds. Once they do that you are ph ucked.

Just liking guns and shooting will cause you to fail one of those exams.

I wouldn’t doubt it.

All a polygraph does is record a physical reaction to what should be a "yes/no" question and compare that reaction against a control question and its reaction.

You don't really beat the machine, it doesn't say anything other than what your body did when you answered a question.

At least when I had mine - that's how the examiner explained it to me. You never beat the machine, it's a measurement device. You beat bad questions/examiners.

I do wonder how society would be were we to simply do away with all law enforcement and let the citizens handle things themselves...

Yeah, they failed the "Woke Test".

Dess: I passed a series of pysch tests and background checks many years ago so i could be haired as a police officer in a first class city. I retired 29 years later.
Knowing what I know now about the rabid lunacy that is kalifornicationkopia, I would be PROUD to have "failed" that schitholes "pysch tests"!
Fugg kalifornicationkopia and all the politicians and pyschos therein.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Question 1 - If you come upon a black man robbing a convenience store, you:

A). Give him a bag of chips
B). Arrest the white cashier because he’s racist
C). Let him go because he’s oppressed
D). All of the above

What kind of Psych test exactly? It's not that these deputies are brain stupid. What more do they need.

Only 10% of the force, they need to reevaluate there own testing platform.