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Putin’s long term gas strategy lies in The Power Of Siberia gas pipeline that is tying into China and is presently at the Chinese border.

Putin knows that his ass has just about been fried with Europe needing Russian gas.

Of course with a regime change in Russia those pipelines can be easily and quickly repaired allowing Europe the option of taking Russian gas again.

Nice. A teaming of the Biden Twats.

Dutch nailed the level of difficulty of the attack. A few guys in a fishing boat, 100 yards of line, a large fishing magnet, GPS, etc etc.. So anyone could have done it.

I also expect that the damage is relatively easily repaired. If Putin did do it, he didn't pay much to create discord and distrust among us.

This is stupid. The US did it. There is no question. We haven’t even denied it really.

Here is a prediction. Just like with the Muscova, there will be a leak in couple of weeks where we tacitly admit that we did it or provided intelligence and support to those who did.

One hundred percent guarantee.

And by the way, there was nothing meant to be covert about this. This was done as a way of sending a message. This was Michael Corleone shooting the rival mobster and the police chief in a crowded restaurant.

We can do this and there isn’t [bleep] you can do about it. It was a message to both the Russians and the Euros.

I have a feeling this was not a random act intended to look like an accident. I have a feeling the WEF/UN/NWO was involved in making this happen. Their intent is a one world government best achieved by destroying the most technologically advanced countries of which Europe is several. They are taking full advantage of the Russia/Ukraine skuffle to destroy other nations.

How does someone get a ton of explosives down to 300 feet in the middle of a sea in a row boat in heavy currents, set up the explosives so that the blast will be directed and concentrated to rupture the reinforced pipe and blow up a steel and concrete pipelines in three areas?


So you just row out, hook the pipe line at 300 feet with a anchor and drop down the explosives with fishing weights and light a fuse? lol


Where can one just purchase a few tons of explosives that can be used effectively at 300 feet under water on the commercial market and not be detected?

The blast does not need to be focused or directed. A timer that delays the explosion for as much as a week is trivial to make. The estimates I've seen called for 250 pounds of explosives, not that difficult to make and deploy. It just doesn't sound especially difficult to carry out.

I don't think they literally mean that, but a commercial vessel with a crane on it wouldn't have any problem.
Add a sonar to watch the device and position it and you have all you need. You can see fish with a $100 consumer fish finder. I don't think the military would have any problem using gear they have available.

Its easy to blow up large things in deep water?

What type of explosives would you use?

where would you purchase a ton of explosives?

What type of fuse and detonator?

How would you set up the explosives in 300 feet of water in heavy currents in the middle of a sea so the blast is not dissipated ?

would this require divers or an underwater vehicle?

how would a large commercial vessel get the area unprotected? Obviously that area would be subject to tracking and satellite surveillance. And yes satellites now can track in overcast skies and heavy cloud cover.


Only a few organization have this capabilities. A large commercial oil operation ( op sec would be a real issue of course) would or a military.

Who would gain the most?

If you haven't noticed, there is a war going on in Ukraine with large quantities of explosives readily available. Failing that ANFO is cheap and easy to make Nobody but you is proposing to use a rowboat. A long timer is trivial to make. They have new inventions now called rope and magnets that make it easier to lower the explosives and attach them to the pipeline.

Another assumption I see is common is that whoever placed the charges had to hide their activities.

I’d have no idea who may have done this….. but, here is some speculation:


I tend to agree that this operation need not be considered a “advanced technology” only action. The depth is not great, the amount…..weight of explosive required is not great…. Couple hundred kilos of some sort of HE. Finding the pipelines is easy…. Dragging a mechanism…. Maybe an anchor… to catch or even be in close proximity to the pipeline does not seem to be too difficult. The mechanism could be a simple as a large collar or trapping mechanism lowered over the pipeline….IDK.

A timing mechanism seems simple.

What about the satellites? Couldn’t they “see” the boat actually doing the deed? Perhaps, perhaps not. Give a redneck crew some tech help and a large tug boat… or even a trawler….and then perhaps not. It would not look much different from the other hundred boats crossing the area. Could the bad boat be picked out? If it could be identified, would one think it not already disposed of and sunk?

Further, most articles discussing this start out with the assumption that precludes any bad actor that does not have very advanced underwater skills. This may be simple misdirection to preclude a potential bad actor or to simply point an accusing finger in a certain direction.

If one discards the simplifying assumption that advanced technological excellence is required, the field of potential bad actors opens up. Who else would benefit….. but more importantly, why would they benefit?

IDK….. this is just speculation.

You would use anfo for underwater demolition? How does moisture affect ammonium nitrate?

What type of booster would you use?

The outer pipe line is encased in concrete. How would magnets work under water on concrete?

Why not ANFO? Moisture is irrelevant if you have a sealed container.

Magnets work just fine underwater. The pipeline is steel with a concrete shell.

Why are you so hellbent on making the technical problem more difficult than it really is?

lol

Using anfo for under water demolition

why not a gunny sack full of m 80's?

magnets work on concrete? How thick is the concrete? Why would they use magnets on concrete?

Sure hope it was not us..........

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guess again.

Sending another 1.5 BILLION in aid to Ukraine today.

Every thing this US Biden admin does is to destabilize and reset the world order.

One more thought…. If a clever person has done the deed, might he not have purposely left some false evidence behind to point the finger somewhere else?

A failed explosive mechanism? Either near the site or even hundreds of feet away?

IDK….