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I don't care if a dog is running deer I won't shoot them for that. In fact it's illegal to do so here. Very rarely will a dog catch a deer or run it to exhaustion or death.. You can legally shoot them for harassing or killing livestock. Several years ago there were 3 dogs frequenting my place that killed every fawn born that year. To understand the problem I would have to show you an aerial photo or take you for a ride around. There are 70 acres adjoining me that has about 7 or 8 trailer houses of black folks that have dogs which used to run amok, they were bad dogs. One of the 3 dogs was a big solid black and I have never seen a dog that could chase a deer that fast. He had 2 white dog companions almost as fast that would come in behind him. One day after carrying my rifle all day looking for him to show up I finally climbed up in a box stand at about 4:30 to try for a deer. A doe came streaking through at top speed, then the black dog so fast I couldn't get a shot. I had been trying to get a shot on him for a month after getting lots of pictures and finding several half eaten fawns. I called the state trapper for advice. He told be to set a big Conibear body grip trap with the trigger on bottom and to tie some red raw meat to the trigger which is what I did, and I had him the next morning dead as a hammer. Then I caught one of the white ones and the other was put into captivity by the owners. As for that Husky the girl killed. They are bad dogs out in the country also. My neighbor to the north had 2 calves killed by a mama Husky/Pit hybrid and her 4 big pups about 8 to 10 months old. He made the mistake of complaining to the keeper of the dogs and was rebuffed. He went and climbed up in a nearby box blind and when they returned he shot the mama dog first and then shot all 4 of the young dogs. Dogs will certainly kill deer and calves. I think for the most part we have convinced the black folks their dogs ain't comin' home if they come our way. We bought our place with our own money to raise cattle and hunt not to provide entertainment and beef and venison for bad dogs. I've seen dogs chase deer dozens of times. Only once did one of my coon hounds catch up to a doe. When he did she apparently landed a good kick as he yelped and came running back with his tail between his legs. I've witnessed beagles chasing deer many times and watched the deer circle and wait, watching and listening until the dogs caught up before taking off again. The dogs never caught up and eventually give up the chase. I know dogs will occasionally catch and kill deer but it's rare. Mostly happens on deep crusted snow which I doubt you get much of in the South. It's funny you have so many feral dogs/packs running around down there. We rarely have them here. Strays yes, ferals no. Coyotes kill far more fawns than dogs do around here but there's always been plenty of deer. Blackheart, a fawn is not the same as a deer. A dog can run a fawn down in a couple of minutes. I don't plant 50+ acres for the wildlife twice a year, feed 25+ tons of corn and allow no one to walk in the woods so dogs can chase the deer off my property. It ain't going to happen no matter what the law says or people think. Dogs chase em off they'll be back within a day. Radio collar studies conducted by DEC proved this. The deer don't belong to me, not even when they're on my property. They're wild animals that belong to the State and I sure don't have a need or obligation to feed or protect them. I just hunt them when in season.
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That's what Conrad needs, more panache. Panache is an excellent attribute. I likes em with syrup. I rest my case.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Fugg these people in the fugging neck.
I am over having to apologize for every fugging thing the antis or the left doesn't like.
Before long you will have to pixelate a dead animal.
Oh no....the eyes popped out of the coyote you shot in the head?
Can't post it!
Oh no! You blew the brains out the ass of that gophers?
That's gonna look bad for us!
Oh no! You canoed that does head with a 110 grain BTip out of your 300 win mag?
You bastard!
You janers think there is a limit to what someone finds offensive? Nope.
What about the time we were killing our bunnies and Young Daniel chased his mom around with a still beating rabbit heart?
#canceled
Head to an art museum if this shìt bothers you. I agree 100%. I follow the law and I do my best to not gut shoot or wound an animal so that it suffers. But as a wise man once said, "frogsnacks!!!" When you're hunting an animal you're trying to perforate the damn thing with an expanding rifle bullet, and it ain't gonna always be pretty. And don't get me started on "respect for the animal."
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Nope, wouldn't live in a place like that. Would you live in a low lying area and not have flood insurance?
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I live in a high lying area. You can't believe a word they say out here.
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Fugg these people in the fugging neck.
I am over having to apologize for every fugging thing the antis or the left doesn't like.
Before long you will have to pixelate a dead animal.
Oh no....the eyes popped out of the coyote you shot in the head?
Can't post it!
Oh no! You blew the brains out the ass of that gophers?
That's gonna look bad for us!
Oh no! You canoed that does head with a 110 grain BTip out of your 300 win mag?
You bastard!
You janers think there is a limit to what someone finds offensive? Nope.
What about the time we were killing our bunnies and Young Daniel chased his mom around with a still beating rabbit heart?
#canceled
Head to an art museum if this shìt bothers you. Did you post a video of that? I wish I had been there to see that. Even better than handing mom a glass of water with a hopfrog in it!
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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That's what Conrad needs, more panache. Panache is an excellent attribute. I likes em with syrup. I rest my case. Smokepole. where's your panache? Jim has posted pics of himself in that yard with his red longhandles on and a cheap beer in his hand. Can't get much more "panachey" than that.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I live in a high lying area. You can't believe a word they say out here. Are you channeling your inner 5sdad?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Dogs chase em off they'll be back within a day. Radio collar studies conducted by DEC proved this. The deer don't belong to me, not even when they're on my property. They're wild animals that belong to the State and I sure don't have a need or obligation to feed or protect them. I just hunt them when in season. Surely you don't have a problem with those who not only hunt game but protect it on their private property do you? You know, plant food plots, keep dogs and poachers out, raise way more game than they ever take? What about folks that give a dirt nap to killer dogs and wolves? This whole discussion began because a girl was hunting in wolf country and killed a Husky that does in fact resemble a wolf, especially to a young hunter that had no reason to believe a domestic dog would be in the wilds of Montana. Do you own livestock? I don't have that many but $100,000+ is a very significant amount of money to my family. We raised every cow we have from baby calves and our kids and grand children would like to have a few deer to hunt. I seldom shoot anything anymore except targets, hogs, and predators.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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My neighbors Rottweiler came over and killed my 11 year old daughter's 4H show goats that she had put a lot of work into. This happened about 2 weeks before the fair. They wouldn't pay and I never got the chance to kill the dog. A couple of years later their dogs were killing our chickens one day when I wasn't home. My daughter took her .243 out there and shot them with the neighbor lady watching, but she swore she saw me do it. Attagirl.
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It's fully legal to kill trespassing dogs on private property, especially when there's a threat to livestock or humans. Not sure about public lands, but that was a .... bad call. Obviously into the "huntress" vibe. Oooops. Whoever dumped them needs to be found and prosecuted.
Up hills slow,
Down hills fast
Tonnage first and
Safety last.
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Word is the sheriffs office is getting 20-30 calls a day from Karens all over the country demanding Justice
Lmao
MAGA
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I live in a high lying area. You can't believe a word they say out here. Are you channeling your inner 5sdad? Wondering if it was the legal weed or the elevation.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I live in a high lying area. You can't believe a word they say out here. Are you channeling your inner 5sdad? Wondering if it was the legal weed or the elevation. Both???
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I live in a high lying area. You can't believe a word they say out here. Are you channeling your inner 5sdad? Wondering if it was the legal weed or the elevation. Both??? Could be, you know how those high lying types are!
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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That thing would have been in egg drop soup in China years ago but nobody gives a schitt about that.
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Word is the sheriffs office is getting 20-30 calls a day from Karens all over the country demanding Justice
Lmao It's gotta be a riot for the locals.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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Dogs chase em off they'll be back within a day. Radio collar studies conducted by DEC proved this. The deer don't belong to me, not even when they're on my property. They're wild animals that belong to the State and I sure don't have a need or obligation to feed or protect them. I just hunt them when in season. Surely you don't have a problem with those who not only hunt game but protect it on their private property do you? You know, plant food plots, keep dogs and poachers out, raise way more game than they ever take? What about folks that give a dirt nap to killer dogs and wolves? This whole discussion began because a girl was hunting in wolf country and killed a Husky that does in fact resemble a wolf, especially to a young hunter that had no reason to believe a domestic dog would be in the wilds of Montana. Do you own livestock? I don't have that many but $100,000+ is a very significant amount of money to my family. We raised every cow we have from baby calves and our kids and grand children would like to have a few deer to hunt. I seldom shoot anything anymore except targets, hogs, and predators. I don't have a problem with shooting dogs to protect livestock or people if and when it's legit. I do have a problem with pathetic ass holes who shoot every loose dog they see under the guise and assumption of protecting deer/game because it's generally bullshyt from those who just want to kill something. Feeding deer is illegal here so yeah, I'd have a problem with someone doing that too. You feeding deer is your business if it's legal in your locale. I can hunt all over and am rather good at it so would have no need to feed/bait in an effort to keep them on any particular piece of ground even if it were legal.
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Word is the sheriffs office is getting 20-30 calls a day from Karens all over the country demanding Justice
Lmao It's gotta be a riot for the locals. Justice for Juicy!
I am MAGA.
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