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I am looking for some advice on the best bullet weight for a Tikka 22-250 with a 1:8 twist. I have quite a few 55 grain bullets. I know I could try them and see if they shoot accurately. Just hoping someone could enlighten me with what has worked for them, with this barrel twist. Thanks, Mark
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77 TMK's or SMK's work well. "Best" is entirely subjective. Use what works..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The Hornie 88 ELD is THE Pinnacle,in said rifle/chambering/RPM and 3000fps a breeze. None of which is subjective. Hint. It tosses a .545 BC,flies obviously fhuqking exceptionally and is a literal hammer,as Terminal Effects go. Hint. Said platform,is one of very few fhuqking things,that Teeker gets mechanically right. Hint. Understand that Beezer likes to talk out her ass and guess a lot. She's STILL trying to stuff 108's. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
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73, and 75 grain ELD Hornadys...
75 BTHP is a great bullet for accuracy along with the 80 grain A Maxes in my rifles...
the 68 grain BTHP Hornady is also a real accurate bullet in my 22.250 with the fast twist..
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I use 62 grain Bear Claws for pigs, but don’t shoot over 250 yds and have a bunch of them to use up.
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75 gr Speer Gold Dots shoot well and stay together. They don't have the BC of ELDs but they're stout. A max load of RL-16 and you're there.
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Like Stick mentioned, the 88eld is about as good as it gets. Especially if you want to shoot larger varmints or deer/pigs. It's very accurate and kills way above it's pay grade.. It's been very dependable for me on quite a number of animals. Been using it in a 8'' Bart chambered in a .22 Creed.
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Thanks all. Now to try and find some.
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77 TMK for killing anything
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You CLUELESS Fhuqktards are a Hoot! Hint. The 77gr Sugar has a HILARIOUS .420 BC,while the 88 nets .545. HINT. Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
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75 gr Speer Gold Dots shoot well and stay together. They don't have the BC of ELDs but they're stout. A max load of RL-16 and you're there. I like the 75 gr Gold Dot a lot, just wish I could find some more I’m almost out.
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I have quite a few 55 grain bullets. I know I could try them and see if they shoot accurately. It depends upon what you mean by "best". There's no reason the 55 grainers won't shoot just fine from an 8 twist, I've shot a gazillion 55 grainers out of my two 8 twist 22-250's. The heavier bullets will buck the wind better and give better long range performance but there's no reason to think they'll shoot any more accurately than the 55's. Overstabilization is a myth.
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I have quite a few 55 grain bullets. I know I could try them and see if they shoot accurately. It depends upon what you mean by "best". There's no reason the 55 grainers won't shoot just fine from an 8 twist, I've shot a gazillion 55 grainers out of my two 8 twist 22-250's. The heavier bullets will buck the wind better and give better long range performance but there's no reason to think they'll shoot any more accurately than the 55's. Overstabilization is a myth. But bullet integrity is not. There are many thin jacketed 55 grain bullets that could deform due to being spun too fast and loose accuracy. Of course there are certain bullets that take being spun hard without issues.
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I have quite a few 55 grain bullets. I know I could try them and see if they shoot accurately. It depends upon what you mean by "best". There's no reason the 55 grainers won't shoot just fine from an 8 twist, I've shot a gazillion 55 grainers out of my two 8 twist 22-250's. The heavier bullets will buck the wind better and give better long range performance but there's no reason to think they'll shoot any more accurately than the 55's. Overstabilization is a myth. But bullet integrity is not. There are many thin jacketed 55 grain bullets that could deform due to being spun too fast and loose accuracy. Of course there are certain bullets that take being spun hard without issues. I guess the op can try them and see how they do. I don't know why he asks what people think are the "best", but then says he has a barrel full of 55's. I don't shoot 55's in anything, but that is just me. The lightest match bullet I'd sling in that rifle is the 69 SMK. Next step up would be the 73 ELD match and then the 77 TMK or SMK.. If none of those shot ragged hole groups, I'd be a little concerned.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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80gr eld-m (Bryan Litz tested this bullet truce bc is .505) I used the .505 bc out to 1k and it’s held true. Next would be the 88 Eld-M .545 bc hold true to 1k as well. You could throw the Berger 80.5 into the mix very good 600yd bullet. The 75 eld-m is a good one as well.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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All this is important if you have access to a range that long. Most of us are lucky to get to shoot past 500 yards at an actual target range.
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All this is important if you have access to a range that long. Most of us are lucky to get to shoot past 500 yards at an actual target range. Oh… in that case 77 sierras either flavor and 75gr hornady bthp. 73gr eld-m that one pushed to 3200 plus will make it all the way to a 1k still supersonic 77 tmk/smk will too as long as you get them up 3200 fps.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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80gr eld-m (Bryan Litz tested this bullet truce bc is .505) I used the .505 bc out to 1k and it’s held true. Next would be the 88 Eld-M .545 bc hold true to 1k as well. You could throw the Berger 80.5 into the mix very good 600yd bullet. The 75 eld-m is a good one as well. And the 88 stabilizes in the 1 in 8" twist? Personally, I wouldn't ever shoot an 80 in a 9 twist for anything I valued. I wouldn't go to a match with that combo, I wouldn't even drive 20 minutes to the club to try it. Yes, I've read about 1 or 2 guys getting away with it, but that is not the norm. 77s are hinky enough in a 9.
An 8 is good enough for the 75, but I would never even bother trying the 88 in an 8. The slowest twist I'd bother to try is a 7 with the 88. Oh, ok. That is what I thought.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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80gr eld-m (Bryan Litz tested this bullet truce bc is .505) I used the .505 bc out to 1k and it’s held true. Next would be the 88 Eld-M .545 bc hold true to 1k as well. You could throw the Berger 80.5 into the mix very good 600yd bullet. The 75 eld-m is a good one as well. And the 88 stabilizes in the 1 in 8" twist? Personally, I wouldn't ever shoot an 80 in a 9 twist for anything I valued. I wouldn't go to a match with that combo, I wouldn't even drive 20 minutes to the club to try it. Yes, I've read about 1 or 2 guys getting away with it, but that is not the norm. 77s are hinky enough in a 9.
An 8 is good enough for the 75, but I would never even bother trying the 88 in an 8. The slowest twist I'd bother to try is a 7 with the 88. Oh, ok. That is what I thought. My bud in Idaho shoots 90 smk out of his 1-8 twist 22-250. Says they shoot fine, so you never know.. if I listened to half the people on this forum I be shooting a 30-30… with see thru mounts..
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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80gr eld-m (Bryan Litz tested this bullet truce bc is .505) I used the .505 bc out to 1k and it’s held true. Next would be the 88 Eld-M .545 bc hold true to 1k as well. You could throw the Berger 80.5 into the mix very good 600yd bullet. The 75 eld-m is a good one as well. And the 88 stabilizes in the 1 in 8" twist? Yes, but they're not "super stable," meaning you're giving up a little bit of BC compared to the advertised value. Litz has done some testing of BC versus SG, and his results suggest a loss of about 3% BC for every 0.1 in SG below 1.5. At sea level and 32 F, pushing the 88 ELD to 3000 fps, JBM says SG is 1.289 from an 8" twist. Using Litz' results, BC would be about 6% lower than the .545 advertised G1 value, or about 0.512. Using a 7" twist will keep SG above 1.5 at sea level down to about -20 F.
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