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Or naysayers?
I'm talking about the modern Browning semi-automatic rifle, not the bad-ass military BAR.
I'm considering getting one in .243, 7mm-08 or .270. Does anyone know if there is any difference in dimensions between the short-action (.243 and 7mm-08) and long action (.270, .30-06, etc)? The Browning website doesn't show any difference in dimensions or weight, but y'all know how websites are....

The rifle will be used primarily for southeastern whitetail deer. Help me pick a caliber.😊

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Of all the Browning rifles I’ve always had a love affair with the BAR in all of its iterations. My love for the civilian BAR harkens back to its big daddy..the military BAR of WWII. My buddy hunted with a BAR in .300win mag and loved it…well, he loved it when he remembered to bring the magazine for it, he didn’t like his accidental single shot BAR as much as he liked the semi auto version. 😁

They’re a little heavy imho but they are still a good semi auto for hunting.


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I have one in 243 I received from my dad 40 years ago. its ok, trigger on it is terrible

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I've got the bar hells canyon model. I haven't gotten around to firing it yet but I think I'm going to love it. I will take some pictures of it. Mine is 308. I went with the semi because the know on the bolt whacks my nub where my finger used to be and it doesn't tickle

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Brother-In-Law had an 06. He's a fan. I had a Win 100. The clip took some work on the Winnie to get it feed consistently. Never an issue on the BAR. Going from memory here, but I believe the BAR had a shorter action for the 243/308 models back in the 60's (Belgian). Now I'm thinking they're all the same with the longer action.


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Growing up in the 80’s their were two rifle that set you apart from everyone else that was a browning BAR or weatherby mk v.


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Speaking of the MKIIs or whatever the big steel ones were called, no experience with the new short and long trac models.

But for the old ones my experience is they’re heavy, have horrible triggers, and so so reliability.

“Mine has always been flawless”, we’ll hear from someone soon. Well, I worked in a Browning service shop for a good while and they are not all flawless. They’re overly complicated too IMO, and sometimes issues can be hard to diagnose.

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I have never owned one but have hunted with people that had them and have watched people sight them in. And all of them I have seen shot good groups and functioned well. I almost bought one once. Bought a Benelli R1 instead. It shoots good as well. I like it because you can take it apart without tools. It functions well too. Bars are probably more accurate.

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Only Browning rifle I ever liked was my Belgian.22 auto. I just got rid of it. If I still had the farm and went walking out back with a light, open sighted.22 I’d have kept it, but…

A couple friends have had the BAR’s over the years, a 7 RM and a .30-06 that I can recall specifically. I always felt they were over-sized and awkward; maybe it’s just the styling I don’t like.

I feel the same about the BLR. My brother has a couple of those as do a couple friends. I’ve had to work on them. Overly complicated and delicate mechanisms IMHO. They do shoot well.

All those newer Browning rifles look to me like something designed by an interior decorator who doesn’t hunt.


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I bought a new bar in 308 a couple months back. It shoots good, fits me well and has a pretty decent trigger. I like the looks of the older ones/Safaris better, but like the weight savings the mk3 offers. I don't know if the long action weighs any more than the short action. I just looked at the specs like you did.


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I had a 7 mag years ago. It was OK.

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From what I understand, Browning brought in the BOSS system to improve accuracy specifically for the BAR model.

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My buddy has one in 300 win, his dad has one in 30-06, another guy in our group has one in 270 all Safari's another guy that hunts with us bought. A new one last year in 30-06, all see to shoot well. I'd like a Safari in 243 some day!


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The 308, 7mm 08, and the 243 are shorter actions. The 270 will be longer action and thus heavier. I had a 308 BLR that my son has now and loved it. Very accurate. Had to clean with a snake so I wouldn't have to take the lever and bolt out. It has to be on the exact gear to close properly if you take it apart. A long time ago I had one in 3006. Wasn't that heavy, but longer than the shorter actions.

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Yep , Belguim made .
30/06 , the only BAR I have owned .
This one never jammed and shot better than a lot of bolt guns .
Growing up hunting with bubba military guns , the BAR trigger was no problem to manage .
Estate 150 gr , blue box 180’s ,and core lokt 220 gr shot exceptionally well in it .
So well reloading was pointless as it was a hunting rifle , not a target gun .
My mag swung open .
Wanted one for years , but culling of the collection became a priority and was one of the chosen .
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I have owned several, 06,7mag and 300 win and they all shot very well. They are on the heavy side but accurate. Probably the softest recoiling 300 I have ever shot.

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Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Or naysayers?
I'm talking about the modern Browning semi-automatic rifle, not the bad-ass military BAR.
I'm considering getting one in .243, 7mm-08 or .270. Does anyone know if there is any difference in dimensions between the short-action (.243 and 7mm-08) and long action (.270, .30-06, etc)? The Browning website doesn't show any difference in dimensions or weight, but y'all know how websites are....

The rifle will be used primarily for southeastern whitetail deer. Help me pick a caliber.😊

.30-06. 180Gr SGK RN. Probably over 4064.



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If I find the right MK 3 on sale I'll grab it.

I think they're cool. In theory.


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I had 2, the first was a 300 win mag (late 80’s early 90’s). The second one was the MKII Safari with the BOSS chambered in 30-06.

The 06 would shoot 3 shot cloverleaf groups. 165 Hornandy BTSP’s.

When I was in high school, it was a holy grail to me.

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