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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Like I said, I am supporting neither Russia nor Ukraine, just asking why some people are treating a country that collaborated with Nazis and has a long history of corruption as though they are saints. Both sides stink. It’s good to see Israel remaining unaligned. Like you said, you support neither. Not one person here said that either side was clean or saintly but thanks for your unaligned opinion.
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Like I said, I am supporting neither Russia nor Ukraine, just asking why some people are treating a country that collaborated with Nazis and has a long history of corruption as though they are saints. Both sides stink. It’s good to see Israel remaining unaligned. Like you said, you support neither. Not one person here said that either side was clean or saintly but thanks for your unaligned opinion. Thanks for bumping up the post count, Mrs Burns!
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There are double standards with lives of some worth great deal more than others. The US government (along with Britain and Russia) gave certain assurances to Ukrainians when they gave up their nuclear arsenal. You need to help them to keep your credibility in tact. Russia is the aggressor and British guarantees never guaranteed anything meaning all falls on the taxpayers of United States.
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There are double standards with lives of some worth great deal more than others. The US government (along with Britain and Russia) gave certain assurances to Ukrainians when they gave up their nuclear arsenal. You need to help them to keep your credibility in tact. Russia is the aggressor and British guarantees never guaranteed anything meaning all falls on the taxpayers of United States. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Why the confusion with USSR vs Russia. Not the same gov. leaders. It appears that the Russian leadership today is attempting to bring back the leadership before the USSR. I'll see your 5 million Ukrainians and raise you 60 million White Russians murdered by the Bolsheviks and changing Mother Russia to the USSR [with the help of the US].
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Like I said, I am supporting neither Russia nor Ukraine, just asking why some people are treating a country that collaborated with Nazis and has a long history of corruption as though they are saints. Both sides stink. It’s good to see Israel remaining unaligned. Like you said, you support neither. Not one person here said that either side was clean or saintly but thanks for your unaligned opinion. Thanks for bumping up the post count, Mrs Burns! You are more than welcome , Jew Lawyer. You ever settle those child support issues?
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There are double standards with lives of some worth great deal more than others. The US government (along with Britain and Russia) gave certain assurances to Ukrainians when they gave up their nuclear arsenal. You need to help them to keep your credibility in tact. Russia is the aggressor and British guarantees never guaranteed anything meaning all falls on the taxpayers of United States. LOL What LOL? Does anyone give a sh.t about what Germans did to Gypsies during World War II?
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I won't get into the 24HCF bickering about which of those two countries is worse. The money sent to the Ukrainians could have and should have been spent securing our southern border. Our wall would be finished, with change left over, and our invasion would have ceased. Holy crap!!! There’s no denying that. You ain’t wrong.
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What LOL? Does anyone give a sh.t about what Germans did to Gypsies during World War II? I know I don't. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I won't get into the 24HCF bickering about which of those two countries is worse. The money sent to the Ukrainians could have and should have been spent securing our southern border. Our wall would be finished, with change left over, and our invasion would have ceased. Holy crap!!! There’s no denying that. You ain’t wrong. STFU you sniveling kghunt.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My Polish/Russian wife grew up in a heavily ethnic, Eastern European neighborhood in Toronto,....mostly Polish, but also Russian, Ukrainian, Moldovan, ect.
Anybody there who was Ukranian kept it to themselves. There was plenty of good people there with Ukranian heritage. But they arrived with the knowledge that it wasn't a good thing to advertise it. They never got over that way of thinking.
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Hey Houston, Did you and Duck911 discover how to survive Covid yet? You fugking clam.
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My Polish/Russian wife grew up in a heavily ethnic, Eastern European neighborhood in Toronto,....mostly Polish, but also Russian Ukrainian, Moldovan, ect.
Anybody there who was Ukranian kept it to themselves. There was plenty of good people there with Ukranian heritage. But they arrive with the knowledge that it wasn't a good thing to advertise it. They never got over that way of thinking. All those euro-trash fugks keep their lineage to themselves when it's convenient. That's what makes them euro-trash.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Why the confusion with USSR vs Russia. Not the same gov. leaders. It appears that the Russian leadership today is attempting to bring back the leadership before the USSR. I'll see your 5 million Ukrainians and raise you 60 million White Russians murdered by the Bolsheviks and changing Mother Russia to the USSR [with the help of the US]. How many "Russians" did the Czars "murder"?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.
We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.
By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes. Lol. Except the Ukraine still employ the same Baderite NAZIs today slaughtering Ethnic Russians as the one 80’s years ago that rounded up Jews for slaughter. Funny how facts get in the way of revisionist history
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My Polish/Russian wife grew up in a heavily ethnic, Eastern European neighborhood in Toronto,....mostly Polish, but also Russian Ukrainian, Moldovan, ect.
Anybody there who was Ukranian kept it to themselves. There was plenty of good people there with Ukranian heritage. But they arrive with the knowledge that it wasn't a good thing to advertise it. They never got over that way of thinking. All those euro-trash fugks keep their lineage to themselves when it's convenient. That's what makes them euro-trash. It is not Euro-trash. The correct term is European-American, American of European descent, Canadian-European,......
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If I was in Ukraine the last thing I would want was to be under Soviet control. I’d make any deal with the devil I could to avoid it. Ukraine has a long history of hating Russia and Russia has a long history of tormenting Ukraine. Nice to see Putin getting his schitt pushed in. I also enjoy seeing dead Russians, dead frozen Russians are the best though.
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My Polish/Russian wife grew up in a heavily ethnic, Eastern European neighborhood in Toronto,....mostly Polish, but also Russian Ukrainian, Moldovan, ect.
Anybody there who was Ukranian kept it to themselves. There was plenty of good people there with Ukranian heritage. But they arrive with the knowledge that it wasn't a good thing to advertise it. They never got over that way of thinking. All those euro-trash fugks keep their lineage to themselves when it's convenient. That's what makes them euro-trash. It is not Euro-trash. The correct term is European-American, American of European descent, Canadian-European,...... Only American. No need to include old word schitholes.
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If I was in Ukraine the last thing I would want was to be under Soviet control. I’d make any deal with the devil I could to avoid it. Ukraine has a long history of hating Russia and Russia has a long history of tormenting Ukraine. Nice to see Putin getting his schitt pushed in. I also enjoy seeing dead Russians, dead frozen Russians are the best though. That is the spirit. Who cares if they call themselves:. Azov, SS Galicien,........ Come to think red/black color combo is not harsh to my eyes.
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