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Not ideal I know, but that is my most likely shot angle this year. I'm pretty well sky lined from that angle and the chances of being seen are too great to wait for a full broadside. Scoped 7mm-08, 140 BT's and about 75 yards.


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Treestand or on the ground? I’ll assume treestand with your skyline comment, but there’s places on the ridge I hunt where I’m skylined with feet on the ground. I’d shoot for a third of the way down on the deer, just in front of, or just behind front shoulder. Either of those should wreck enough important stuff with a 140 BT.

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A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.


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One of my FAVORITE shots on Critters. You get to break a front and rear axle,skewing vitals along the way. PERFECT! Hint.

No thanks on a 140 NBT for anything. Hint.............


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Originally Posted by Doc_Holidude
Treestand or on the ground? I’ll assume treestand with your skyline comment, but there’s places on the ridge I hunt where I’m skylined with feet on the ground. I’d shoot for a third of the way down on the deer, just in front of, or just behind front shoulder. Either of those should wreck enough important stuff with a 140 BT.

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Doc, 20' up in a tamarack tree, but I do think that behind the leading shoulder shot would get liver and gut and a mess from a quartering to angle. I took that shot once in fading light with my crossbow on what I thought was a broadside short coupled fawn of the year, but it was a mature doe at an angle toward me. Toughest tracking job that I'd ever had for hundreds of yards.

Stick, Agreed that a BT is a bit soft for a shoulder, but losing a trophy buck to a TSX was all I needed to experience to switch to faster opening BT's.


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A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.
That's if quartering away, not towards.


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A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.
That's if quartering away, not towards.

Wrong. It works an all angles. In order for the bullet to hit the far shoulder it has to go through the heart/lung area. Try it. It works.


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Neck/shoulder junction. Will break spine and be an instant kill.


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Maybe 7 o'clock on my dot, maybe the dot. Somewhere right there will work fine. No steps will be taken and if any are his nose will be in the dirt with his ass pushing him about 10 yards max.

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A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.
That's if quartering away, not towards.

Wrong. It works an all angles. In order for the bullet to hit the far shoulder it has to go through the heart/lung area. Try it. It works.
If you aim for far shoulder on a quartering to animal your bullet will be to the off side of the vitals. To center em you will want to aim at the neck/shoulder junction of the shoulder towards you.

No reason to worry about heart/lungs. Take out the CNS and it's lights out.

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Originally Posted by MAC
A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.
+1 Good advice.

My rule of thumb is to aim where you want the bullet to exit on the far side.

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A good rule of thumb is to place the bullet so it will hit the far shoulder if the animal isn't directly broadside. That ensure you get the vitals. That trick was taught to me by a PH in Africa and it has held true in my experience. It isn't high tech and it isn't fancy but it is effective.
+1 Good advice.

My rule of thumb is to aim where you want the bullet to exit on the far side.
So aiming for opposing shoulder will get vitals??
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Be lucky if it even goes to the inside of the bone on the opposite shoulder, a good chance of bullet turning and may catch a little neck meat and blow meat from outside of shoulder. Far from a lethal shot. Aim for the bullet to exit behind ribs if you want to catch center of vitals.

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Aim for opposite shoulder here and see where it gets you. Will work fine if you go high enough and break spine.

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Put it right in his shirt pocket. Right to the inboard side of the nearest shoulder, just like 10ga’s first picture.

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Too far to the left..

Only saving grace to that shot might be that the NBT flies apart and gets some lung. A sturdy bullet will likely just tear a bunch of meat out and now you've got a runner.

Farther right and a whisker lower for me.


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Too far to the left..

Only saving grace to that shot might be that the NBT flies apart and gets some lung. A sturdy bullet will likely just tear a bunch of meat out and now you've got a runner.

Farther right and a whisker lower for me.
Just like my statement says except go up for my preference. CNS immobilized.


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Too far to the left..

Only saving grace to that shot might be that the NBT flies apart and gets some lung. A sturdy bullet will likely just tear a bunch of meat out and now you've got a runner.

Farther right and a whisker lower for me.
Just like my statement says except go up for my preference. CNS immobilized.

Either or, for up or down. Yep. But DEFINITELY come right another 1/4 of the deer's width.

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Point of shoulder…..exit the ham! If you’re using bullets that will not fragment! memtb

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