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673;
Thanks for the reply.

Yes for sure on all counts to what you've said.

We need a thumb's up button here..

Have a good one.

Dwayne

673,
I think the absence of fire is a big part of it here in the southern Rockies and have argued as much.
Here in the southern Rockies it is the "shoulder season" habitat that is the most decadent and in need of fire. The pinions, junipers, sage, quakies, and oak brush constitute that spring and fall (and sometimes the rest of the year) habitat.

Prior to the Taylor Grazing Act being passed by Congress in 1934 livestock grazing on public lands was a free-for-all. When livestock numbers were significantly reduced (encouraged by the Dust Bowl years) there was am explosion of new growth and within a decade or so muley populations began a exponential growth that lasted through the 60's.

The Uncompahgre Plateau has a lot of uranium. From the 1940's into the 60's the feds and military flew phot transects looking for potential uranium deposits.

In the 90's the Colorado Division of Wildlife (now known as Colorado Park and Wildlife) re-flew some of those same photo transects on the sides of the plateau. Where once there were large openings of sage the PJ has grown in to reduce those openings to a fraction of their size 40-50 years before. The Gambels oak is now tall, decadent, and much thicker than it was previously.

Gambels oak is considered one of the most nutritious wildlife foods in North America. Not just the acorns but the leaders on the new growth is very important to muleys (which are primarily browsers).

In the 90's a good friend of mine, a wildlife biologist who retired early from CPW (he couldn't stand the politics) was the facilitator for a very ambitious habitat improvement project on that shoulder season habitat. It involved the USFS, BLM, NPS, state, county and city governments, and private NGO"s. Funding was becoming available and they were a year from getting started.

Then came the Los Alamos controlled burn.

The burn instantly got out of control and burned part of the town. That shut down the Uncompahgre project and has made controlled burns almost impossible in the west. In the intervening 30 years the infestation of Lifestyle Immigrants moving into the Rocky Mountains and building their yuppie version of the Ponderosa Ranch has made the chances of ever restoring habitat through controlled burns even less likely.

So now we just get to wait for out-of-control burns. That's fine by me except for the part where I have to listen to the Lifestyle Immigrants and their risky lifestyle choices whine and cry every time their trophy home burns down............

I would call the overall environmental "management" in BC simply appalling and with 70 years of actual bush experience here, including time working with the BCFS and F&W. plus the CCG, I speak from sad experience. The Campbell, Clark and Horgan administrations have been despicable in their actions in this respect.

So.......... on the handguns, handguns are bad and dangerous, yet, the drugs and those who peddle them don't show up on his or anyone's radar?

The number of dead People in my nearest large community is overwhelming...gun violence, is almost non existent, the ones doing gun violence are the drug People anyways LOL.

To think this isn't a "made for agenda" tool makes for a really dumbed down populace. I have no idea how they get away with it, the fugging NDP office near me hasn't seen a key in the door for almost a year now.
#chickenshits.

The immigrant vote is your answer, I do believe.

Also the brain dead

Agreed!

So self defense is illegal in Canada.
Wait for schitbird to stab or shoot you and you're then allowed to tickle them till they stop killing you.

Steve is clueless, self-defense is permitted, each case is reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Been there Done that not once, but twice!

I should add that firearms were not involved in my cases, bare hands, both plaintiffs when to the hospital. I walked both times. You better have witnesses though!

With a firearm in your home against the intruder, you would definitely be going to court, depending on the circumstances, you could walk as well.

Cheers ~ Darren

Wont be long and all guns will be banned in socialist Canada.... end of hunting.... its coming.

I am just very happy that I do not own any handguns, or any restricted firearms!

The way things are going and from what I have seen in Alberta, compared to 20 years ago, almost everything is posted now and getting permission is time consuming, annoying and also quite expensive. I am very happy I am older, and my hunting years are winding down.

I Feel sorry for the kids that want to hunt these days.

SKSs will be next along with all other semis. What about 10-22s and other semi 22s?

Wow!….. I knew you were a loser but I didn’t realize you were as pathetic as you truly are.

Congratulations on being the only person here in the history of the campfire to take issue with Dwayne. Easily the politest and most agreeable individual here and a man who would always be welcome in my camp or in my home and I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that most of the guys here feel the same way. Dwayne has everyone’s respect while you most certainly don’t!

If you’re representative of what’s produced in “the East” then I can’t fault anyone for disassociating themselves from you and your “eastern” mentality. You are a personification of the eastern personality and an excellent argument FOR western autonomy.

You’ve done much to show your true personality these past few years but if you have to attack Dwayne then you’ve obviously sunk to new lows.

yeah, in the case of Justin TruDeau, grandson to Inspector Cluseau, He'll first make Butter Illegal, the a butter knife...
So the typical non Liberal Canadian, with just say He doesn't use butter, he uses Margarine, and since there is no such a time as a Margarine Knife, that would be okay.....

With ALL the Buses in Canada, are you telling me that he just can't get hit by one of them???

Nice "Spot on" post!

B*I*N*G*O

Sadly, this is about right.
Some of my best friends have been and are from the east, it took them awhile to realize that hunting/shooting is a lifestyle many of us lead, but....the last 3 people (customers) I have met were from Ontario, they were all recent arrivals to BC, they all were against hunting/guns, and wouldn't stfu, I simply fired them and don't waste anymore time with them.

A brief study into Canada's history will reveal a desire to separate west from east, or at least a form of Autonomy, near as I can figure that is what the proposed "Sovereignty act" in Alberta is all about. It is also what Native Canada wanted in Riel and friends, autonomy, not a dictatorship, sound familiar?
Our Provincial leaders have been pretty lispy in dealing with Ottawa.

Sovereignty...this is what Quebec has been doing all along, now another Province want's the same, that is why I said in the other thread....I think we are heading for a Constitutional showdown over Jurisdiction/autonomy on guns, education, resources etc...

673;
Good morning my friend, I see your light is on and hope your night was better than mine in terms of sleep!

We went for our morning walk and I was going to go look for a whitetail spike, but it started raining and the woodstove and the coffee just beckoned too much. It's warm here too again - if it was snowing up top I'd head out but I doubt it.

For sure I'm in agreement with your take on what's going on in Alberta now, in that they want in at Quebec's table. It's ironic that it's taken any of the other provinces this long to do that, but good for Alberta for doing so I say.

When I read about Riel's second attempt, it appears that even then there was considerable support for his cause among the farming community in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, but less so with the ranching community in Alberta. Now I think we could look at who owned the bigger ranches and what that all meant too though.

I laughed when I read your description of our provincial leaders being, "pretty lispy" - with your permission I'd like to use that should the occasion arise. Quite descriptive and funny - well done!

All the best to you all up there and good luck on your hunts.

Dwayne

Dwayne
I am gearing up for another weekend of hunting too, going out with the boy for another scouting for a Bull Moose which opens tuesday for us.
This weekend I am going to try and get a Mule deer for myself, the boy got a 4 point a couple weeks ago.

Trudeau has taken Canada to a defining moment, once again. I don't think his gun bans are going to fly.

"I simply fired them and don't waste anymore time with them."

LOL!

I was born and raised in Quebec and grew up during the FLQ Crisis. I escaped in 1987 and moved out west, it was by far the single best decision I have ever made in my life! My only regret in my life is that I didn't pull the pin and moved out west as soon as I turned 18.

The week I left the Government was holding another referendum/vote on whether Quebec should separate, I voted YES for the separation vote, to do my best to get them out of Canada lol.

Here is an interesting fact:

When Quebec started their talk about Separation, all of the major companies left Montreal and moved their head officed to Toronto and Ontario. I was at a party in Toronto with a bunch of French people that were working for these large companies like Proctor and Gamble, as an example.

I was surprised at all of the Quebecers at this party and asked them why they left Quebec and were in Toronto. It turned out that all of these francophones were highly educated and were all recruited by these large companies after they graduated from university, so they had no option since all of the major corporations with their high paying jobs all left Quebec and went to Ontario.

What I discovered that evening is that by pushing their separation agenda, not only did Quebec lose billions in tax revenues, but they also experienced a serious "Brain Drain" with all of their top talent and highly educated youth moving to Toronto! How stupid is that?

Now Montreal is in disrepair with bridges falling down, the city is nowhere near as glamorous as it used to be. Also, the hunting SUCKS THE BIG ONE in Quebec and the only thing I miss is the Fly Fishing for Atlantic Salmon around the Gaspé Peninsula. These days I go to Prince Rupert and Terrace to fish for Salmon, Halibut and Cod. I do still miss eating Atlantic Salmon as they are way tastier than Chinook and Coho, because of their fat content.

I used to miss Montreal's Pizza and Strip Clubs, as the best Pizza's I have ever had were made at restaurants in Montreal, but I learned how to make them just as good at home, and I got married so I was banned from strip clubs lol.

One morning of fishing off the coast of Prince Rubert, I caught all of those fish myself, hard to beat!