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Anyone here familiar with this cartridge? Parent case? Case forming info? Any information would be appreciated?
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Kaywoodie
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I've owned a number of them in doubles and drillings. You would do well to do a look over on AccurateReloading.com. it is not a BP cartridge, although there are a couple BP precursors. It is a good heavy hitter for game. Brass, bullets and load data are readily available. It is more of a parent case. Get out the Google machine, and crank the handle, lots of info out there. Bfly
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Thanks blackfly. Been working the google. Will check them out at AR
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Cartridge verified as 9.5x47R. Dies will be here this Fall. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/s2DBj57N/ECE3-E73-E-657-B-4-D47-AD64-185-A24-E9-AA3-A.jpg)
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A 45-70 or 348 case will work if you add a very thin spacer in the extractor to make up for the thinner rim on the two American brass. Huntington's lists brass, btw. Buffalo also has brass: https://www.buffaloarms.com/9-5x47r-cases-bertram-formed-b-ber9-5x47r.htmlhttps://www.huntingtons.com/product-tag/9-5x47r/This drilling shoots a 10X47R. I make brass from trimmed 348 brass and a 41 Mag pistol die set. It shoots 40 S&W .401 cast bullets. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/mcxc6Fi.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/p0euQR6.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ZrzD8cA.jpg)
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If it's anything like the 10.4x38 Swiss, 10.4 x42, or 10.4 x 47 Italian I understand that 8mm Lebel brass is a better fit for the rim thickness. The .348 brass works for the Vetterli (and I get excellent accuracy) but the extractor will fall off the case if it isn't ejected briskly. The Lebel brass is supposed to be closer to the correct thickness. I have some Lebel brass but have not turned it into 10.4 Vetterli yet.
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If it's anything like the 10.4x38 Swiss, 10.4 x42, or 10.4 x 47 Italian I understand that 8mm Lebel brass is a better fit for the rim thickness. The .348 brass works for the Vetterli (and I get excellent accuracy) but the extractor will fall off the case if it isn't ejected briskly. The Lebel brass is supposed to be closer to the correct thickness. I have some Lebel brass but have not turned it into 10.4 Vetterli yet. Had some old Syrian M1914 Hotchkiss trays of 8mm Lebel. So I disected one thinking the same thing. Better off buying the Bertram brass I believe. But thanks for the intel!
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Bob is there a story about this old rifle? I'm thinking there is! If not make one up!
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Bob is there a story about this old rifle? I'm thinking there is! If not make one up! Compadre, I don’t have a clue. Found it on a site and bought it. Seen another almost the twin of this one on another site and it was like three times as much! 🤣🤣🤣. But that latter site is notorious for their proud pricing of things! 🤣. I plan on this old piece creating it’s own stories! More to come!!!
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Sounds like a plan. Happy Hunting with it!
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What is the exact bullet diameter in inches to 3 decimal places?..mb
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What is the exact bullet diameter in inches to 3 decimal places?..mb Bullet is .374" with a .379" stop ring I need to slug bore again. I sent old slug and chamber casting to C&H tool
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