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Is there a Lee Collet Neck Die work-around for the 6.5 PRC?


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Here’s my data

I'd be trying the RL26 and H1000, personally. I'm sure you guys will find a great load. Keep us posted. How's that 162gr ELDX prospect going with your 7mm08? Getting 2" groups at 500 yards yet? I saw your other 500 yard group you posted at 500 with your 150gr load. Looked like about a 6" group. Not happy huh?


Less than 5” at 500 yards, I’m okay with that. Plus I suck at doping the wind so the lateral dispersion is on me.

And keep in mind the 6.5 PRC is my brother’s. I’m happy with the Mighty -08.






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Same here. I’ll take 5” at 500 all day long and be happy, especially shooting prone without rests and other stuff I wouldn’t have on the mountain.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Here’s my data

I'd be trying the RL26 and H1000, personally. I'm sure you guys will find a great load. Keep us posted. How's that 162gr ELDX prospect going with your 7mm08? Getting 2" groups at 500 yards yet? I saw your other 500 yard group you posted at 500 with your 150gr load. Looked like about a 6" group. Not happy huh?


Less than 5” at 500 yards, I’m okay with that. Plus I suck at doping the wind so the lateral dispersion is on me.

And keep in mind the 6.5 PRC is my brother’s. I’m happy with the Mighty -08.






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Same here. I’ll take 5” at 500 all day long and be happy, especially shooting prone without rests and other stuff I wouldn’t have on the mountain.

Shooting off a pack makes it easy.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
My 7mm-08 will do everything I need it to do at the distances within my skill level. P

You and I agree on this. I just acquired a new 6.5 PRC and so far in my very limited loading, I can't see that it will do anything I can't do with a 7-08. I will be keeping up with your posts for info and see how this works out for you.


Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I'm just starting playing with a 6.5 PRC Christensen Arms Mesa. I had some 143 edlx, but currently alliant magnum powder is the only suitable powder available around here. No problem with 3100 fps on my 24"

Norman, I'd be interested in your load data. I'm still in the break-in period with my Mesa, but so far it seems to be a little slow. I shot some factory Norma 143 ammo and the groups are steadily getting better (0.8 moa for 5 shots on Friday). Box says 2950? fps, but I'm getting just shy of 2800 with a 24" barrel.

I also ran some limited testing with 140 AB and Magnum powder. Found a very large velocity node at 2915-2925 fps and got sticky bolt lift at about 3015 fps. I had to load the Accubonds quite short due to throat length. Probably gonna try some other bullets for now. If 2925fps is all that I can do, I'll just stick with my 7-08.

I found some H1000 last week, so I may try it, but I'll give the Magnum a fair shake first as it should be faster across the board. I loaded some 120 TTSX this weekend and hope to shoot them soon. Just playing around for now with whatever I have on hand.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Here’s my data

I'd be trying the RL26 and H1000, personally. I'm sure you guys will find a great load. Keep us posted. How's that 162gr ELDX prospect going with your 7mm08? Getting 2" groups at 500 yards yet? I saw your other 500 yard group you posted at 500 with your 150gr load. Looked like about a 6" group. Not happy huh?


Less than 5” at 500 yards, I’m okay with that. Plus I suck at doping the wind so the lateral dispersion is on me.

And keep in mind the 6.5 PRC is my brother’s. I’m happy with the Mighty -08.






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Ok, steel plate targets are misleading sometimes. Not like paper, which I prefer. The group looked big to me. But then again, this is a group shot at 400 yards with a 223 AR, and it looks "big" to me as well. Plate is 3" diameter:
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
My 7mm-08 will do everything I need it to do at the distances within my skill level. P

You and I agree on this. I just acquired a new 6.5 PRC and so far in my very limited loading, I can't see that it will do anything I can't do with a 7-08. I will be keeping up with your posts for info and see how this works out for you.


Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I'm just starting playing with a 6.5 PRC Christensen Arms Mesa. I had some 143 edlx, but currently alliant magnum powder is the only suitable powder available around here. No problem with 3100 fps on my 24"

Norman, I'd be interested in your load data. I'm still in the break-in period with my Mesa, but so far it seems to be a little slow. I shot some factory Norma 143 ammo and the groups are steadily getting better (0.8 moa for 5 shots on Friday). Box says 2950? fps, but I'm getting just shy of 2800 with a 24" barrel.

I also ran some limited testing with 140 AB and Magnum powder. Found a very large velocity node at 2915-2925 fps and got sticky bolt lift at about 3015 fps. I had to load the Accubonds quite short due to throat length. Probably gonna try some other bullets for now. If 2925fps is all that I can do, I'll just stick with my 7-08.

I found some H1000 last week, so I may try it, but I'll give the Magnum a fair shake first as it should be faster across the board. I loaded some 120 TTSX this weekend and hope to shoot them soon. Just playing around for now with whatever I have on hand.


Seems like you might have a lot to add to this thread, as you have tried factory ammo and also handload. That factory ammo sounds slow as hell, as I have creedmoor 143gr loads that run 50 fps less than that. I generally run 140's in the creed. Seems like the perfect bullet weight for that cartridge IMHO. I'd be looking at 147's and the like, if I was loading for a PRC. I can see some advantages of the PRC over the Creed at over 1,000 yards, but for actual hunting distances you are not going to see leaps and bounds better. I know a lot of guys I shoot with, still use fast 6mm's because there are advantages with those over the creed and other 6.5's. The PRC is interesting. I'll keep watching to see where the actual niche is. Wondering how Pharm is doing with his brothers rifle? Probably not much, since elk season is just around the corner for him..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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I've only loaded for the 156 Berger in mine, otherwise have gone with factory Hornady 147 ELDM ammo
Lapua brass
Fed 210M primer
56.0 R26
2.950" COAL

Got 2,920 in a 24" barrel that has less than 50 shots on it, expect it will speed up a little. Suppressed with Ultra 7 6.5.

Tried same bullet, brass and primer with H1000
58.0 H1000 got me 2,830 fps suppressed.


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Originally Posted by country_20boy
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
My 7mm-08 will do everything I need it to do at the distances within my skill level. P

You and I agree on this. I just acquired a new 6.5 PRC and so far in my very limited loading, I can't see that it will do anything I can't do with a 7-08. I will be keeping up with your posts for info and see how this works out for you.


Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I'm just starting playing with a 6.5 PRC Christensen Arms Mesa. I had some 143 edlx, but currently alliant magnum powder is the only suitable powder available around here. No problem with 3100 fps on my 24"

Norman, I'd be interested in your load data. I'm still in the break-in period with my Mesa, but so far it seems to be a little slow. I shot some factory Norma 143 ammo and the groups are steadily getting better (0.8 moa for 5 shots on Friday). Box says 2950? fps, but I'm getting just shy of 2800 with a 24" barrel.

I also ran some limited testing with 140 AB and Magnum powder. Found a very large velocity node at 2915-2925 fps and got sticky bolt lift at about 3015 fps. I had to load the Accubonds quite short due to throat length. Probably gonna try some other bullets for now. If 2925fps is all that I can do, I'll just stick with my 7-08.

I found some H1000 last week, so I may try it, but I'll give the Magnum a fair shake first as it should be faster across the board. I loaded some 120 TTSX this weekend and hope to shoot them soon. Just playing around for now with whatever I have on hand.


I found a node at 61 gr magnum with the 143eldx I’m averaging 3050, but my ES is 40. I loaded some at different COAL to try but it’s well under a MOA. I plan on playing with the COAL and +/- 1/2 gr powder and see if I can find a happy place that’s consistent. I’ve only got about 25 -30 rounds through it so far


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Same here, using Magnum in mine as well. Also using the 139 Scenar. It's a great shooting combo.


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N565 worked best for me with the 156 EOL, fwiw.

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Still in the development stages with mine but 55.5gr of RL-26 with a 139gr Scenar @ 2.900 with CCI-250's will shoot ragged holes for me at 100yds. The other load that is shooting well for me is 56.5gr H-1000 with 127gr LRX @2.865 and CCI-250's. Still plan on trying the 143 ELDX, 140 NAB, and 156 EOL's.

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Originally Posted by country_20boy
I also ran some limited testing with 140 AB and Magnum powder. Found a very large velocity node at 2915-2925 fps and got sticky bolt lift at about 3015 fps. I had to load the Accubonds quite short due to throat length. Probably gonna try some other bullets for now. If 2925fps is all that I can do, I'll just stick with my 7-08.

I found some H1000 last week, so I may try it, but I'll give the Magnum a fair shake first as it should be faster across the board. I loaded some 120 TTSX this weekend and hope to shoot them soon. Just playing around for now with whatever I have on hand.

Thought I'd post an update if anyone is interested. Ran a velocity ladder test with Magnum and 120 ttsx. Topped out at 3182 fps with a book max load and found somewhat of a node around 3110.

I know.....very limited data..... but so far this 6.5 PRC is pretty disappointing. I think accuracy will be decent, but why would I burn 12-15 extra grains of powder with no real gains over a 7mm-08 or even a Creedmoor.....?

For both the 120 ttsx and the 140 AB, I had to load them at least 0.1" shorter than the book listing to get them to chamber. Could that have anything to do with the disappointing speeds?

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Look up Alex Wheelers info on 6.5 and 300 prc issues. Apparently there were issues with the saami
Chamber not being big enough at the base causing sizing issues after several firings. There is a Finnish reamer to fix the issue. Not sure if ya’ll are seeing that. With R26 in 6.5 CM and a 26” barrel I can get 2950 easily and 3050 with a 140 eld if I’m not worried about brass life. With a 22” barrel 2900 is doable with a 140. Not bad for 47-48 grains of powder.

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They fixed those original issues a few years back and it’s good to go … just get new reamers.

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Originally Posted by WEL
Look up Alex Wheelers info on 6.5 and 300 prc issues. Apparently there were issues with the saami
Chamber not being big enough at the base causing sizing issues after several firings. There is a Finnish reamer to fix the issue. Not sure if ya’ll are seeing that. With R26 in 6.5 CM and a 26” barrel I can get 2950 easily and 3050 with a 140 eld if I’m not worried about brass life. With a 22” barrel 2900 is doable with a 140. Not bad for 47-48 grains of powder.

What powder do you use to get 2900 with a 140 in a 22” barrel?


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Reloader 26. It’s 100-150 fps faster than H 4350. I ran a pressure ladder to 48.5 grains and got 3009 fps. Quickload had that at 3017 and 63k. Pretty close. 26” barrel. With about a 100 fps loss 2900 is doable at max from a 22”.

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Originally Posted by WEL

I used 26 in Alpha brass and I couldn't get that much in the cases. Probably have to try some other cases to get that much in. Pretty danged quick.


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I’m using Hornady. It’s not the greatest for quality but I can load max charges of R26 without vibrating the case or using a drop tube. In my 26” I backed off a bit to 2900 just for case life. For a 22” just hunting rifle I dont mind pushing it and living with shorter case life.

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Originally Posted by WEL
I’m using Hornady. It’s not the greatest for quality but I can load max charges of R26 without vibrating the case or using a drop tube. In my 26” I backed off a bit to 2900 just for case life. For a 22” just hunting rifle I dont mind pushing it and living with shorter case life.

How many firings do you get?


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