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Originally Posted by mibowhunter
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I know you mention and shoot the .284" 180's lot's. Have you ran many through critters and if so what kind ? Wondering how they do killing stuff.
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Up for a second look.


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Originally Posted by mibowhunter
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Stick,
I know you mention and shoot the .284" 180's lot's. Have you ran many through critters and if so what kind ? Wondering how they do killing stuff.
Thanks

Up for a second look.

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Ask a simple question and the thread goes off the rails per normal.

It's too bad you guys can't play nice.


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Originally Posted by mibowhunter
Ask a simple question and the thread goes off the rails per normal.

It's too bad you guys can't play nice.

LIl Fish can't answer the question.

He has no idea what happens when 180gr of .284 hits meat.

Others do know what happens.


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Originally Posted by mibowhunter
Ask a simple question and the thread goes off the rails per normal.

It's too bad you guys can't play nice.

It's the 'fire...it was a given at some point. Most of the input was along my original line of thought.

I'm throwing those 2 puny rounds aside and going 28 Nosler. Only input needed is more powder. ...grin...

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Originally Posted by mibowhunter
Ask a simple question and the thread goes off the rails per normal.

It's too bad you guys can't play nice.

It's the 'fire...it was a given at some point. Most of the input was along my original line of thought.

I'm throwing those 2 puny rounds aside and going 28 Nosler. Only input needed is more powder. ...grin...


I like it.

But, to me, the proper answer would be build all three. Sure there's overlap and, really, one round of the type that's been stated in this thread can just about do it all, but then, where's the fun in that?

As I've seen stated before: I'm a big proponent of diversity, especially in my gun safe.

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It’s pretty much the same discussion 60 or so years ago with 264 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag with technology baked in. Both were fast, one throws heavier bullets and was easier on barrels. Today with two great case designs and exceptional bullet designs, the barrel life argument is moot. The 7PRC simply has more horsepower just like the argument 60 years ago and will outperform on heavier game animals at extreme range (700+ yards). At 600 yards on game the size of elk the 6.5PRC is a fine choice. With game in the 400lbs range and alpine hunting, the 6.5PRC can be easier to use on recoil, rifle weight and use a shorter barrel length. Shooting elk and moose at extreme distance (700-800 yards) would favor the 7PRC, shooting elk and moose at 600 yards on down would still favor the 7PRC for horsepower, but the 6.5PRC would suffice nicely. For smaller game at any distance the 6.5PRC is about ideal. It all just depends on how you intend to utilize either and what you intend to spend most of your time hunting in the field. Shooting paper requires little stress in a predetermined controlled environment, shooting game at extreme distances is anything but.

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After listening to some comments by Erik Cortina I think a 7x6.5 PRC could be interesting.

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Originally Posted by Starbuck
But, to me, the proper answer would be build all three. Sure there's overlap and, really, one round of the type that's been stated in this thread can just about do it all, but then, where's the fun in that?

As I've seen stated before: I'm a big proponent of diversity, especially in my gun safe.

That's what I did ! laugh


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I say neck down that 7prc brass to 6.5, and have a Real 6.5 PRC doing about 3300-3500fps with a 140-150grain projectile smile

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Originally Posted by mibowhunter
Stick,
I know you mention and shoot the .284" 180's lot's. Have you ran many through critters and if so what kind ? Wondering how they do killing stuff.
Thanks

I've used the 208 eldm out of a 300 win mag at 2900 fps muzzle velocity. At 500 yards it was magic on elk. At 100 yards it was sketchy marginal on a big mule deer. Bullet evaporated. I'd for sure not want to take a shoulder shot on an elk up close with a 208 eldm. Perhaps the 180 is a toupher bullet but I doubt it! I'd guess if your shooting critters beyond 300 yards every time it may be a good way to go


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JCMCUBIC and Starbuck y’all need a “like” button great comments 👍😃

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300 prc necked to 7. Hint


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7-300 prc that was my thinking too

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I can't see a 7 PRC doing anything the 7mm Remington hasn't been doing for decades. Plenty of mag space in a 700 for the Remmy and 180/195 grain bullets. Plenty of brass, dies, factory ammo. I'll happily slum a 7 Remington if I feel the need.

For now a rather pedestrian 6.5-284 is working for my long range needs. And oh, not a lot the 6.5-284 can't do compared to a 6.5 PRC. But I digress.

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Originally Posted by 30338
I can't see a 7 PRC doing anything the 7mm Remington hasn't been doing for decades. Plenty of mag space in a 700 for the Remmy and 180/195 grain bullets. Plenty of brass, dies, factory ammo. I'll happily slum a 7 Remington if I feel the need.

For now a rather pedestrian 6.5-284 is working for my long range needs. And oh, not a lot the 6.5-284 can't do compared to a 6.5 PRC. But I digress.

I'll happily take the 7PRC strictly for reloading purposes of getting around the belt that they put on then 7 rem mag. Whoever invented that belt that serves zero purpose should be kicked in the nuts IMO


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Originally Posted by Trystan
Originally Posted by 30338
I can't see a 7 PRC doing anything the 7mm Remington hasn't been doing for decades. Plenty of mag space in a 700 for the Remmy and 180/195 grain bullets. Plenty of brass, dies, factory ammo. I'll happily slum a 7 Remington if I feel the need.

For now a rather pedestrian 6.5-284 is working for my long range needs. And oh, not a lot the 6.5-284 can't do compared to a 6.5 PRC. But I digress.

I'll happily take the 7PRC strictly for reloading purposes of getting around the belt that they put on then 7 rem mag. Whoever invented that belt that serves zero purpose should be kicked in the nuts IMO

Just a random question, but how does the belt hurt anything? I agree, it isn't needed, but if you load the case the same way you'd load a 7 PRC how would it ever hurt/hinder anything?


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I would agree for the most part that the 7mm Rem Mag can stay with the 7PRC ballistically if it is not constrained. Magazine length is only one of the constraints, the others are what any stock/factory 7mm Rem Mag would have to deal with and that is throating and barrel twist rate. Many COAL in the 7mm Rem Mag could be restrictive in throwing high BC 180, 190 and 195 grain bullets. Mine is a Howa (circa 1998) that will kiss at 3.392”. Pulling back at 0.010” I can load length at 3.382”, which is fairly generous. My magazine length is 3.560”, so my throat is the governing factor in lieu of the magazine length as well as my barrel twist rate at 1-9.5. The 7PRC is already designed and compensated for all three of the constraints above for shooting long, heavy .284 bullets.

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Originally Posted by mathman
After listening to some comments by Erik Cortina I think a 7x6.5 PRC could be interesting.

F Class John has been experimenting with his friend's design called the 7mm-3DP, which is also based on 6.5 PRC brass.

The 7mm Short PRC (McWhorter 7SPRC) caught my eye awhile back. Just neck up 6.5 PRC brass to 7mm. Choose from Lapua, ADG, or Peterson brass.

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