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Originally Posted by Slavek
No need to settle for old guns which will not be serviced by Ruger (affectionately known as the Mother Ship) and parts will not be available. Ruger is making nice blued SP 101 with 3" barrel and adjustable sights. It looks real nice for a Ruger product.

Mine is a four inch in 327, but my gunsmith put a pretty decent trigger job on it. ALMOST as nice as my S&W 657.


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I've owned a couple SP-101s and a S&W model 60. The first SP-101 was before they offered it in .357 so .38 +P. Think it had a 3" barrel. The other was a 2-1/4" .357. The model 60 has a 3" full lug barrel and adjustable sights. I like the SP-101s but the adjustable sights pushes the S&W over the top for me.

Minus Oregon's measure 114 tripping up my shopping plans, I was going to pick up a 4" barreled SP-101 with adjustable sights. I think those are sweet little guns. For "kit gun" use, IMHO it's about perfect. Enough barrel / sight radius for accuracy, light enough not to be intrusive, with a lot of ammo options from light target loads to borderline deer hunting loads. With the S&W model 60 in hand, much as I like the SP-101s, I really can't see another of the short barreled ones. That ground is covered.

The 3" model 60 is pretty respectably accurate. It'll keep the old Federal 125 grain HP factory ammo in a 2" group at 50 yards from a rest. It also hits hard. I was jumped by a cougar here in the yard last August and the cougar didn't survive. I didn't like the recoil with the factor rubber grip. In my hands, it is more pleasant to shoot with the laminated rosewood "boot" grip despite that being smaller and a harder material.

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I’ve had a 3” adj sight .357 Model 60 since the year it came out, had the .38 Spl version before that.

One of those designs than is greater than the sum of its parts, just plain works.

I introduced my ex and son to shooting handguns with it and for years loaded with .38 PlusP’s it was our on-hand home defense gun.

With the supplied Uncle Mike’s Combat grips recoil even with hot .357 180gr hunting loads was not a problem, tho heavy recoil did slow repeat shots.

I still have it, though an Airweight with .38+PlusP substitutes for home defense and a Glock 19 with 147 grain Hardcast loads substitute for woods carry.


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Originally Posted by gunzo
The 3" model 60 calls me. Particularly the Pro model with a lighter barrel & tritium front sight.

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Be hard to beat, for a small frame 357 mag, IMO.

I love my 3” barreled stainless Model 66. But it’s a chunk to carry compared to those 3” Model 60’s.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I found this Model 60-15 at a South FL pawnshop. It is a great carry revolver
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Nice snag, Sam !


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Originally Posted by T_O_M
I was jumped by a cougar here in the yard last August and the cougar didn't survive.

Tell us more about this…..what load, placement, performance, range??!

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I was jumped by a cougar here in the yard last August and the cougar didn't survive.

Tell us more about this…..what load, placement, performance, range??!

The load was Federal's full power .357 125 grain JHP .. the one Marshall and Sanow, Ayoob, etc touted as #1 for one shot stops. Out of production I think? Shot distance was under 20 feet. Angle was maybe 1/8th of a turn away from straight at me. I either broke it's back or broke it's pelvis. After the first shot it got its front legs under it but couldn't get the back legs under it .. tried to drag itself away.

I don't know much more about what happened inside the cat. I shot into it one more time with the .357 then went back to the house for a rifle to finish mopping up. (Got the wrong ammo so it took quite a few shots to make it lay down and stay there.) F&W autopsied it. Said apparently healthy male, 95 pounds, about 5 years old. They didn't tell me anything about the bullet placement or damage.


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I bought my wife a 3" sp101 to carry while fishing in island park and an lcrx for jogging and around town stuff. The sp101 it's much more shootable with 180 hard cast or the 158g xtps I usually load for her to carry.

The lcrx is 38 only so it doesn't take the hotter loads anyways but I usually put factory 130g hsts with a reload of 125g golden Saber +ps. It's more for weirdos and pit bulls than woods. I just cast a bunch of 148g soup can wadcutters and powder coated them so I'll load some of those up to about 850 fps and see how they do for her. Hopefully they'll get her practicing more.

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Hope you have ear plugs in when you fire a short barrel 357.

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I’d get the Colt King Cobra Carry.

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as EdM said, a model 65, three inch barrel. Mine was converted to DAO by the Smith and Wesson custom shop
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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
as EdM said, a model 65, three inch barrel. Mine was converted to DAO by the Smith and Wesson custom shop
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