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When i was shooting 1000 BR, we had a guy with a 308 Warbird, 32" barrel...
At the time 210 Bergers were the biggest they made. He tried them and rarely would all 10 rounds make it to target.
Ended up with 240 Sierras.


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I have killed a bunch of coyotes using Berger 65 grain bullets out of a 243. I'd have to check my records as to the velocity, but it was a fast load. They were labeled as being Match bullets, and are HPBT's. I do not recall ever shooting and not finding a coyote, as they were DRT.

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I have killed a bunch of coyotes using Berger 65 grain bullets out of a 243. I'd have to check my records as to the velocity, but it was a fast load. They were labeled as being Match bullets, and are HPBT's. I do not recall ever shooting and not finding a coyote, as they were DRT.

Good accuracy I assume?

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Originally Posted by WYcoyote
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I have killed a bunch of coyotes using Berger 65 grain bullets out of a 243. I'd have to check my records as to the velocity, but it was a fast load. They were labeled as being Match bullets, and are HPBT's. I do not recall ever shooting and not finding a coyote, as they were DRT.

Good accuracy I assume?

Very good accuracy out of a couple of Remington 700's.

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I been flinging the 210 vld target in my ultra since they were first introduced. Never had an animal run after 1 shot. Guess they don’t know the difference between target and hunting haha

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I’ve shot probably 50 deer with a 105vld target from very close to many hundreds of yards. Zero complaints. I couldn’t find any more so I bought 200 of the 105vld hunters. Loaded some up, Same powder, primers, base to ogive measurement. At 100 they shot amazingly well. Like high .1’s. But at 600 my old vld targets shoot about 2” groups and the hunters were shooting 4.5-5” groups….. I played with the powder charges bit but groups were all about the same at 600. I guess I’ll start moving the bullet and see if I can get the groups back down.

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I think the bullets the same except for the size of the hollow point. The hunting bulllets have a larger opening. The target bullets would pencil on coyotes past about 600 yards.

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Oddly enough the 6mm 105 target bullet is actually LONGER than the hunting version but Berger is listing the BC’s higher on the hunting bullet…. Not sure as to how or why that’s possible. If the weather ever clears up I’ll get back to shooting them and hopefully get my groups back down with the hunting vld.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
I think the bullets the same except for the size of the hollow point. The hunting bulllets have a larger opening.

Really? Have you ever tried to stick the point of a small safety pin down the "hole" of a Hunting VLD? All that I've tried that on wouldn't allow the pin to even enter the "hollow point."


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Originally Posted by pete53
i am not impressed with Berger hunting bullets on game animals.
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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
From what I understand, the original Berger target bullet was being used by hunters, and they were reporting fantastic results. The bullet had a thinner jacket. The thinner jacketed bullet when shot by target shooters, who generally shoot bullets at higher velocities, would sometimes come apart in flight.

Berger thickened the jacket up to improved their target bullets.

The original Berger target bullet is now their Hunting bullet.


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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Now in say a 7 rum you run the 180, I'll bet you money, marbles, and chalk that bullet blows throw a deer at 150 to 200 yards and you'll be tracking.

Having seen more than 50 had of big game fall to 180s from na 7mm RUM I will tell you you're completely wrong. Elk, bears, whitetail, antelope.... the 180 is impressive. I have either shot or been present when shot game killed at 100 yards to 1050 yards. Under 250 yards is messy. DRT with lots of trauma.
This has proven to be an amazing combination.


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