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Well poop,

I was hoping there'd be something of an answer by now.


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Well poop,

I was hoping there'd be something of an answer by now.
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This is hardly news but the police have officially said that they have a lot of evidence that they haven't released to the public. Releasing it could scare the public and hinder the investigation. I think we all knew that to be the case but now they've come out and said it.
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Would be interesting to know if the cops have evidence or persons of interest, in the Oregon and Washington attacks, that allow them to rule out any relationship among the three incidents.

How often do people get knifed to death in their homes, by a total stranger, who is explicitly targeting them for murder? I'm guessing it's extremely rare. Then add in that all three attacks occurred within relative proximity to each other and on the 13th of their respective month...

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In the last press conference they said they haven't named a suspect...not that they didn't have a suspect. Huge difference.

I think it's the dumped boyfriend and I think the cops think so too. He was gonna make em all pay.

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Would be interesting to know if the cops have evidence or persons of interest, in the Oregon and Washington attacks, that allow them to rule out any relationship among the three incidents.

How often do people get knifed to death in their homes, by a total stranger, who is explicitly targeting them for murder? I'm guessing it's extremely rare. Then add in that all three attacks occurred within relative proximity to each other and on the 13th of their respective month...

Good analysis, maybe they're just saying there is no connection so as not to over alert the perp.


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They'd put out a public warning within an hour of discovering the bodies telling everyone to stay inside behind locked doors, a murdered on the loose type of thing.

90 minutes afterwards, they lifted that warning and claimed it was a targeted murder and the public need not worry.

There was something about that crime scene that influenced them to do that, it also appears it may be part of the information they are holding back from public release.

I find it to be somewhat unique that whoever did this was efficient enough at taking a life with knife so well that not one of the four had enough life left in them to find their phone and punch 911 before they died.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't think it'd be that easy to kill someone with a knife that effectively 4 times in a row no matter how many times you stabbed them without one of them having a few moments left in them.

The coroner said they were stabbed, not slashed. Based on that it kinda rules our throats being cut.

I doubt this was planned, it seems more of a rage of the moment kinda thing.

I think the guy had to have above basic knowledge of where to stab them to be so successful.

Who knows, hopefully time will tell.


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The fact that this is the third unsolved stabbing murder is definitely unsettling. June 13, 2020 in Washington state, the next a double stabbing Aug 13, 2021 in Oregon and now quadruple stabbing in Moscow, Idaho Nov 13th. This may be a serial killer on the loose. All in the middle of the night, all the victims in bed. I’m guessing this is part of the reason they are ao tight-lipped and the resources being put into this one. Hopefully all three cases are solved soon; connected or not. Bless their families


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
In the last press conference they said they haven't named a suspect...not that they didn't have a suspect. Huge difference.

I think it's the dumped boyfriend and I think the cops think so too. He was gonna make em all pay.


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Press release 2 hours ago.

Moscow police said in a short statement Friday night that the killings of four University of Idaho students do not appear to be tied to similar stabbings that occurred in Oregon and Washington.


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They'd put out a public warning within an hour of discovering the bodies telling everyone to stay inside behind locked doors, a murdered on the loose type of thing.

90 minutes afterwards, they lifted that warning and claimed it was a targeted murder and the public need not worry.

There was something about that crime scene that influenced them to do that, it also appears it may be part of the information they are holding back from public release.

I find it to be somewhat unique that whoever did this was efficient enough at taking a life with knife so well that not one of the four had enough life left in them to find their phone and punch 911 before they died.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't think it'd be that easy to kill someone with a knife that effectively 4 times in a row no matter how many times you stabbed them without one of them having aYou'd besueprised how qui few moments left in them.

The coroner said they were stabbed, not slashed. Based on that it kinda rules our throats being cut.

I doubt this was planned, it seems more of a rage of the moment kinda thing.

I think the guy had to have above basic knowledge of where to stab them to be so successful.

Who knows, hopefully time will tell.

You'd be surprised how quickly a knife will kill if you put it in the right spot, I've had pigs die in a matter of seconds.


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In the last press conference they said they haven't named a suspect...not that they didn't have a suspect. Huge difference.

I think it's the dumped boyfriend and I think the cops think so too. He was gonna make em all pay.


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I think the killer is going to be named Jack but it's not going to be the boyfriend.


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Originally Posted by DryPowder
I think the killer is going to be named Jack but it's not going to be the boyfriend.

You mean the one who has twin brothers and a mother that are doctors and his father is listed online as being a surgery specialist, that guy?


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Just a short update:

Half-empty Idaho campus full of fear, grief

Nov.30th Seattle Times
Idaho — In a normal year, University of Idaho students would be bustling between classes and the library, readying for the pre-finals cramming period known as “dead week.”

On Wednesday, however, a little under half the students appeared to be gone, choosing to stay home and take classes online rather than return to the town where the killings of four classmates remain unsolved, said Blaine Eckles, the university’s dean of students. Some students who were in attendance were relying on university-hired security staffers to drive them to class because they didn’t want to walk across campus alone.

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Meanwhile, not a word out of Washington DC.

No words of compassion or concerns for the 12,000 students and faculty effected.

No condolences for the victims families.

No words of encouragement or support for the teams of law enforcement involved.

Nuttin, notta word.

I guess that could be a unrealistic expectation, our president is a busy man.

He didn't find time to console the families of the four gentlemen that were found hacked into pieces and tosser into a Oklahoma River after their failed robbery attempt either.

Yet he's had plenty of time to reach out to all involved in the Colorado Gay Bar shooting and the Virginia Walmart murders as he rallies his troops to create more gun control.

Doesn't fit the narrative I guess, wrong weapon involved.

News of the Moscow Idaho murders is down to a trickle but there is some.

This guy, who some suspect as the supposedly 'stalker' involved keeps making himself available for news interviews.

He's the next door neighbor that says he watched through their windows as they partied 4 or 5 nights a week when he'd take his dog out. He's a law student and more of a concerned neighborhood I guess but his constant news interviews and personal admissions have landed him in a difficult spot.

Now he's stating he's carrying a gun full time.
Personally I don't think he's very intelligent, he needs to keep his mouth shut, wonder when they teach that in law school.



I think the police have a real good idea of who's done this and just can't get the evidence they need to make an arrest.
I think the Goncalves family knows as well.

Kaylee's sister is also doing interviews, earlier on in a interview she was pointing out how the police had the timeline wrong as to when her sister arrived home.
She went to a neighbor and got their Ring Doorbell camera footage and got the police corrected on their incorrect data.

I guess she's slyer than the cops.



Her father, Steve Goncalves knows a lot and he's talking.
The police are holding him back on what he can say.

I'm most positive he's talked to the kids that walked through that house before the police got there the day of the murders.
He has a lot of information, some of which he really wants to share for some reason but the police are asking him not to.



This is not the kinda guy you'd ever want to f_uck with and who ever did this took his most prized possession.

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He's a man with resources, he's a multi millionaire, the nature of the business he's in alone could give him some substantial electronic investigation capabilities, maybe more so than the police.
He's also hired his own private investigators.

Code writers could be looked at as advanced hackers, except they have no rules or regulations to follow.

If Steve knows who killed his daughter the guy needs to have much more concern of Steve than the police.

What Steve learns about the killer and how he learns it doesn't nessasarly have to hold up in court, he's seeking justice.



Steve has not had a funeral for Kaylee yet, he says he's concerned her killer may try to attend.


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AKASPARKY - " ... Now he's [Jeremy Reagan] stating he's carrying a gun full time. Personally I don't think he's very intelligent, he needs to keep his mouth shut, wonder when they teach that in law school. ..."

I do not think his intelligence level is astronomical, either. I know if I felt my life/health might be in danger, I'd sure as hell not advertise on teevee that I was carrying a firearm. I believe in "Surprise surprise!!"

Of course, everyone wants to be on teevee so it is normal for this young man to keep giving these interviews. "Look, Ma, I'm on teevee!!!"

"Keep your mouth shut," I say, and stop worrying about teevee and selfies.

My opinion.

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I don"t know but I think the only one who can solve this is FBI agent Herschel Walker.


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AKASPARKY - " ... Now he's [Jeremy Reagan] stating he's carrying a gun full time. Personally I don't think he's very intelligent, he needs to keep his mouth shut, wonder when they teach that in law school. ..."

I do not think his intelligence level is astronomical, either. I know if I felt my life/health might be in danger, I'd sure as hell not advertise on teevee that I was carrying a firearm. I believe in "Surprise surprise!!"

Of course, everyone wants to be on teevee so it is normal for this young man to keep giving these interviews. "Look, Ma, I'm on teevee!!!"

"Keep your mouth shut," I say, and stop worrying about teevee and selfies.

My opinion.

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The guy wanted to be a part of this investigation so bad he could taste it.
Now his wish has been granted and he's scared to death.

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Uhhh. The deceased persons look rather high in most pics, no?

Not helpful, just an observation.


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Uhhh. The deceased persons look rather high in most pics, no?

Not helpful, just an observation.
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The devastated father of murdered University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves revealed during a candlelight vigil Wednesday night that she died in the same bed as her longtime best friend, Madison Mogen.

“These girls were absolutely beautiful. They’ve been friends since sixth grade … Every day they did homework together, they came to our house together, they shared everything,” Steve Goncalves told a crowd of about 1,000 people at the campus.

“They went to high school together, then they started looking at colleges and they came here together, they eventually get into the same apartment together,” he said inside the school’s Kibbie Dome, the Idaho Statesman reported.

“And in the end, they died together, in the same room, in the same bed. And it’s a shame, and it hurts,” the grieving dad continued.

He said he took solace from the fact that they were together in their last moments on Nov. 13 in their off-campus home in Moscow.

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