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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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This is stupid Biden is stupid and anyone that thinks getting oil from somewhere else is going to help the environment or make “green” energy is also stupid. I’ve said it before We used more oil today than yesterday it’s been that way my whole life it’s not going to change in my lifetime. You can buy your queer mobile that plugs into an outlet and think you made a difference but all you did was confirm your stupid and will be that way forever. When you can plug your queer mobile into a rainbow or windmill let me know.

We have plenty of US oil available without paying Venezuela for it.



This is supposed to be a door opening to reward the Venezuelan government for their willingness to discuss honest and fair elections there

I’m sure all of this is on the up and up, eh?
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That will happen when we get free and honest elections in The USA.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
The Limited Permit states all oroduced oil is to be shipped to the USA and that any profits derived from the Venezuelan oil be used to pay Venezuelan creditors in the USA.

The Guardian, WSJ

If I read that correctly, the bidet administration is going to allow permit holders to invest money in oil production and all the profits will go toward unpaid creditors. Where is the motivation or monetary reward for the investor? And 10% for the big guy!

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Originally Posted by 45_100
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The Limited Permit states all oroduced oil is to be shipped to the USA and that any profits derived from the Venezuelan oil be used to pay Venezuelan creditors in the USA.

The Guardian, WSJ

If I read that correctly, the bidet administration is going to allow permit holders to invest money in oil production and all the profits will go toward unpaid creditors. Where is the motivation or monetary reward for the investor? And 10% for the big guy!
10% for the big guy ?it will come under the table


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So, when did our president become a licensing agency?


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Originally Posted by 1minute
So, when did our president become a licensing agency?
so, when did he become our president?


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Originally Posted by 1minute
So, when did our president become a licensing agency?

When he went into politics?


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Originally Posted by 45_100
Originally Posted by Houston_2
The Limited Permit states all oroduced oil is to be shipped to the USA and that any profits derived from the Venezuelan oil be used to pay Venezuelan creditors in the USA.

The Guardian, WSJ

If I read that correctly, the bidet administration is going to allow permit holders to invest money in oil production and all the profits will go toward unpaid creditors. Where is the motivation or monetary reward for the investor? And 10% for the big guy!

If correct, there’s only one permit issued and that’s to Chevron who is also an unpaid creditor.

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If Venezuela is not going to get the money do they have to allow their oil to be taken?

We has 12 Super Carriers that say yes, yes they do.


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This is actually a good long term strategic move.

The Russians are to busy in Ukraine to me messing around in Venezuela. Instead of letting someone like the Chinese come in and fill the power vacuum, we reengage in a small way that get the Venezuelan oil flowing to the U.S. again, while directing much of the proceeds into U.S. Capital markets, and start putting pressure on VZ to play nice again.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
This is actually a good long term strategic move.

The Russians are to busy in Ukraine to me messing around in Venezuela. Instead of letting someone like the Chinese come in and fill the power vacuum, we reengage in a small way that get the Venezuelan oil flowing to the U.S. again, while directing much of the proceeds into U.S. Capital markets, and start putting pressure on VZ to play nice again.

So the United States is basically taking oil from Venezuela by force if necessary? I fail to see how this is a good thing. I don't see how this sets a good precedent. What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by 45_100
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This is actually a good long term strategic move.

The Russians are to busy in Ukraine to me messing around in Venezuela. Instead of letting someone like the Chinese come in and fill the power vacuum, we reengage in a small way that get the Venezuelan oil flowing to the U.S. again, while directing much of the proceeds into U.S. Capital markets, and start putting pressure on VZ to play nice again.

So the United States is basically taking oil from Venezuela by force if necessary? I fail to see how this is a good thing. I don't see how this sets a good precedent. What am I missing?

What force is being directly applied “if necessary”?

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Use Venezuelan oil to replenish our Strategic reserves that Biden sold to China.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
What force is being directly applied “if necessary”?

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If Venezuela is not going to get the money do they have to allow their oil to be taken?

We has 12 Super Carriers that say yes, yes they do.

This force. And 10% for the big guy.

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Venezuelan Crude is very dirty.

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Originally Posted by Dp1975
This is stupid Biden is stupid and anyone that thinks getting oil from somewhere else is going to help the environment or make “green” energy is also stupid. I’ve said it before We used more oil today than yesterday it’s been that way my whole life it’s not going to change in my lifetime. You can buy your queer mobile that plugs into an outlet and think you made a difference but all you did was confirm your stupid and will be that way forever. When you can plug your queer mobile into a rainbow or windmill let me know.

We have plenty of US oil available without paying Venezuela for it.
It's a socialist helping out another socialist. I'm sure China had some input into all of this.

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More money into Democunt pockets

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Originally Posted by Hogwild7
Venezuelan Crude is very dirty.

If so, why not refine it in Venezuela and ship the refined product to the U.S. refineries on the Gulf of Mexico for further processing?

I doubt that the Venezuelan crude can be any dirtier than the Canadian shale oil crude.

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Originally Posted by 45_100
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What force is being directly applied “if necessary”?

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Hastings
If Venezuela is not going to get the money do they have to allow their oil to be taken?

We has 12 Super Carriers that say yes, yes they do.

This force. And 10% for the big guy.

The only gun held on Venezuela is the economic gun of sanctions not the military type.

We need their crude they need to have the sanctions eased.

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Originally Posted by Hogwild7
Venezuelan Crude is very dirty.

It’s heavier crude, mostly.

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