Dairy is a major ag industry here, now bigger than the famous potatoes. We have over 500k milk cows within 75 miles of here. Dairies with 2k to 5k cows are common and there are a few with 10k. Chobani's biggest plant is here and there are cheese factories scattered all over the place. This summer producers were getting record high prices for milk but their cost of production has gone nuts. Hay is WAY up and you know what the situation is with diesel. Retail milk can be found around $2.75/gal and butter for under $3/lb.
Idaho got it's start in big dairying because of CA's idiotic environmental laws. They drove the big dairies out and they moved here.
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Reducing size at increased price is profit inflation. Especially when companies have the same amount to sell as before.
Not necessarily… raw materials cost more…transportation and labor costs too…
You didn't get a fuuuking thing I said obviously.
After over head cost are still covered...
Then you make more with same amount as before at increased price in less amount of product.
Hello Mcfly.......
You are one of those who think profit inflation isn't going on???
I knew my post would bring out someone. And then you select quote cause you got blinders on... Can't cherry pick anything in my original post. It lays out the bullschit going on.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is numb....
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The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Those are the operations driving ours out of business.
No way to earn a living with a couple kids and a hired man or 2, farming 5-800 acres and milking 80 cows. Not against the efficiency of a 5k head herd, buying railcars of feed. Only a few people using turntables and other automation.
Is it bad, or evolution?
Both.
Two years ago we saw the affect of centralized food production.
Issues in 3 100 head milking herds are no big deal.
Same with a diary that serves 50 of those farms.
Little bump in the road.
Let 3-5 10k head herds get shut down and it's a problem. Same with the Chobani plant.
Milk, cheese, yogurt....no huge deal if it became scarce for a bit. But butter? :cry No idea just what else might be affected.
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Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
We have what's needed for those big dairies - lots of room so they can be away from people. What we lack is another essential - water. A dairy like that uses a million gal a day or more. A cow needs 10 gal just for the milk she produces, in addition to body functions and cleanup. Many of the farms are now composting the manure and spreading it on their hay fields. Plants can use compost more efficiently and it reduces potential pollution in the water table.
If you want to buy some rural land here, you'd do well to carefully study Google Earth, looking for dairies and feedlots upwind of any property you're interested in. I've seen very very nice, low priced properties downwind of a dairy. They're sometimes impossible to sell.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
One of my foster parents, to this day I have no idea how they made it into the system but the husband was always drunk. He loved ice cream too, he caught me eating it one evening. He hit me in the head with baking sheet knocked me out cold… chit hurt. Nugget
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
Might not be what it seems? Could be inflation, could be they just switched suppliers? I'd not be surprised if the new casing came from Turkey and was cut to a different standard?
LaLa is the big dairy outfit in Mexico. When I was working in Torreon, we drove past several of their dairies each day. Approx 5k head per set up. All dry lot. Alfalfa was grown in long strips. Flood irrigated. The strips were exactly 6x the width of the cutter head on the swather. Swather would make 3 trips down the field and back. Move to the next strip. I did not see any alfalfa being baled. Only saw green chop in the back of two and three axle trucks being moved to the cows. IIRC, they said 10 to 11 cuttings per year. 3 weeks per cutting in warm weather. 4-5 weeks in cool weather.
A popular brand in the PNW is Umpquah from the Umpquah Dairy in Oregon. They've been the last holdout in cutting the carton size to 1.5 qt. They've finally fallen to Bidenflation. I was in a store yesterday and the Umpquah cartons in front were still 1.75 but all the new stock behind them were smaller. About the only things that haven't been reduced are a gallon of milk and a pound of butter.