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Similar story with my cousin in Roundup, Montana. The family was at a diner having dinner and some loudmouth kept running his mouth with all sorts of foul language. My cousin asked him to cut out his cursing. The fellow continued to curse and my cousin walked over to him, grabbed him by the collar and pulled him off his chair. Then he explained how he would beat him senseless if he didn’t shut up, causing the malefactor to piss his pants.

My cousin resumed his meal without throwing a single punch. However, he did box extensively in golden gloves in the 1950’s and his brother did punch Cassius Clay in the face a few years earlier in a Golden Gloves match before the 1960 Olympics…

I am 71 and have never been in an altercation with a stranger.
It takes two to tango, and they will eventually find each other.

§ 1047.7 Use of deadly force.
(a) Deadly force means that force which a reasonable person would consider likely to cause death or serious bodily harm.

kid was in the car with the guy who got knocked the f out.....kid will never say "my dad can beat up your dad."

He did have a big bevy of beefy beauties to be strutting for.

The guy in the pickup wasn't trapped, he was in a parking lot and could have driven right out into the road. That is what he should have done.
The other driver couldn't fight, but he might have pulled a gun. "Mr. Boxer" didn't know if he was unarmed.

Two dumbasses sought each other out, solved nothing and didn't make the world a better place.

Maybe in 2022, but in the days of this man, you had better keep your mouth shut or you could get seriously hurt.


“I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

And out of nowhere, a pack of Sow hogs descend upon that guy.

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I was literally about to post the same thing.

Desperate housewives syndrome.

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Entertainment value of the video aside, this thread is extremely interesting from a sociological perspective.

In the not-so-long ago (1985ish and back) in the USA (and Canada as well, I imagine), one didn't have the right to get in someone's face, insult and provoke them, and, so long as the aggressor didn't touch the other person, experience no negative consequences.

In other words, one didn't have the right to be an azzhole without repercussions.

It wasn't in the legal code, but it was part of living in a civil society. Most learned this on the playgrounds, schoolbuses, and vacant lots across the country. Kids learned how to be civil by experiencing, or at least witnessing firsthand, the school of hard knocks.

I graduated from high school in 1986. Fights were a fairly regular occurrence in elementary and middle school, rarer, but still occurred, in high school. Nobody was ever seriously injured, and nobody was expelled, or even severely disciplined for a simple fistfight/ground grapple struggle.

But we learned not to be azzholes to others, or someone would come along and teach us some manners.

That hasn't been the case in schools for at least 30-35 years. And we have adult-aged children, like Mx. Skinny Jeans, who get well into their 20's or 30's and have never learned that lesson.

And then, eventually, they do.

Mx. Skinny Jeans is lucky he only received a concussion and some stitches learning his lesson. It could have been bullets and the morgue.

"He can happen to anyone"

THIS

Well said.

Then you should have seen my reply.

Arkansas probably has a $1,000 limit for felony level theft or vandalism and phones these days can easily get there out-of-the-box. The contents can be even more valuable. Deliberately knocking a valuable phone out of his hand should be considered assault.

Sitka you reeeealy missed a golden opportunity to use “bloviating” here…

An azzwipe got royally and deservedly cold cocked - it was awesome!

Steve, the two go together. It's a standard legal formula, i.e., death or serious bodily injury, but only within appropriate context.

If the blow was deemed unjustified (for example, you just walked up to someone and clocked him), and he died or suffered serious bodily injury, you'd be charged as if your intent were death or serious bodily injury, but that standard doesn't apply in the context of force used in self-defense, i.e., such as when you are cornered and struck by an aggressor. In that case, you apply the standards appropriate for self-defense against an unarmed attacker, i.e., you are justified in the application of force sufficient to neutralize further aggression, but short of that degree of force reasonably considered to be calculated to bring about serious injury or death. But in the context of actions in self-defense, it doesn't matter what degree of injury your actions actually cause. All that matters in that context is reasonable intent, i.e., would a reasonable person believe that your actions in self-defense were calculated to bring about serious injury or death (e.g., put the aggressor in the critical care ward or the graveyard). A singular punch to the face would not meet that standard in the context of an action carried out in self-defense, even if the result was death or serious bodily injury.

Different standards apply depending on justification, i.e., whether one is in the right or in the wrong.