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Sako M85 Varmint HB/fluted. I should also mention I'd like to minimize wind drift, wind is constant challenge around here. Then you want to be shooting 75 ELDs or similar.
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Wonder how they did the 69 good and nosedived the 75’s?
Thanks for the heads up. I sold all of the Tikkas except the CTR but it’s good to have options. According to the owner of RMR, they are using their forming dies for the 69's to make the 75's. A test run. I didn't like the looks of them. Doesn't surprise me they aren't well-balanced.
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Have a couple pards here on a R&D visit and my predictions are ringing true. Many months ago,I stated 223 excellence,via the 75 ELD,88 ELD and 90 Beer Can in particular. The boys whistled through 100rds of Lapooey Virgins,with 75 ELD's,400's,.003" constriction and a square CTR magfed Smooch. Hint.
I let them shoot their schit first(S/S Howie 257 Wby with 110 ELD Factory Fodder and CA 264 Kreed with 143 ELD X Factory). Neither had DOPE,so that was the first order of bidness. Graciously granting the prescribed velocity for same,schit soon got real. After initial zero,the Transonic Slip(s) were much closer than forecast by Factory values and aligned my prediction(s). At least they could connect a little something,to something,after THE Tutorial. Then I handed them my FC 243 Kreed with 110 Sugars and said "DOPE on stock is money" and turned them loose. Then all wanted same,for "some" reason?!? Hint. LAUGHING!
Last move was to unleash the Baby CTR and 75 ELD magfed square Smooches,with like "guidance",by stating "DOPE on stock is money". Minds were blown and checks were cut and awaiting EuroOptic resupply. I kept reiterating how same was yielded with wayyyyyyyyy less than 30grs of powder and heads kept shaking Hint.(grin)
Passed (9) Bucks yeasterday. It's on. Hint...................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Sako M85 Varmint HB/fluted. I should also mention I'd like to minimize wind drift, wind is constant challenge around here. Then you want to be shooting 75 ELDs or similar. I've got a Pac Nor barrel with a one in 7 twist, and also one in 22.250 with the same barrel... 24 inch, heavy mag contour... when I've used them for a season, they scored using the old 80 grain A Maxes....that and the 75 BTHP Hornady were the most accurate and reached out there the furthest and the flattest ....and when the bullet connected, both would drop the deer on the spot... Preferred those 80 grainer A Maxes....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Unfortunately,the Hornie 75 HPBT only has a .395 BC. The 80 'Max only a .473 and obviously G1's both. Hint. The 75 ELD has a .467 BC and will obviously outpace both and easily,thus the impetus. Hint. Perhaps dangle a picture,of any/all "Deer" "you" have "shot",with any of your cited Delusions. Hint. 7" RPM Mike Rock 223AI and 75 'Max here,if only for starters. Hint. Said rifle "only" stabilizes/Smooches every projectile pictured here. Hint. The Hornie 75gr HPBT,being "only" 9th,from far right of frame. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Hornie 70 GMX. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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So Stumpy..... I know you are probably drunk as per usual, at least according to Hutch... however, do you keep pics of every deer you shoot, every fish you catch, every string of bullets you make when stoned, every beer you drink, every joint you smoke, every crap you take to include the toilet paper after shots? Do you have a bigger fan than yourself? No one seems to think you are as great as you think as yourself.... HINT... Asking for a friend....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Shefire, There's no need to correlate that you are a Lying Piece Of Clueless Schit,but it's FUNNY...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. congratulations?!? Fhuqking LAUGHING,that you can't produce a single Buck. Hint................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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castnblast - to get back to the point, try your 40's - I'll bet they shoot MUCH better than you expect.
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Don't dog pile me, but the 77 TMK is pretty good if you're stuck with AR mag confines. It kills like crazy but isn't the slickest out there. It is good enough for me to blast steel, deer, coyotes and whatever else I happen to wanna shoot. I stick with it since it all gets loaded on a Dillon and the only think I need to change is the charge weight from the AR to the CTR. The 77TMK is an excellent bullet. I just wish they were as available as the SMK. I can find those very easy at a decent deal, so that is what I keep buying. My new Tikka 22-250 likes them:
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Shefire, There's no need to correlate that you are a Lying Piece Of Clueless Schit,but it's FUNNY...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. congratulations?!? Fhuqking LAUGHING,that you can't produce a single Buck. Hint................ Ya wanna see a BUCK Stumpy.... Look in your wallet, find a dollar bill.... take it out... lay down on the floor, face up this time...)not face down in DogSchitt when you're passed out), Lay it over your cross eyed beady eye balls so you can focus on it... there's a single buck... you want one of mine? drop your mailing address here and I'll send you 4 quarters.. they ought fo Fudk up your 2 brain cell mind... hope your morning hang over isn't too rough on ya Stumpy.. Hutch emailed me the other day and said you were really screwed up until a couple hours after noon time... so he fed himself...took a nice T Bone Steak out of the freezer and broiled it.... then pissed in your cereal bowl and then put it back where you could find it.
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Ok, so defying wind is one of the op's main requirements? No mention of him on how far he will be shooting these yotes and ground squirrels or targets.. Here goes: I shoot a schidt ton of the 69SMK's in my AR's and most of them have the 1 in 8 twist barrel, one has a 1 in 7. Lately I've been shooting them up in my 1 in 9 as well. I'll have to agree with trigernosis on this one, with that bullet choice. It's one competitors have been using for a long time, when shooting out to 600 yards. While I highly doubt the op is going to be shooting 1,100 yards, like some azz hats have suggested here, it may be a possibility. Probably pretty damn slim chances though. That's why I suggested the 77SMK pictured above, or the 77TMK that is like a unicorn right now. As for the 75 BTHP Hornady match. There are a whole lot better bullets out there boys. They fu cking suck donkey balls.. I've had way better luck with the 53 v-max and 73 ELD match, but to each their own. The 69's will punch sub 1" groups at 400 yards, are available (which is a huge bonus!!!!), as will the other bullets I am suggesting here. BTDT, so take that for what it's worth. Good luck to the OP. He may need a weed whacker to cut through all the bs in this thread..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 75 Hornie HPBT is simply fhuqking sensational in consistency,accuracy,terminal effects and relative robustitude,as trips up feedramps go. Not to slight '17kchunt's Imagination and Pretend running rampant,as such things go. She's still trying to get 108's and "the like",going in her 6x45. Hint. Pardon reality. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Thanks to all who wrote helpful replies. I am loading up some 69 gr. Sierra HP Match King bullets with Benchmark and CFE223 and we'll see how they do. Bullet selection is quite slim in our stores around here, so as an alternative I'll also try some Hornady 60 gr. V-Max. with the same powders. I never shoot past 400 yards, so from what I could glean from this thread I think I'll be happy with one of those loads.
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Thanks to all who wrote helpful replies. I am loading up some 69 gr. Sierra HP Match King bullets with Benchmark and CFE223 and we'll see how they do. Bullet selection is quite slim in our stores around here, so as an alternative I'll also try some Hornady 60 gr. V-Max. with the same powders. I never shoot past 400 yards, so from what I could glean from this thread I think I'll be happy with one of those loads. You will be very happy with that 69SMK at 400 yards. It's an excellent projectile that you never hear anything bad about. If that powder doesn't work out well, try RL15 or AR Comp (If you can find it). According to Sierra: ".22 CALIBER 69 GR. HPBT MATCHKING Designed for Service Rifle competition in the M16A2/AR-15A2, our 22 caliber bullets have set an incredible number of new national records."
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 69gr Sierras have a crap BC. I've certainly noticed the difference between those and the Hornady 68 and 75 BTHP. But I shoot a lot in heavy crosswinds at small vermin, and accounting for wind drift is a standard thing. Yeah, the Sierras shoot well, but not as well in the wind. I'd rather shoot the 53 gr V-Max, for about the same BC, and 300 fps faster.
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The 69SMK is simply a steaming pile of fhuqking schit. It's 6th from far left,wearing a fhuqking HILARIOUS .301 BC. Hint. Wind starts at the muzzle. So does velocity retention. BC is the SOLE factor,which skews same. Hint. The 75 Hornie HPBT's BC is vastly fhuqking superior,less a great trade in velocity,due it being but a 6grs of gross mass shift. Fact is,the 75 Hornie flies well enough,to jive 308 trajectories to 1K. Hint. Pardon facts. Hint. As an aside,did '17kchunt's "abilities" allow her to get that 6x45 going with 108's and "the like"?!? HINT. Fortunately for her,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even she can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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75 ELDM and TAC.
My Tikka Varmint shoots them very, very well.
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