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Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
The 550 series is a pretty tough act to follow. CZ made the same mistake as Winchester did in 1964. It will cost them as it did Winchester.

Maybe, but they did it for the same reason Winchester did. The 550 much like the Model 70 was time consuming to manufacture. Both being based off of the 1898 Mauser action. There is a whole mess of machining and hand fitting to make them right. All of that time costs a lot of money. Making the rifle right takes time. Realities of the marketplace. I love the 550s I have 4 of them (6.5x55, 270, 30-06, 375 H&H) but they were starting to get expensive. The real loss at least IMO, was that they stopped making the 550 Safari. Zastava Arms US still makes a 98 style action that is blued with a walnut stock. Time will tell if it takes off among us loonies or not.

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Just my observation but it appears the gun market in general is flooded. The gun "scares" of the Clinton years both hillary and Bill (throw in Barak and Joe) in effect forced folks to buy rifles whether they needed one or not. The simple thinking was I better get one just in case. Then it just sets in a corner or a closet with few places to use it and even fewer places to hunt with it.

I'd like to do some trading but I have mostly AR's. No one wants to give me anything close to what I have in them which means I don't want to complete a trade if I'm going to lose my shirt on the deal. I will just keep the AR and maybe swap the upper for a different caliber. Any future gun buys will be scrutinized greatly before moving ahead. Throw in fewer hunters and available locations to hunt or shoot and this seems to affect demand. It's too bad about CZ not building bolt actions. I have always heard their rifles are tier one.

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Another observation: it would appear to my jaundiced eye that CZ is maximizing the old "form follows function" ideal, and while it may make for a good lively rifle it doesn't fit my sense of aesthetics, so the chances of my ever buying one is slim to none. I know the gun companies aren't waiting with bated breath for my pronouncement, haha, but I'll bet I'm not alone in that sentiment. Probably a moot point as folks like me are starting to age out and it won't matter anyway.

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I always thought the 550 series were huge and clunky. Would make a great safari rifle. But a 243 or 3006 umm no

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That's what I'm talkin about!!

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I bought one (.223) cause I liked the way it handled - glad I did because it is a phenomenal shooter. I worked up a load with 65 grain Sierra GKs and it’ll keep five under 1/2” consistently. Not wild about some of the synthetic parts but other than that seems like a nice rifle. CZ keeps sending me certified letters saying they’d like it back to glue the barrel in…….I won’t be sending it back and may make a few barrels of my own to interchange?

Nothing special about it really though but am very happy with the accuracy.

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Why did they eliminate the "switch barrel" capability? I remember being quite intrigued by the option and was waiting to put eyes on one in person. I have never seen a 600 and now I read it cannot swap barrels. That is a deal breaker for me.


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Originally Posted by cotis
Why did they eliminate the "switch barrel" capability? I remember being quite intrigued by the option and was waiting to put eyes on one in person. I have never seen a 600 and now I read it cannot swap barrels. That is a deal breaker for me.

If the barrel, after inserted into the receiver, was not tightened properly it could move forward creating excessive headspace and potentially allowing the case to rupture (as explained in the certified letters I have received).

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Originally Posted by cotis
Why did they eliminate the "switch barrel" capability? I remember being quite intrigued by the option and was waiting to put eyes on one in person. I have never seen a 600 and now I read it cannot swap barrels. That is a deal breaker for me.

Apparently they discovered that it was possible for them to be assembled in such a way that something bad could happen, resulting in them getting their ass sued off. Maybe that actually happened, maybe not. One would think they’d have figured that out before they started selling them, but that applies to a lot of stuff. If they would make it possible to send them in for the swap, that might salvage some enthusiasm, but that’s not gonna happen here I guess. Looks like all I’ll be buying from them in the future is possibly more magazines, or possibly nothing at all since I have plenty of those already.


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Originally Posted by smithrjd
I would guess buying and revamping Colt is taking a lot of their time and money.

Some rumors online claim that it is the opposite. CZ fans complaining that Colt leadership is taking charge of CZ. And citing Colt's history of problems. I have no idea if that is true or not, but you might find discussions online or on social media.

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Originally Posted by smithrjd
I would guess buying and revamping Colt is taking a lot of their time and money.

Some rumors online claim that it is the opposite. CZ fans complaining that Colt leadership is taking charge of CZ. And citing Colt's history of problems. I have no idea if that is true or not, but you might find discussions online or on social media.

As opposed to reason as that sounds, my company “absorbed” a few other telecoms over the years and seemed to adopt stuff from them that, in my mind anyway, diminished our performance, in particular the quality of service we provided. If their practices were so damn great, why were we able to buy them up, instead of the other way around?

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Originally Posted by cotis
Why did they eliminate the "switch barrel" capability? I remember being quite intrigued by the option and was waiting to put eyes on one in person. I have never seen a 600 and now I read it cannot swap barrels. That is a deal breaker for me.

If the barrel, after inserted into the receiver, was not tightened properly it could move forward creating excessive headspace and potentially allowing the case to rupture (as explained in the certified letters I have received).

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I’m no engineer, but even I can dream up a way to keep that from happening. However this ends up, I’m no longer interested, having moved on to something else.

Another thing I found annoying is that they put a fast twist on the Trail .223 and a 1-9” on the Lux. WTF is with that?


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I think it will turn out fine. Just recommended it as an option to my coworker recently... he wanted CRF. I didn't know about the barrel interchangeability they somewhat botched but overall it looks like a nice rifle for the price. So glad I bought a 527 Rustic in 6.5 Grendel. That sucker is heavy but sweeeeet.

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Ok I finally saw one!! It was a 223 trail model. The plastic comb hits my cheek in the wrong spot. And appears non adjustable. The safety is sorta obscured. The bolt wasn’t that smooth. Totally not impressed. Part of that is the tacticool for. Factor which is rediculous. Bring back the 527 please,!

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