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How about a 444 shortened to meet some states’ requirements.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
How about a 444 shortened to meet some states’ requirements.

I've done the same with a 45-70. It's a PITA! The brass thickens as it gets closer to the head and makes neck/wall turning necessary.


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How about a 444 shortened to meet some states’ requirements.

I've done the same with a 45-70. It's a PITA! The brass thickens as it gets closer to the head and makes neck/wall turning necessary.
444 shortened?

I’d think that a neck trimmer would take care of the 45-70 shortened issue.

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Originally Posted by Bugger
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How about a 444 shortened to meet some states’ requirements.

I've done the same with a 45-70. It's a PITA! The brass thickens as it gets closer to the head and makes neck/wall turning necessary.
444 shortened?

I’d think that a neck trimmer would take care of the 45-70 shortened issue.

Sorry, I just don't see the juice being worth the squeeze. I imagine the 444 would require the same tedious case prep. I would also imagine feeding in a levergun would be complicated by shortened cases. My 45 Colt Marlin wouldn't feed 45 Cowboy brass. I trimmed 45-70 brass down for a single shot rifle.


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My dies arrived today. RCBS made the seating stem flat. For leverguns I see their point, but I'm shooting a single shot and don't want my soft points flattened. For the time being my CH .348 Win seating plug works perfectly. The plug is 1/2-20. I called RCBS and they're sending me a plug for seating FTX bullets. Parts #90018 and #90019 should work according to the rep. Worse case I'll need to drill a relief hole deeper into the plug for bullets with longer soft points. I order a LEE FCD a few days ago.

L-R: 165gr (.355) Hornady FTX, 180gr Fury TCFN, 180gr Hornady SSPB, 185gr NOE LFP.

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Did we ever decide if JES could convert a "worthless " Winchester 94 in 30-30 to this 360 buckhammer cartridge? If so I may have to round up a beater 30-30 though they aren't as many as there used to was. And yes, since they finally got this one correct with. 358" bullets I would certainly be interested.

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He told me no it wouldn't clean up the chamber

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I spoke to the Remington rep at the NRA Convention last weekend. They have sent components to Hodgdon so they can work up load data. Ammunition production started last week and should have started shipping to dealers this week. I was told I'd receive some show samples so I'm eager to see what comes in the mail.


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I have some actual velocity’s from a 20 in Henry using Remington 180 & 200 grain

180gr average 2408 FPS
200gr average 2174 FPS

Henry has a suggestion area on their site
I made a suggestion for a 16inch barreled 360
a Trapper model .. I suggest you guys do the same

I have suggested a Trapper model in 30-30 for 3 years
No dice

I think the Speer 180gr .358 Hot-Cor bullet would be a great choice for the 360 BH .. , maybe Federal will offer it


Also check out the 400 Legend..

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Mike Bellm sent me tracking info on Saturday. My single shot 360 BHMR is done and I'll have it sometime this week. I hope to shoot it this coming weekend.


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I just got a email from MGM my Encore barrel is 2 weeks out and Midway has some .358 200gr spire point flex tip and sp blems on sale,

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I loaded 8 rounds of 360 BHMR this afternoon and hope to test them tomorrow morning. I'm using A1680 and the 180gr Speer HCFN for now. MTF after I shoot them over my chrono.


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Originally Posted by Dinny
I loaded 8 rounds of 360 BHMR this afternoon and hope to test them tomorrow morning. I'm using A1680 and the 180gr Speer HCFN for now. MTF after I shoot them over my chrono.

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A rushed group with 3 shot without and 5 shot with the magnetospeed attached to the barrel. 25yds.


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A rushed group with 3 shot without and 5 shot with the magnetospeed attached to the barrel. 25yds.

That's some good stuff right there.

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A rushed group with 3 shot without and 5 shot with the magnetospeed attached to the barrel. 25yds.

That's some good stuff right there.
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A rushed group with 3 shot without and 5 shot with the magnetospeed attached to the barrel. 25yds.


Oh what's the barrel length and twist rate if you know it ?

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22" long and 1:18.75" twist

Tonight I deprimed and resized the brass I fired today. 35gr sat a bit lower in the case so I loaded 4 with 35.5gr and 4 with 36.0gr. I also formed 10 other pieces to try with Fed 215 LRM primers just to see if it makes a difference.


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What brass did you end up using

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Originally Posted by Dinny
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A rushed group with 3 shot without and 5 shot with the magnetospeed attached to the barrel. 25yds.

Very cool 👍 Looks really good for initial throw together loads... betting you'll be able to squeeze some cloverleafs out of that barrel with some fiddling.

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Originally Posted by Rich44
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What brass did you end up using


Mixed brands of 30-30 Win.


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