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Has anyone here built one? Thoughts?

My use would be shooting steel to 500 yards. But sometimes in a match the steel has to react (spin) and .223s struggle. I figure a 103grain at 2600 will make a huge difference over a 75 at 2400. My restrictions would be a small frame lower, factory ammo, with a muzzle velocity less than 3K.

I did for for my kid. Pretty badass rifle, shot really well IMO.

Using starline Grendel brass, resized. m4E1 upper/handguard. WC barrel.

Struggled with powders. Wasn’t willing to trade consistency/temp stability for what is actually a bunch of velocity. 8200xbr at 2450 was consistent but lever/CFE gets way more speed. The high end velocities folks talk about aren’t possible with varget or XBR.

Kid shot her buck in 100 deg weather hence the concern and use of the xbr.

Hoping the new Staball match fills the gap.

I keep thinking about one but not until I see some more brass popping up.


Should be an excellent coyote/deer cartridge.

I have one.
I have enough brass to last a long time.
It's not hard to make it out of 6.5 Grendel brass.
I'm getting 2675 fps with a 105gr bthp, and 29.5grs of leverevolution. Iirc, I was holding 4 mils to hit a plate at 850 yards.

Such a short barrel to be going that slow with a 75 in 223? 20 inch tubes should be able to hit 2750 really easy... and that should make a difference. You may be well under even 16 though.

A hornady 105 bthp at 2529 fps retains 747 foot pounds of energy at 500 yards, and drops 57.4 inches at 500, according to my notes.

Hornady 105s are probably capable of more but my particular 22 inch barrel did not like them pushed fast. Your mileage may vary.

Just double checked. I’m at 2450 with my 14.5, which is the longest I shoot anymore.

I built one for the son a few months back. He bought a Proof carbon barrel. Tried to talk him into a lesser expensive barrel, but he insisted on that one. I tried 103 ELD-X with both Lever and 2520. The 2520 shot better, but at a lower charge weight. I have not run those loads over a chrono yet. With a suppressor, it seems a lot quieter than a 223 AR.

He did shoot a buck with that rifle and it worked very well.

I never tried 103s as best I can remember but I had good luck with 108 ELDs.

4 mils at 850?

with what a 500 yard zero at 8000 feet in the summer

Yep, I put together a heavy 21" ARC and then, later a lightweight 18" ARC. With loads for both, I've landed right in that 29.2gr - 29.5gr LVR sweet spot with bullets 100 gr and over.

Gotta say, I really like the cartridge, especially in the lightweight 18" rifle, it's set up for hunting, but I've run the 21" out to 1,250 yds. It was sucking wind there, but was more convincing at 1k, and was hammering at 750. This cartridge predictably does well with longer gas systems, I have a RLGS on my 18" and a +2 on my 21", I think Proof uses +1 for their 18".

I've been shooting mine suppressed, and as someone else mentioned, the round seems unusually quiet when suppressed. Don't know what it is, but I've had several people walk up at the range and remark on how quiet those rifles are, maybe it's because they hit steel pretty hard and the mismatch between muzzle report and impact is what folks are hearing.

Here are the velocities I've chrono'd recently out of the 18"

95gr SST, 29.5gr LVR - 2,676 fps, 2,680 fps
100gr TGK, 29.3gr LVR - 2,676 fps, 2,665 fps
108gr ELDm, 29.3gr LVR - 2,650 fps, 2,634 fps

I started development with 90gr TGKs last trip and shot this spread, probably going to focus in the area around 30.5gr.
90gr TGK + LVR
30.4gr - 2,802 fps
30.7gr - 2,834 fps
31gr - 2,874 fps
31.3gr - 2,935 fps

18" w/lightweight X-Caliber barrel


Switched to a hunting scope and lighter can after some load development.


Have been able to pretty consistently source 108gr ELD factory, and the rifle seems to like it.

I built one shortly after Brownells had the Brownells labeled Faxson barrels in stock. It’s only a 1:8 twist, but it works ok. These barrels seem to be hit or miss, but I’ve had good luck with it. I do wish I would have waited and gotten a better and a little longer barrel though.
I’ve had my best accuracy from 95 gr. Bullets and Accurate 2520 and LVRevolution.

Thanks for posting what you're doing with this - it's an interesting round. I'd be interested in one in a bolt gun. Seems like a good, slippery, long range round with better barrel life than say a 6 Creed? Tho I know - barrels are made every day and to be shot out. lol.

Got a 700 LA laying around?

Not my cup of tea but I look for Ruger to have one in an American, whether Ranch or Predator.

I will probably build one for myself later this year. I have another 6mm CM to build first.

Anyone have experience with the Odin Works barrels? I see that they have 6 ARC, but no knowledge of any of their barrels. I do have their AGBs on some ARs.

My first 6mm ARC barrel is the 21" Odin, it hasn't been bad, groups 108gr ELD factory around 3/4", but it's such a pig, I probably wouldn't get it again. After shooting the round a bit and running it pretty far out, I liked the velocities I was getting with good bullet weights and figured it would make a nice hunting carbine cartridge, with a lighter barrel.

WC came out with their AR barrel at that point, I ordered one with RLGS but due to some kind of insanity they decided to cancel that version and only sell the MLGS version, which I wanted no part of on an 18" shooting 30gr of LVR/CFE suppressed.

All that to say, the Odin 21" isn't bad, but if you want something toteable, you'll have to look elsewhere and there aren't a whole lot of factory options. I wound up ordering my RLGS 18" lightweight contour from X-Caliber when they had a sale and it has been exactly what I was looking for, and pretty good price wise. I definitely would not get Odin's 18", as unless they've changed it it comes with a +2 gas system, and that's too much of a good thing, lots of complaints from owners trying to get them to run.

Proof was in on the SAAMI development of the 6mm ARC and offer a variety of chunky steel, or carbon barrels in the chambering. Faxon and BA offer barrels, but reviews on accuracy are mixed. I'd guess other makers have probably started offering the ARC since I was last looking.

Ndbowhunter,
I said "IIRC"...
Been since last year that I've been behind a rifle stock.
Will be a bit longer still too.
I'll have to check drop charts to come to present mind on what I was doing.
Oxycodone has a way to fog the mind, and not remember things too well.
Excuse me for saying iirc...

Thanks for the info. Guess I will pass on the Odin and keep an eye on the x-caliber barrels. Son’s Proof carbon with an AGB was easy to get running.

I notice that CLE has 6 ARC barrels.

I have three rifles in 6ARC. The savage 110 Switchback from Sportsmans. It’s a shooter with the Hornady Black 105gr BTHP. The magazine sucks as does the extraction and ejection. Two ARs. First one is a Ballistic Advantage 20”. Found a 1/2” load pretty easily with 87 Vmax and Lever. 2nd is a Faxon 20” match black. I haven’t yet worked up a load for it but it shoots cloverleafs with factory precision hunter 103eldx. I guess I got lucky with the cheap barrels. I bought whatever ammo I could off the shelf to get brass and ended up with a good mix of the Black, Match and Precision Hunter. Definitely looking forward to brass being available on its own.

I hear nothing but good things about the ARC and it looks like the ideal chambering for the AR15 platform. I’ve said it a thousand times but for me I don’t care for the 5.56/.223 and only have 1 in my battery and that’s only because it’s such a common round used by NATO. The other ones are 7.62x39..308..6.5G..etc. The Grendel just “happened”….actually an ex mil guy that I’m casual friends with has been having a lot of fun with the grendel so I’m trying it and liking it except that I think the ARC makes more sense ballistically speaking for my uses.

I do appreciate all the firsthand information about both calibers from guys that have “BTDT” with the newer offerings. 👍🏼

Anyone with experience with the Rainier Arms 6 ARC barrels?

Anyone tried a load of lighter weight bullets in the ARC? Something in the 70s or so, curious if you could get consistent accuracy with speed since it was designed around the longer heavies?

For any purpose less than benchrest, light bullets are never a problem accuracy-wise. The only problem you might encounter is if they are lightly constructed and the fast twist shreds them. I've had that problem with bullets like the Hornady SX and the Sierra Blitz but not with other light bullets.

I did load up some test loads for the son with 87 gr. Vmax. Be a bit before I can get the loads to him to test.

I've loaded 90-grain ELD-Xs in the 6mmAR, which is almost the same thing (shoulder is a little taller than the ARC round). I think 31.0 to 31.5 of LVR wanted to shoot but that was the only time I messed with it, and I did not chronograph.

Would a berger 95vld be problematic in ar platform for COAL?

Id wager the Berger 95 VLD would be a fine candidate for the 6mm ARC. ARC was designed to function well with long slender 103 gr to 108 grain bullets. though does very well with lighter projectiles as well.

load accordingly for gas gun or bolt gun pressures & good results may be expected with a variety of propellants.

Bolt gun example below with a slow yet respectable target loads.

Just didn’t know if length was a issue for the vld style bullets in the 6arc ar15 style mags

I built one using one the brownells faxon barrels. It was 18inch with mid length gas tube. What I know now I should’ve waited and bought a 20 inch barrel with rifle length gas tube better yet one with rifle +2 length. Mine was way over gassed ended up putting a gas block on it. One day it would shoot cloverleaf 5 shot groups. Next day same load shoot like chit. I tried leverevolution, varget, like is said shoot good one day horrible the next. I chit canned it sold the upper to a buddy with bolt for $100 bucks I told him the issues he didn’t care. When it would shoot it shot 95gr Berger VLD’s very well. I keep hoping Ben at Bison Armory will start chambering the 6 ARC soon as he does I will get back in the AR15 6 ARC game. I do have a savage 110 switchback in one I shot couple times as stated the magazine on them suck bad.

Got most of the parts and pieces here to put a 6ARC upper together. BA 18" and Superlative AGB should be here tomorrow. Got 200 rnds of 103ELD-X to start with. Based on what I'm hearing though I'll probably load 100 Sierras or Hornady 100 BTSP. Hornady's Black and ELD - X and M are proving to be explosive on 'yotes and somewhat less than lethal on hogs.

Anyone using the JP SCS on a 6ARC 18" RLGS, 'standard' weight BCG, and suppressed? If so, which model SCS and did you have play with springs?

You’ll have a blast. I love my 18” Aero upper. It’s been accurate with the 105 and 108 Hornadys. Decent with the 103’s. I liked it so much I snagged one of the Howas as well. Still ringing that one out but it’s just a fun cartridge. I kinda think of it as a heavy 5.56. 105 class bullets about the same speed and BC as a 5.56 with 75-77’ish class without much extra recoil.

Here is mine. Shoots 108gr ELD Match factory under a 1" at 200yds

I purchased a 6mm ARC Odin works 21" xl rifle length gas system w/ bolt carrier and adjustable gas block combo. I ran into some issues with it cycling the next round had to buy a reduced power spring and tweaked the gas block for it to run right. It cycled ok after that.. I wanted to run a jp spring instead so I ended up drilling the gas tube port hole a little bigger, I put an old cleaning rod inside the barrel as a stop after it was done i installed jp spring tweaked gas block again after that it and VOILA! ran flawlessly. I'm shooting .43" inch groups all day with 107 Sierra match kings charged with LEVERevolution 29.3.. powder is dirty though going to try out Winchester staball match soon, work up a load with that. But over all I am satisfied with the barrel after the bigger port hole was drilled bigger, I emailed ODIN and told them they need to fix that issue.







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Mines an 18" stainless nitride ballistic advantage barrel on an areo m4e1 upper and lower and 15" m1 handgaurd. I went with the fixed gen 3 prs mag pul target stock and adjustable triggertech trigger. It has a bushnell dmr2 3.5-21×50 on it.

I haven't been that impressed with the accuracy so far but I've just been shooting factory Hornady to make brass. I need to dig it out of the safe and try some handloads. It's been mostly in the 1-1.5 moa range with factory stuff.

My old 6.5 grendel 18" black hole weaponry 3 groove has spoiled me. It shoots 123 amax Amp bullets into one ragged hole and does it consistently unless I'm shooting bad that day. I bought over 5000 of those bullets when they switched to eldms at a pretty good discount from a local dealer. I sold a few to fire members to help them out and shot several hundred but I've still got maybe 3000 left.

I was hoping my arc would shoot like my grendel but it's no where close yet. I'd like to get a mini howa in arc for my kids. My 10 year old still thought the grendel kicked more than he wanted. He's got a cow tag this year so I think the grendel may be better for that anyways. I could load him some 100g ttsx or 100g partitions and he might like them better. Last year I loaded 129g ablrs because we were in an area where shots can be long and I wanted a bullet that would open at longer range with grendel speeds.

I'm not going to let him take a linger shot at elk with such a small round so I don't need to worry as much about bc and low expansion velocities.

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