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My old M77 30-06 favors 165 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips with 56 gr IMR4350. Your load will be just fine with proper shot placement, reasonable range and assuming your rifle likes your load.

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If you have a 30-06 that does not shoot well with a 165 gr whatever and 56-57.5 of IMR 4350 I would sell it.


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My load was 56.5 grains of IMR 4350, Win primer & 180 grain Hornady interlock spire point. Before I reloaded I used either 180 grain factory Winchester or Remington.

If you rifle likes 165---pretty sure the elk will be just as dead.

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A couple of years ago I hit a cow elk that was facing me in the center of the chest with a 165 grain Partition pushed along by IMR 4350 with the range around 200 yards or so. Elk immediately collapsed. I did not find the bullet but found where it stopped, in the right side tenderloin.
For me that is enough penetration.

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Originally Posted by kenjs1
Can you even find H4350? I was using IMR then couldn't find any and went to Hodgdon and loved it but now had to try Accurate ....so far not with great results but also had to try something other than Sierra.

H-4350 and Big Game have shown up here. Its the first time I've ever seen big game around here.

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I load 165gr Corelokts or Hornady 165gr flat base over 56gr of H4350. I used to load IMR 4350. I get 308 165gr velocity. How it will will work on elk I can't say but it works great for deer.

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Originally Posted by DaveinWV
I load 56gr of H4350 over 165gr Corelokts or Hornady 165gr flat base.

Powder OVER bullet? How does that work out?


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Originally Posted by T_O_M
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I load 56gr of H4350 over 165gr Corelokts or Hornady 165gr flat base.

Powder OVER bullet? How does that work out?

It ignites sending the bullet into the bolt face, the ricochet forward toward the target. I've heard this approach degrades accuracy a tad bit 😊



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For many years I used 58.5 grains of IMR4350 and the 165-grain Partition in my Ultra Light Arms Model 24, on a wide variety of big game. This may seem like an "overload" to some (Nosler has listed 57.0 as maximum for decades) but during a project for Handloader magazine I worked up loads for three rifles in different chamberings, using the "pressure indicators" many use. None of the loads showed any of such indications, including the .30-06 load, whether "excessively flattened" primers, difficult opening of the action, or anything else.

Then I had all four loads tested at the piezo pressure lab at Western Powders in Miles City, Montana. The .30-06 load averaged 58,800 PSI, well below the SAAMI .30-06 rating of 60,000 PSI average maximum pressure. Oh, and 3-shot groups at 100 yards still average 3/4" at 100 yards, despite nearly 1000 rounds down the barrel, at 2935 fps from the 24" barrel.


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Not too good! blush


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With the right bullet and powder charge its the go anywhere and do anything for most people load.


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Originally Posted by baldhunter
Here ya go.Some great advice from our Mule Deer
https://kristian555.livejournal.com/27291.html

Great article from years ago, still a mighty fine guide to loading the 30-06 for hunting.

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As others have eluded to that bullet is no good. It will absolutely bounce right off the elk even at close range. Why we weren't covered up with elk before the Partition or Barnes X bullets were invented is anyone's guess.



Please post pictures of his successful kill later after the hunt. wink


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Usual bs. Sight in and go kill elk. Partitions on the next trip would improve a bit if a less than perfect shot shows up. I have killed a bunch of elk with Sierra 165hpbt and 150 gr. BTBT. Now I usually use a Accubond or Part.


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I killed a couple of deer with 56.5gr and a Sierra 165gr Gameking HP, but wouldn’t choose that particular bullet for elk, though a man I once worked for did, and it worked for him. At the woods ranges I used it, it was very destructive. Not sure exactly what bullet the OP is talking about, but that charge level seemed mild and shot well for me.


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That bullet and load should work just fine. Just shoot it behind the shoulder, keep the range und 1/4 mile and go get your knife ready.


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For 20 years living in British Columbia I ran one load in my only centerfire rifle, a 30-06:

165 grain Sierra, 56 grains IMR 4350, CCI Magnum primers, one batch of Federal brass that I loaded over and over with a Lee Loader and an Ohaus 5-0-5 scale. That load would group about 5/8 inch all day long, any number of rounds. I didn’t have a chronograph, and went for accuracy over velocity. This “middle range charge” was the most accurate of those tested from 53 to 59 grains. It killed a pile of game.

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One man - one rifle - one load - one pile 'o critters grin

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Originally Posted by jwp475
I've now replaced 4350 with Ramshot Hunter, excellent accuracy higher velocity and lower pressures


Just curious, but how temp stable is Hunter?

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I say head for the Lodgepoles and work the higher basins.

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