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Originally Posted by Sharpsman

sharps, that's a heck of a buck. congrats!


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Originally Posted by Higginez
Kimber Montana .223AI out to 1,350 and can easily spot hits and misses on steel with good technique behind the rifle and a bit of thought put into setting up targets.

Brake on a .223? TFF
You must have your gun anchored down or shooting a heavy rifle. My guns jump high right everytime I have spotted my shots with a .223 sometimes but never with a .223ai. My guns are all 9lb and under and I shoot in hunter class.


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Prairie goat gave you the best answer to your question, there is....
To take it a step further, to practice for .22, shoot a quality air gun..

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Higginez
Kimber Montana .223AI out to 1,350 and can easily spot hits and misses on steel with good technique behind the rifle and a bit of thought put into setting up targets.

Brake on a .223? TFF
You must have your gun anchored down or shooting a heavy rifle. My guns jump high right everytime I have spotted my shots with a .223 sometimes but never with a .223ai. My guns are all 9lb and under and I shoot in hunter class.

I was shooting the braked 223AI today. As always, super easy to spot my shots. Where I shoot (coast range clearcuts) you take what you can get in terms of the surface of the target area but what you DON’T get is clean dirt or rocks like in many other regions. Lots of organic matter…. Having done it both ways, I can say I *know* how easy that cute lil’ brake makes things.

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Originally Posted by jpretle
Prairie goat gave you the best answer to your question, there is....
To take it a step further, to practice for .22, shoot a quality air gun..

Seasons ago, I took my CZ 452 out and was shooting targets at 100 yds with 22 LR, Federal 550 count boxes.

I'd shoot a 100 rounds per outing, just in the woods, 1/2 mile from the house.

25 rounds at each target, from various positions. Do that, give a rest a day or two, and then do it again. Changed things up here and there. I certainly could tell ya, how much smaller my groups became in just two weeks.

Burnt up two of those boxes in a little over 2 weeks, 1100 rounds.

Certainly was some good practicing, for cheap in those days... that was when you could get a box of 550 rounds from Federal, for like $8.99. That ship sailed a long time ago.


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Originally Posted by BRSnow
Hi, what would be the best for cost efficiencies for practice if you didn’t plan on reloading for it? I certainly realize reloading would be best, but time is a premium and I rather spend it at the range. Appreciate it.
Given these specs, how can a Ruger American Rifle be beaten? 223.


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Do they have good aftermarket triggers available? That’s critical IMHO.


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Timney makes one and it’s very good.

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Excellent. Got a customer who I take shootin’ who likes my .223AI and wants a rifle. He won’t do an AR for political reasons. I’m gonna send him a link to the Ruger. They are generally off my radar as I frankly don’t associate the brand with high quality or accuracy- which may not be fair.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Excellent. Got a customer who I take shootin’ who likes my .223AI and wants a rifle. He won’t do an AR for political reasons. I’m gonna send him a link to the Ruger. They are generally off my radar as I frankly don’t associate the brand with high quality or accuracy- which may not be fair.
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Even a Newbie to distance, can do quite a bit, even with a 15 inch 223 Remington. I had fun spotting for him.


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Even better with a 223AI! I love mine; my recoil-sensitive daughters absolutely adore it. I run 75 EDLM’s but I think Stick has ID’d something a skootch better yet.


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and some are still dumb enough to be a proud Democrat..

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good points

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