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Have an older (2007) King Quad 450.
I don't run it a whole lot. So, maybe it's my fault. But I gotta get a new battery for it every other year. One of the last ones was the cheapest one eBay had. The one in it now is (I think) a MotoBat from an auto electric repair shop that also deals Interstate. It was twice the price. Neither one outlasted the other.
IS there an ATV battery that is better than any of the others??
Was in Wally World today and was gonna grab one there. But, they only carry one for a 2009 model and newer.
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Maybe you need to get a battery tender to keep it topped up. Also, check the charging voltage. It might be over or under charging and damaging the batteries.
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I buy Interstate, last 5 years or so
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Odyssey if they make it for your model and Yuasa if they don't. That's all I will use in touring bikes and orv's.
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As said before, a tender will add quite a bit of life. I like the Noco Genius tender/ maintainer.
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I use an Absorbent Glass Mat battery to keep from spilling acid if you get into unusual attitudes or dump your ATV.
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Battery tender. Get the plug in connectors that hook directly to the battery and add plugs on on other toys/equipment. Makes it easy to rotate it.
I have a couple that rotates between motorcycle, tractors, quads, even throw it on the truck sometimes when I'm not running it much.
Makes a big difference in my opinion.
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As said before, a tender will add quite a bit of life. I like the Noco Genius tender/ maintainer. What he said ^^^^^^^^^ Noco offers this eyelet that is attached to the battery Simply plug in your Noco charger to the connector and keep 1 amp charger hoodked up My Kawasaki Teryx battery is in a PIA location...so when the factory battery died last year (4 YO) Connected the eyelet to new battery for easy breezy hook up....Noco is on it right now Replacement came from the TSC https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/traveller-u1-340-rider-mower-battery?cm_vc=-10005
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Odyssey if they make it for your model and Yuasa if they don't. That's all I will use in touring bikes and orv's. I buy Parts Unlimited atv batteries which are made by Yuasa with heavier plates. Get a model of battery tender that has automatic desulfating. The Battery Tender brand uses the same plug as my ATV so I can plug directly to the harness. The Genius tender has a different plug and didn't last nearly as long for me.
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Newer machines wont start or run if the battery is not at proper voltage. I have a 2001 Polaris Big boss 6X6 that sits outside tarped under the deck, in Alaska. I have a battery tender that I plug in about every 2 weeks for several days and start the machine once a month.
Don't trust the battery tenders for continual use have seen to many battery fires. Thinking my battery is 5 or 6 years old and a pain to change.
Wish I had a shop for all my wheelers and boats!
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CTEK makes a great battery maintainer. 4.3A max charge, but self regulating and will shut of when the battery is charged and trickle charge for maintenance. BMW and Porsche both sell them with their brand names on them as accessories. I have 3 of them, one for each collector Bimmer and one for my Pioneer. Been using them for years.
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Whatever one is in my Can-Am 450. It's 5 years old and that MF'r will start at -15 F.
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CTEK makes a great battery maintainer. 4.3A max charge, but self regulating and will shut of when the battery is charged and trickle charge for maintenance. BMW and Porsche both sell them with their brand names on them as accessories. I have 3 of them, one for each collector Bimmer and one for my Pioneer. Been using them for years. After a lot of research, I'm a CTEK fan and have been for years. I've got 3 of them.
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Newer machines wont start or run if the battery is not at proper voltage. I have a 2001 Polaris Big boss 6X6 that sits outside tarped under the deck, in Alaska. I have a battery tender that I plug in about every 2 weeks for several days and start the machine once a month.
Don't trust the battery tenders for continual use have seen to many battery fires. Thinking my battery is 5 or 6 years old and a pain to change.
Wish I had a shop for all my wheelers and boats! If access for charging is the problem, get a couple lengths of heavy wire, put clamp rings on one end and attach them to the battery. Run the other ends to where it's convenience to clamp on a charger and figure out a way to mount them where they're protected from being shorted. On a camp trailer, I used extension cord ends. I just hook my solar panels to one and plug them together.
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Newer machines wont start or run if the battery is not at proper voltage. I have a 2001 Polaris Big boss 6X6 that sits outside tarped under the deck, in Alaska. I have a battery tender that I plug in about every 2 weeks for several days and start the machine once a month.
Don't trust the battery tenders for continual use have seen to many battery fires. Thinking my battery is 5 or 6 years old and a pain to change.
Wish I had a shop for all my wheelers and boats! If access for charging is the problem, get a couple lengths of heavy wire, put clamp rings on one end and attach them to the battery. Run the other ends to where it's convenience to clamp on a charger and figure out a way to mount them where they're protected from being shorted. On a camp trailer, I used extension cord ends. I just hook my solar panels to one and plug them together. Had a solar charger regulator short out and burn my boat top off, lucky to not burn the boat!! Every thing now has a in line fuse to the battery, bud had a small battery charger start a fire on a battery he was charging big shop was almost done and a contractor saw it and threw it outside. I am leary now of leaving a battery tender in continous use esp the cheap ones!!! Re read the solar charger regulator shorted out and caused the fire supposed to be fused? I want a fuse in the 12 volt line dont want any more fires!
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Newer machines wont start or run if the battery is not at proper voltage. I have a 2001 Polaris Big boss 6X6 that sits outside tarped under the deck, in Alaska. I have a battery tender that I plug in about every 2 weeks for several days and start the machine once a month.
Don't trust the battery tenders for continual use have seen to many battery fires. Thinking my battery is 5 or 6 years old and a pain to change.
Wish I had a shop for all my wheelers and boats! If access for charging is the problem, get a couple lengths of heavy wire, put clamp rings on one end and attach them to the battery. Run the other ends to where it's convenience to clamp on a charger and figure out a way to mount them where they're protected from being shorted. On a camp trailer, I used extension cord ends. I just hook my solar panels to one and plug them together. Had a solar charger regulator short out and burn my boat top off, lucky to not burn the boat!! Every thing now has a in line fuse to the battery, bud had a small battery charger start a fire on a battery he was charging big shop was almost done and a contractor saw it and threw it outside. I am leary now of leaving a battery tender in continous use esp the cheap ones!!! Fuses are designed into Battery Tender brand battery leads.
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You need to do the Ground mod 1st than the bat tender.... and each time you start it ..it would take 20mins of run time to replace the power needed to start... my 1.50 worth of info.
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All my small engine batteries (atvs, motorcycle, lawn tractor, standby generator, etc) get changed to absorbed glass mat (AGM) types first time they get a new battery. Better vibration tolerance, slower self discharge, no leakage if you have to turn them on side to install. They cost sometimes double that of a standard lead acid, but worth it to me.
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But does an AGM battery outlast a regular lead acid battery in an ATV? The Polaris is completely dead after four years even on at maintainer and it is a royal pain to replace that battery in the old Sportsman 400. Even on year three I couldnβt trust it and carried a Noco GB40 jump starting booster. The Kawasaki battery is under the seat where it should be and is a five minute change. Not so that Polaris.
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AGM's did not last any longer than regular lead acid batts for me. The Lithium batt is holding up fantastic though.
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But does an AGM battery outlast a regular lead acid battery in an ATV? The Polaris is completely dead after four years even on at maintainer and it is a royal pain to replace that battery in the old Sportsman 400. Even on year three I couldnβt trust it and carried a Noco GB40 jump starting booster. The Kawasaki battery is under the seat where it should be and is a five minute change. Not so that Polaris. Has for me - 2009 Polaris Sportsman, OEM battery 5 yrs, replacement AGM 9 yrs and counting. Also had a 2004 Sportsman until fall of 2020 - 3 batteries: 1st two Polaris sourced lead acid, 3 to 5 yrs each. 3rd batt AGM, still going strong when I traded in the machine.
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AGM's did not last any longer than regular lead acid batts for me. The Lithium batt is holding up fantastic though. Lithium starter batteries not a good match where I am - poorer cold weather performance, although basing that on web research not actual use. My NOCO lithium jump starter won't work below zero - self protection settings shut it off. AGMs have worked into minus 15-20F range no problem, haven't tried colder recently.
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harley davidson uses agm batteries and i found them to last usually 6-9 years with a 8 month riding season when kept on a tender...far longer than any lead acid battery over my 38 years working in a dealership
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AGM's did not last any longer than regular lead acid batts for me. The Lithium batt is holding up fantastic though. Lithium starter batteries not a good match where I am - poorer cold weather performance, although basing that on web research not actual use. My NOCO lithium jump starter won't work below zero - self protection settings shut it off. AGMs have worked into minus 15-20F range no problem, haven't tried colder recently. I wouldn't have a Li starting battery in cold areas just for that reason. You can't charge them in the cold. They have a built-in battery acquaintance system that shuts down the recharging when it's too cold.
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LiPo4 battery I have on my camper has a heating pad inside. It will warm up enough to take a charge from a solar panel on a sub-freezing but sunny day.
AGM working well with the Honda ATV.
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Battery Tender has kept me from buying a new battery every year. I even run a tender on my mower now.
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My Polaris UTV had a Polaris labeled OEM battery that lasted 11 years amazingly. It finally crapped out a few weeks ago. Walmart has several levels of Everstart AGM's. I got the one with 385 CCA. The other's are 310 and lower. If it could start in gear, it would lay rubber. Now we'll see how long it lasts. I've had very good luck with Everstarts in other vehicles. I use it for plowing snow so it gets some use in cold weather. We'll have some extended periods with no snow so I run it a few miles every few weeks to get the engine hot and charge up the battery. It also throws some oil around in the gears so they don't sit dry for months on end.
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AGM's did not last any longer than regular lead acid batts for me. The Lithium batt is holding up fantastic though. Lithium starter batteries not a good match where I am - poorer cold weather performance, although basing that on web research not actual use. My NOCO lithium jump starter won't work below zero - self protection settings shut it off. AGMs have worked into minus 15-20F range no problem, haven't tried colder recently. I wouldn't have a Li starting battery in cold areas just for that reason. You can't charge them in the cold. They have a built-in battery acquaintance system that shuts down the recharging when it's too cold. Cold areas can be a problem for the lithium batteries if you don't have a heating pad. Just switched my 2008 Honda Rancher and 2012 Yamaha Zuma over to lithium batteries. I was shocked how much lighter they were. I thought they were empty or something. They are much more robust and should last a lot longer. They do take a special charger which I like because it is a lot lighter. I switched my race car over to two lithium 16 volt batteries from two 16 volt AGM and they work a lot better. Have tons more capacity for the late rounds and recharge a lot quicker. The charger weighs about a tenth of what my 16 volt charger does also. Need to switch my RV over to a big lithium house battery for the overnight usage so I don't have to run the generator so much.
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from Wikipedia: Interstate Battery System of America, Inc., a.k.a. Interstate Batteries, is a US privately owned battery marketing and distribution company. It markets automotive batteries manufactured by Brookfield Business Partners, Exide Technologies, and others through independent distributors. Like all of the others, Interstate buys their batteries and has their label put on them. They don't make anything.
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from Wikipedia: Interstate Battery System of America, Inc., a.k.a. Interstate Batteries, is a US privately owned battery marketing and distribution company. It markets automotive batteries manufactured by Brookfield Business Partners, Exide Technologies, and others through independent distributors. Like all of the others, Interstate buys their batteries and has their label put on them. They don't make anything. Well, learn me sumpthin
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Just don't buy a Smart Start AGM or whatever house brand O'Reilly's sells. Bought one and had it go dead in 2 days. Wouldn't give a refund on it so exchanged it. That one lasted a week or so. Used it about 3 months by hooking it up to a tender every night until even that wasn't enough to get it through the day. Finally took it back and made them refund it under warranty. Nothing but a headache.
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AGM ATV batteries are lucky to last 2 years in our Alaska cold, lead acid I got around 5 years in same conditions, both kept charged 2 times a month with a battery tender. Had 2 AGM Batteries fail in 2 years and both would not start the machine or keep it running after they were recharged, never had that issue with older lead acid batteries.
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Just don't buy a Smart Start AGM or whatever house brand O'Reilly's sells. Bought one and had it go dead in 2 days. Wouldn't give a refund on it so exchanged it. That one lasted a week or so. Used it about 3 months by hooking it up to a tender every night until even that wasn't enough to get it through the day. Finally took it back and made them refund it under warranty. Nothing but a headache. I have never seen a Super Start battery from O'Reilly last long at all. Some brag on the warranty but that doesn't do a guy any good when he is dead in the water in the middle of BFE and no help around.
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