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Furthermore, they are not quiet! DEFINITELY not in an XP-100 !!!!
Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.
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I've had L461 Vixens in 221, 222, and 223. The 221 was a nice idea but not worth it after the honeymoon. Furthermore, they are not quiet! A 223 with a mild but full power, or a Blue Dot load turned out to be much more practical and satisfying, but then again, I'm not wanting to have a large collection of rifles that require diagnosis to get them to shoot their best. In my view, Blue Dot in a 223 made the Hornet and 221 unnecessary. I'd stay away from those Blue Dot loads.... As many folks around here will tell ya " you'll shoot your eye out kid!" Ask Ralphie...
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Campfire Outfitter
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I've had L461 Vixens in 221, 222, and 223. The 221 was a nice idea but not worth it after the honeymoon. Furthermore, they are not quiet! A 223 with a mild but full power, or a Blue Dot load turned out to be much more practical and satisfying, but then again, I'm not wanting to have a large collection of rifles that require diagnosis to get them to shoot their best. In my view, Blue Dot in a 223 made the Hornet and 221 unnecessary. I'd stay away from those Blue Dot loads.... As many folks around here will tell ya " you'll shoot your eye out kid!" Ask Ralphie...  I just started reading about the Blue Dot loads recently, and it's made me change my direction. I was going to rebarrel my sako vixen to. 221, but now I'm just going to stick with. 223's.
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[/quote] I just started reading about the Blue Dot loads recently, and it's made me change my direction. I was going to rebarrel my sako vixen to. 221, but now I'm just going to stick with. 223's.[/quote] No regrets. Can't believe how long the barrel stays cool with Blue Dot. Also, if you are lucky, the full power loads will be on at 200 yds and the reduced loads more or less on at 100.
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That's kind of funny to see my first impression of Blue Dot in 223 verified 20 years later. I was thinking "hot Hornet" and decided right then and there I didn't need a Hornet or K with Blue Dot.
And the 221 sort of does the same thing, with Lil Gun it's a snarling hot Hornet or a real nice regular (Blue Dot) Hornet without the brass issues or the rim. But what a nice sleeper of a cartridge to work with, right?
Up hills slow,
Down hills fast
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I hope he bought the stupid thing.
Did he?
I have 5 I think. Yep...5.
I could use a few more.
I am MAGA.
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Save the money. Brass is expensive. Load your 223 to 221 data . Invest a few bucks in a Redding form die and make use of all the free FC military brass filling range used brass buckets. A bit of work but I find it enjoyable and the resulting brass is of very high quality. I start with cleaned and annealed brass sorted by date stamp and weight and run them through the form die, lopping off the excess with a hacksaw and trimming on my Wilson trimmer. I don't think it is really necessary unless you have a very tight neck in your rifle but I put in a bit of extra effort and very lightly turn the necks, debur flash holes, clean up primer pockets and then anneal and clean again before loading. Has resulted in very high quality brass that my Fireball really seems to like.
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Jim Conrad: If you don't mind my asking which brands and models of 221 Fireball Rifles are in your arsenal.
I have two - one is a very accurate Remington 700 Classic and the other is a Kimber of Oregon heavy barrel "Ultra-Varmint" which is also VERY accurate.
I think the 221 Remington Fireball is an "inherently accurate" cartridge!
Hold into the wind
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