24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
I have a Model 60 and a CZ 452 that really like Dynapoints, but like a lot of things these days, they are in short supply. I went searching through my rimfire stuff and discovered a hidden cache of rimfire goodies!

Most of this stuff was purchased at least ten years ago. Some even farther back. In these boxes I found 2 boxes of the bulk Dynapoints. One was unopened. The other was about half full. The paper wrapped ammunition in the second photo is surplus 7.62x54r. I don't remember putting it there.

Are Dynapoints readily available in the US? I see they are still listed by Winchester

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
GB1

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,739
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,739
Clearly, you’re not shooting enough. Get busy.


What fresh Hell is this?
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,009
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,009
I haven't seen Dynapoints for a long time. One thing I noticed about them was they shot really well, but POI was always shifted quite a bit horizontally vs. other ammo. That was with 22WMR and 22lr ammo.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Clearly, you’re not shooting enough. Get busy.

I will have to make more of an effort. 🙃

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I haven't seen Dynapoints for a long time. One thing I noticed about them was they shot really well, but POI was always shifted quite a bit horizontally vs. other ammo. That was with 22WMR and 22lr ammo.

None of my regular haunts has any. I will have to burn off all the less accurate stuff with my Model 60. Probably take one of my grandkids out for a fun shoot.


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,699
T
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
T
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,699
Been about since the time Obama was elected the last time I saw any Dynapoints. After that, just been the 333, 555 and SuperX stuff.

I found it to be the most consistent bulk ammo in my rifles. Now I’m shooting CCI SV for consistent “cheap” ammo.

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,932
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,932
I haven't seen Dynapoints since the early 2000s. It was great stuff that was cheap and shot really well for what it was.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
Bought a case around 1990.Good stuff.Was made I think in Australia. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,925
P
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,925
Dynapoints shot well for me many years ago. Haven't looked around for a long time since I became a SK and CCI SV fan.


Society of Intolerant Old Men. Rifle Slut Division
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,686
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,686
That CCI SGB was a great round. Haven’t seen that in awhile.



Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Originally Posted by jackmountain
That CCI SGB was a great round. Haven’t seen that in awhile.


I didn’t see them listed at the CCI website.


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
IC B3

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 18,890
1
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
1
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 18,890


The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 440
N
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
N
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 440
Steve, I see some LeBaron price stickers on some of those boxes. I really miss them, they were a great place to shop. I visited their Ottawa location many times.

Nick

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712

I wish we could take advantage of that. I'm in Canada.

Originally Posted by Nick1899
Steve, I see some LeBaron price stickers on some of those boxes. I really miss them, they were a great place to shop. I visited their Ottawa location many times.

Nick

Hi Nick. When I was still in the service, I was on course in Borden and drove to LeBaron's in Toronto. That's where I bought some of what is in those boxes. I don't know if you can read the sticker, but I paid $2.06 for a box of 50 Win PP. I did a quick look around. They are sold in 100 packs now and the prices range from $15 to $19. shocked

Nothing stays cheap, but the price per round for them went from 4 cents a round to 15-19 cents. smile


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 584
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 584
Perhaps the Dynapoints were rebranded as the Wildcat... same projectile but don't know about the finer differences.

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Originally Posted by Esteban325
Perhaps the Dynapoints were rebranded as the Wildcat... same projectile but don't know about the finer differences.

It would be interesting if there was a site - rimfirecentral maybe - where someone might know the history. I read somewhere that Wildcats appeared in 1971.
---

More cleaning of my workshop turned up these. The first is an older can of SK Magazine 22. I cannot remember when I bought these. They are an economy round that is still in production.

The other find was three boxes of Imperial 22LR. Two are unopened and in their original packaging. Imperial was Canadian made, but they went out of business in the mid 1980s.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
The SK magazine are re-labeled these,which I bought in year 2000. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Thanks for that. Lapua doesn't list it anymore. I wonder if SK Magazine 22 is now what is called Standard Plus?

I have five boxes of older SK Std Plus here. This is the old box beside the new one. I was looking at the prices of Standard Plus and Magazine. They aren't too far apart. Magazine is cheaper by $6/500. It might be the packaging. The specs are identical.

Edited to add: I was thinking that Magazine might be Std Plus that didn't make the grade, but was good enough to release for sale.

https://sk-ammunition.com/rimfire/ballistic-data/

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]...[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
This is SK before SK was born. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Yes, I remember being confused about the changes. At the time, didn’t Lapua buy SK, or maybe it was the other way around?

Lapua renamed or stopped production on a few cartridges. Midas L and M disappeared or were renamed or something. Seems to me there was a big stir over all that. Super Club became Std Plus, etc.


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
Went from Master & Midas to Center X & Exact. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc] [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,009
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,009
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Thanks for that. Lapua doesn't list it anymore. I wonder if SK Magazine 22 is now what is called Standard Plus?

I have five boxes of older SK Std Plus here. This is the old box beside the new one. I was looking at the prices of Standard Plus and Magazine. They aren't too far apart. Magazine is cheaper by $6/500. It might be the packaging. The specs are identical.

Edited to add: I was thinking that Magazine might be Std Plus that didn't make the grade, but was good enough to release for sale.

https://sk-ammunition.com/rimfire/ballistic-data/

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]...[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

To be honest, I've had better luck (less fliers) with the older SK standard plus. The one on the bottom in your pic..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
I was never a serious rimfire competitor. I bought the rifle for hunting, but found that my Model 60 was handier, so I relegated the 452 to range and postal matches. I took a 4 power scope off and put an 8-32 Mueller on.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

When I was still in the service, the rimfire benchrest guys told me that if I wanted to compete beyond the club level, that I would have to upgrade. The trouble was, I did not have the funds or the time to do that. Between service commitments, family, and shooting centrefire matches, I had no spare time.

About 15 years ago, I put a Brooks Trigger kit in and shot for fun. I like the relaxed atmosphere compared to the other shoots. And it is fun to work with kids. smile


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,162
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,162
I think I'm the only one that did not like Dynapoints. In every gun I've used, 22LR and 22 WMR, they were consistently the worst grouping ammo I could buy. My brother in law didn't mind as he got a few bricks for free. His BL-22 and 9422M love the stuff. Go figure.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
Another dynapoint variant. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 112
B
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
B
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 112
The new Wildcat Dynapoints can’t hold a candle to the 1990’s-early 2000’s Australia made bulk Dynapoints accuracy wise. Heck none of Winchester’s current offerings can hang. At least all their loads I could get ahold of last year. I didn’t try the Silvertips but all the others. The T22 were,in particular, garbage. When I was a kid they were very accurate and one of my favorite squirrel loads.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
S
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,046
Last of the good T-22's. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
S
Campfire Outfitter
OP Online Happy
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,712
Of the US made 22 rimfire ammunition, I guess CCI is the leader. Not trying to start a war or pick sides, just figure out the North American producers.

The problem with most US made 22 rimfire ammunition seems to be a lack of consistency. I wonder how committed Winchester, Remington and Federal are WRT R&D and higher standards over the long term. To get the consistency, one has to turn to Eley or SK for example. They seem to have better QC than Rem, Win or Fed.

My hunting experience with 22 rimfires led me to ditch the HV stuff and use subsonic ammunition. This was after Canadian producer IVI went out of business. I only used 40 grain loads. Grouse, bunnies and squirrels don't seem to need the extra 100 - 125 fps or hollow points. It simplified things for me. I am sure that others would want or need these things however. We live in different places and some of us hunt different critters.

Either way, it's nice to have choices.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 420
4
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
4
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 420
Originally Posted by sqweeler
Bought a case around 1990.Good stuff.Was made I think in Australia. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

I have a bunch of the Winchester Wildcats I bought back in the early 90’s. Very consistent firing and accurate enough that I use it to shoot at a 50 ft indoor range. I don’t remember ever having a ftf.

Pretty sure we were paying $10 a brick in those days. Wish I’d bought a truckload…

CCI Minimag and Standard, meh.

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,647
N
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,647
The early Dynapoints that my 541-S liked were unplated. The plated ones do ok but won’t match the earlier version, at least in my favorite squirrel rifle.


NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 58
T
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
T
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 58
Walmart sold dynapoints for a while. They had closeouts a few years back


Hammer down!
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 58
T
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
T
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Thanks for that. Lapua doesn't list it anymore. I wonder if SK Magazine 22 is now what is called Standard Plus?

I have five boxes of older SK Std Plus here. This is the old box beside the new one. I was looking at the prices of Standard Plus and Magazine. They aren't too far apart. Magazine is cheaper by $6/500. It might be the packaging. The specs are identical.

Edited to add: I was thinking that Magazine might be Std Plus that didn't make the grade, but was good enough to release for sale.

https://sk-ammunition.com/rimfire/ballistic-data/

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]...[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


I don't think sk magazine is sk plus. Sk mag sucks in everything I've tried it.in. doesn't even live up to plinking standards for me


Hammer down!
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

569 members (10gaugemag, 160user, 1beaver_shooter, 10ring1, 16penny, 17CalFan, 65 invisible), 2,349 guests, and 1,174 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,222
Posts18,466,460
Members73,925
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.089s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9587 MB (Peak: 1.1643 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-24 18:44:29 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS