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Nice to see an actual .358 bullet. That definitely pushes me toward wanting one more.


Using the .358 was the proper thing to do. Could not and cannot get warm and fuzzy about the .355 Legend
Agreed.

I'm waiting to see if they do a .358 Legend, or maybe a Type II like they did with the 6.8SPC.

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Originally Posted by Rich44
just wondering what this could do with the case stretched out to 2.020 kinda like a 375 win tapered down to .358

That's what's I'm wondering.


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Has anyone seen the specified twist rate?


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According to this article it will be 1 in12
https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/360-buckhammer/

Remington was also still finalizing the chamber drawings and specs for the round, specifically in terms of twist rate and throat dimensions. My rifle came with a 1:14 twist and had a steep 12-degree leade machined in the throat. The final specs for the .360 Buckhammer call for a 1:12 twist and a 1.5-degree leade in the throat, both of which should improve the round’s accuracy.


I shot five 5-shot groups with my rifle at the range and the groups averaged 2.442 inches. That’s okay for shooting within 150 yards on deer, but there’s certainly room for improvement. Based on my experience with similar cartridges in lever guns, I would expect to see the average of multiple 5-shot groups in the 1.5- to 1.75-inch range. With that accuracy, I’d be comfortable to 200 yards on a whitetail.

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Originally Posted by Rich44
According to this article it will be 1 in12
https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/360-buckhammer/

Remington was also still finalizing the chamber drawings and specs for the round, specifically in terms of twist rate and throat dimensions. My rifle came with a 1:14 twist and had a steep 12-degree leade machined in the throat. The final specs for the .360 Buckhammer call for a 1:12 twist and a 1.5-degree leade in the throat, both of which should improve the round’s accuracy.


I shot five 5-shot groups with my rifle at the range and the groups averaged 2.442 inches. That’s okay for shooting within 150 yards on deer, but there’s certainly room for improvement. Based on my experience with similar cartridges in lever guns, I would expect to see the average of multiple 5-shot groups in the 1.5- to 1.75-inch range. With that accuracy, I’d be comfortable to 200 yards on a whitetail.


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It’ll be interesting to see what ammo prices look like. While this looks a lot friendlier to load for and I’m glad they chose a true .358 bullet, I’m not sure I’ll be trading in my legend for it.

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Being from Iowa and a lefty, the idea of a lever gun in this cartridge is very attractive to me. However, I already have a Ruger (righty) in 350 L and a Savage 99 in 358 Win.

The author’s comment of a “7 lb rifle” here aside, every Henry model I’ve ever handled weighed like a boat anchor.

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The brass ones with the octagon barrels are ridiculously heavy.

The 16" BBS carbine isn't bad for weight. Mine is 6#9oz empty with a Williams FP peep on it.

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From Remington’s perspective I can see the attraction of developing this cartridge for niche US markets that have 1.8” straight wall case limits.

Use a shortened 30/30 case and bullets from a 35 Rem to produce ballistics that exceed those of (low pressure) factory 35 Rem. It might just make the 35 Rem obsolete.

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Originally Posted by JFE
From Remington’s perspective I can see the attraction of developing this cartridge for niche US markets that have 1.8” straight wall case limits.

Use a shortened 30/30 case and bullets from a 35 Rem to produce ballistics that exceed those of (low pressure) factory 35 Rem. It might just make the 35 Rem obsolete.


There are a LOT of 35 Remingtons out there, there just needs to be ammo again. Once again, northern states are screwing the rest of the nation.


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Originally Posted by selmer
Basically a straight wall rimmed .35 Remington in terms of performance.

I thought the same thing.

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May I ask, how is this better than the 38-55 or 375Win?
Is it because of the straight wall rules?
I'm not against it in any way, I just don't see it as better.


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Originally Posted by Nessmuk
May I ask, how is this better than the 38-55 or 375Win?
Is it because of the straight wall rules?
I'm not against it in any way, I just don't see it as better.


A WHOLE lot easier to feed and shoot cheaply once you get some brass. Those you mentioned don't fit the 1.8" rule that a few states have, so it's better in that regard.

If a bullet will work in a 38/357, you can fire it in the 360.


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Oh, didn't know they limited the length.
That's stupid.


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Besides the 1.8" length limitation bullet selection is much better not just handgun bullets but jacketed .358 rifle bullets suitable for a lever action.

I have both the 375 win and 38-55 in lever actions and the jacketed bullet selection sucks there's basically two companies making them the 200 gr Sierra and the 255gr Barnes and both are seldom available there is also the bullets from Les Vollmer which are probably easier to get, or buy or cast your own lead bullets.

And for people that don't reload I can't remember the last time I saw .375 win or 38-55 factory ammo in a store.
I'm hoping more ammo companies will make 360 ammo besides Remington or make more .35 cal bullets.

I don't think it will be anywhere near as popular as the 350L the rifles will be just two expensive, except for the single shots and not available in a bolt action or AR type rifle

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I believe the 360 BH will be popular in single shot and lever actions. The 350 L will remain popular in bolt and semi auto rifles. It will great to have so many options. The .357 max will contine to fade away without any factory ammo or rifles produced.

I will likely let my Ruger American 350 L go once the 360 BH gets chambered in the right rifle to make it enjoyable to hunt and carry.


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Seems those few northern states have gone to a lot of trouble to keep the 30-30 and 35 Remington from being legal. All in the name of safety of course.

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Shorten the 45-70 to 1.8" & call it the 450 Pig Sticker


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Originally Posted by Dinny
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I’m interested, but I’m sad it’s not actually a straight wall, so no carbide dies I’d imagine. Wish they had just gone with a 357 Max 1.8 instead. Then the Contender could handle full bore pressures with the smaller case head as well.

And Dinny is exactly right about the Max - what an underrated cartridge. I think it’s the absolute perfectly balanced deer round. Will stick with my Max, but options are always good.

Part of me does really want a 350 L in that Howa mini bolt action… bet I could run it with 357 dies and the same cast bullets…

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