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https://www.remington.com/big-green-blog/what-is-the-best-straight-wall-cartridge.html

The 360 Buckhammer!

Somebody finally listened. When Ohio adopted its PCR rules for deer. I remember opining on this august forum that I was waiting for a .358 straightwall round that had the punch of a 358 Winchester. It looks like Remington and Henry may have heard me. Dang! It took 'em 8 years.

I'm eager to hear more.


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Looking over factory advertised ballistics which are often not achieved in the real world, this new round is well short of 358 Win performance. More like 35 Remington. Still a step above the 350 Legend, so good on Remington.

Hope it works out for people that are limited to straight wall cartridges.


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I’m going to buy one and stock up on brass so after it’s discontinued I’ll be set up. It’d be my Ohio rifle where they don’t allow bottleneck cases.

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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
I’m going to buy one and stock up on brass so after it’s discontinued I’ll be set up. It’d be my Ohio rifle where they don’t allow bottleneck cases.
That was my plan with the .357 Max Encore I have here in Iowa. Then they went and allowed bottlenecked cartridges .355"-.500". So then I had to buy a .350 Rem Mag XP-100 after my daughter claimed the .357 Max and told me I needed to go buy another pistol to hunt with because that one is hers now.


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Originally Posted by TwoTrax
Looking over factory advertised ballistics which are often not achieved in the real world, this new round is well short of 358 Win performance. More like 35 Remington. Still a step above the 350 Legend, so good on Remington.

Hope it works out for people that are limited to straight wall cartridges.

Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?


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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
I’m going to buy one and stock up on brass so after it’s discontinued I’ll be set up. It’d be my Ohio rifle where they don’t allow bottleneck cases.


There will always be plenty of brass around for it.


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I’m all in on the 350 Legend already (Dies, bullets, powder, rifles), so that’s where I’m staying. Plenty potent for whitetails. I have 500 Starline brass, and several hundred once fired Winchester brass. I hope the new caliber makes it though. A day late and a dollar short in my book.

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i am waiting for a factory 375 caliber bullet hog smacker cartridge , a friend left me around 1,000 bullets


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Someone will convert a S&W 45/410 to a buck hammer, I’ll bet.


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One has to love a cartridge you can load the same bullets in that you sling out of a 38/357. Besides the straight wall makes for a wonderful cast bullet launcher and you can form brass from 30/30.


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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
I’m going to buy one and stock up on brass so after it’s discontinued I’ll be set up. It’d be my Ohio rifle where they don’t allow bottleneck cases.


Remember, this isn’t the Remington of old. This is the Remington Ammunition company, a subsidiary of Federal.


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Am I reading this right: the parent case is a 30-30?

Hmmm. I wonder when JES will be able to rechamber a 30-30 for 360 Buckhammer.


EDIT: I found this article that does a good job of getting into the details
https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/360-buckhammer/

I'm a bit less enamored the more I read, but I'm still curious. I wonder what a .358 pistol bullet would do-- either a Hornady XTP or a cast lead 158 grain RNFP.

This is probably the first time in 20-some years, I've actually been attracted to a new cartridge. Normally, I look at the chambering du jour and yawn. However, this one seems to have some practicality and some potential for growing legs.

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Originally Posted by shaman
Am I reading this right: the parent case is a 30-30?

Hmmm. I wonder when JES will be able to rechamber a 30-30 for 360 Buckhammer.


EDIT: I found this article that does a good job of getting into the details
https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/360-buckhammer/

I'm a bit less enamored the more I read, but I'm still curious. I wonder what a .358 pistol bullet would do-- either a Hornady XTP or a cast lead 158 grain RNFP.

This is probably the first time in 20-some years, I've actually been attracted to a new cartridge. Normally, I look at the chambering du jour and yawn. However, this one seems to have some practicality and some potential for growing legs.

Yes, 30/30 case, which is why I said earlier 'There will always be brass around for it.'


You won't be able to rebore a 30/30 to 360. Well, the rebore part isn't the issue, it's the chamber and the 360 will be narrower than the 30/30 at a point in the chamber.


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Originally Posted by shaman
I'm a bit less enamored the more I read, but I'm still curious. I wonder what a .358 pistol bullet would do-- either a Hornady XTP or a cast lead 158 grain RNFP.

This is probably the first time in 20-some years, I've actually been attracted to a new cartridge. Normally, I look at the chambering du jour and yawn. However, this one seems to have some practicality and some potential for growing legs.

At short range it might be a little hot at max velocity for a 180 XTP. I've taken a few deer with that bullet and it's been excellent, the hardest it got pushed was a shoulder shot on a 200# buck at ~10 yards with a MV of around 1850 fps. It performed perfect but guesstimating based on how much it mushroomed I'm not sure I'd push too much faster than that if close shots are a possibility.

...and me too on being attracted to the round. I don't need any wild velocity claims, as a single shot fan, a rimmed case with similar performance to a 35 Remington is plenty for me to take an interest in it.

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Sounds like a Big Green version of the .375 Winchester..

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That would be fun in a balanced double rifle.

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Originally Posted by JimH
Sounds like a Big Green version of the .375 Winchester..


Not really, plus there are an endless supply/variety of bullets for the 360.


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Originally Posted by Dave_Spn
You won't be able to rebore a 30/30 to 360. Well, the rebore part isn't the issue, it's the chamber and the 360 will be narrower than the 30/30 at a point in the chamber.

Drat!


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From an article in outdoor life on the remington release of the cartridge:

"The parent case of the .360 Buckhammer is a .30/30 that’s been blown out to get rid of the taper and necked up to accommodate .358-caliber bullets. Initially, the .360 Buckhammer will be offered with two bullets: a 200-grain Core-Lokt and a 180-grain Core-Lokt."

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Originally Posted by CasualShooter
From an article in outdoor life on the remington release of the cartridge:

"The parent case of the .360 Buckhammer is a .30/30 that’s been blown out to get rid of the taper and necked up to accommodate .358-caliber bullets. Initially, the .360 Buckhammer will be offered with two bullets: a 200-grain Core-Lokt and a 180-grain Core-Lokt."

Hope these bullets make it into the components sales scene.

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