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Originally Posted by wyoming260
If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....

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If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....
Maybe not in all of America, but Here in Buffalo, Wyoming it's pretty nice........

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Originally Posted by wyoming260
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If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....
Maybe not in all of America, but Here in Buffalo, Wyoming it's pretty nice........

Doesn't that miss the point? I wasn't talking about small town or city life. There are plenty of nice towns, cities and communities all over the world.

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Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by wyoming260
If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....

Precisely.


And we can have all sorts of guns too!


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Originally Posted by wyoming260
If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....

Precisely.


And we can have all sorts of guns too!

Irony? Sarcasm?

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Originally Posted by DBT
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Precisely.


And we can have all sorts of guns too!

Irony? Sarcasm?


Boredom...Jim is alright.

The rest of the nonces sound like they are trying to set up a date so watch your arse.


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The best place to live in the world is where there is great hunting, low population and few gun laws. South Dakota is great. I think Montana, Wyoming, Alaska and maybe a couple other mountainous states where there’s low population and good hunting might be as good or better. The worst places in the world is where there is severe gun laws, lots of people and no hunting.
I could care less about gays. Though there’s times I see some things these groups do that are offensive to me. I know if I get thrown in jail, I’ll be wearing my jeans high and tight.
Let the cock suckers and the a$$ f-ckers be as long as they stay to themselves — I could care less.

As far as I’m concerned it is almost the same as someone who likes Dodge pickups.

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Originally Posted by DBT
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If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....
Maybe not in all of America, but Here in Buffalo, Wyoming it's pretty nice........

Doesn't that miss the point? I wasn't talking about small town or city life. There are plenty of nice towns, cities and communities all over the world.

I only know of Australia , by what I see or here through media and the tourists that pass through here. You probably have the same sources on America. I am sure most Australians and most Americans could mix together fine. 5 percent of The U.S. way of life takes up 95 percent of the media. I am sure you country is the same way. Your Country is 13 percent the population of Ours, So yes we have Problems for the size of Our Country we are the true Last Bastion of Hope for Freedom on a Large scale.

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Wyoming….I understand the point you are making and I don’t disagree but I would just point out that you’re talking to 2 dipshits (DBT and mouser9) that are the antithesis of freedom loving Americans. Those 2 cucks are liberal government ball washers. These are the types of losers that couldn’t get vaxxed and boosted fast enough. They were willing to destroy the lives of anyone who didn’t get vaxxed and boosted along with all the other bullshit pushed by the liberals.

There might be decent Australians but those 2 ain’t it. 😂


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Wyoming….I understand the point you are making and I don’t disagree but I would just point out that you’re talking to 2 dipshits (DBT and mouser9) that are the antithesis of freedom loving Americans. Those 2 cucks are liberal government ball washers. These are the types of losers that couldn’t get vaxxed and boosted fast enough. They were willing to destroy the lives of anyone who didn’t get vaxxed and boosted along with all the other bullshit pushed by the liberals.

There might be decent Australians but those 2 ain’t it. 😂

You are lying again. You make accusations of 'antihesis of freedom,' when the opposite is true. I did not support the gun laws of '96, we had massive steet protests, lobbying by organizations like the sporting shooters association, etc, but ultimately the government holds the cards and nothing could be done short of an armed uprising.

Which someone with a family to support cannot afford to do.

How many Americans would take up arms against their government in that situation?

I know what the blowhards like you would say, and brag about it.

But of courss, reality is a different matter.

All you have is a big mouth, a nasty streak and an attitude. A perfect example of a Blowhard Yank.

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Originally Posted by wyoming260
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If you start out as a penal colony and only import garbage, than the results are not gonna be good. Australia is probably the low point of The once Broad reaching British empire

The USA, being of course a paradise on earth, where Christian love and tolerance knows no bounds, where rational people live in peace and harmony and have no fear of violence.....
Maybe not in all of America, but Here in Buffalo, Wyoming it's pretty nice........

Doesn't that miss the point? I wasn't talking about small town or city life. There are plenty of nice towns, cities and communities all over the world.

I only know of Australia , by what I see or here through media and the tourists that pass through here. You probably have the same sources on America. I am sure most Australians and most Americans could mix together fine. 5 percent of The U.S. way of life takes up 95 percent of the media. I am sure you country is the same way. Your Country is 13 percent the population of Ours, So yes we have Problems for the size of Our Country we are the true Last Bastion of Hope for Freedom on a Large scale.


You are aware of the ever tightening gun laws in your ow nation and states ?

What can't be achieved in one move may be implemented through increments. A liitle bit here, a little bit there and eventually you find that your rights and priveledges have been eroded away.

What then? Are you going to take up arms against your government?

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What then? Are you going to take up arms against your government?

This line is exactly what separates the USA from Europe and Oceania. Your Constitution does not grant you the right to self defense, Ours at this point still does. Our Government takes a strong stand against those rights , but when push comes to shove they back off, because no individual government official is willing to bet his life on pushing just a wee too far. In the next generation or so That will probably change as the Millenials and Genz can not wait to be socialist. Thankfully if I am alive I will be too senile to care........

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Originally Posted by wyoming260
What then? Are you going to take up arms against your government?

This line is exactly what separates the USA from Europe and Oceania. Your Constitution does not grant you the right to self defense, Ours at this point still does. Our Government takes a strong stand against those rights , but when push comes to shove they back off, because no individual government official is willing to bet his life on pushing just a wee too far. In the next generation or so That will probably change as the Millenials and Genz can not wait to be socialist. Thankfully if I am alive I will be too senile to care........


Your government is likely to disaprove of any armed uprising against it, deem it unlawful and take whatever measures needed in order to put it down.

And again, gun control is being implemented in your nation and states through incremental changes right now.

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Whilst the title is clickbait, the un-credited facts put forward were
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A third of Aussies aged 15 to 24 identify as LGBTQIA+… a new survey has revealed… Seeing different relationships online from a young age has given people the confidence to “live a life most true to them.”
In all likelihood this is another attempt to make trouble.

This is less than 13% of the Australia population. The same age group is just over 13% of the American population.

The numbers in this age group who identify as LGBT is a little over 24% in the US, 29% in Australia. Interestingly, the difference in numbers is not down to sexual orientation, but the ability to safely identify. In short, Americans feel less able to safely identify their sexual orientation than people of similar ages in other nations (including Australia). Another example of true Freedom being an illusion in America.

Probably has something to do with the number of fake Christians who identify with superiority of white Christians over anyone else, yet exhibit little or no Christian values to those of lower social classes, ethnicities, other religions or sexual orientation.

Interestingly, in America same sex marriages are more stable than the overall marriage sample.
Among all currently married adults in 2016, 76% of men and 77% of women were in their first marriage.
Among same-sex married couples in 2016, 82% of men and 75% women were in their first marriage.

Even more interesting is the growing realisation in America of the hypocrisy of religion, particularly the cult-like nature of American Christian observance. With more than 28% of the US population being non-observant/atheist/anitthetist, and that number continues to grow.
[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/religio.../2021/12/PF_12.14.21_NPORS_0_0.png?w=575[/img]

Maybe there is hope for us yet?

For those who practice Christianity as a way to express their superiority over others...
Remember, Jesus Christ was a prophet, not a god.
He was a prophet of Judaism, against a corrupt religious practice at temple, not a new religion.
God is Allah, and both are Yahweh.
Churches are a political affiliation (much like unionised workforce), few have the benefit of their congregants as the first priority.
Hearing voices telling you to do something is normally a diagnosis of mental instability, not divine inspiration.
Faith can be enlightening, but to many it is blinding.
A man or woman of faith can practice that faith without the church and still be more observant of the beliefs than those who always attend on Friday, or Sunday.
The worst excesses of humankind have been done in the name of faith, faith in a religious practice, faith in a political belief, faith in a cultural difference, faith in what is best for the individual rather than the community.

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I had a good friend in Australia. He told me he moved there because of the laws in England were becoming oppressive. So he moved to and worked in Australia. He had invested his life saving in expensive English doubles.
One year the government of Australia required all guns to be registered. The next year the government required him to turn in his rifles and they paid him $700 Australian for his $20,000 to $30,000+ rifles. They destroyed the guns. It basically bankrupted him and he had to work many more years of his life. Years he thought that he’d live in retirement.
It is not the man on the street in Australia that did it to him. It was the government. No one saw it coming, except the ones who had it planned.
We shouldn’t point the finger at the ones who were hurt, it may happen to us.

I found the people in Australia to be good people, hard working people, people that I’d be happy to fight along side in war. They proved themselves in WWII. And when war comes to the Pacific again I know they will be on the side of the USA.

Drop this crap - attacking the gun owners there. It is uncalled for! It’s disgraceful.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
I had a good friend in Australia. He told me he moved there because of the laws in England were becoming oppressive. So he moved to and worked in Australia. He had invested his life saving in expensive English doubles.
One year the government of Australia required all guns to be registered. The next year the government required him to turn in his rifles and they paid him $700 Australian for his $20,000 to $30,000+ rifles. They destroyed the guns. It basically bankrupted him and he had to work many more years of his life. Years he thought that he’d live in retirement.

I know that those who lived through the 1996 mandatory buy-back would call bullshit on this.

1. Double rifles/shotguns were not in scope. AR15, AR18, Garand, Remington 1100, 7400, BARs, 10/22s were what was being bought back.

2. The prices paid were almost always at a price higher than their market value at the time.

3. There was also an appeals process available for truly outstanding items (like the presentation grade BARs, or Auto 5s).

It would have been impossible that a cabinet full of English Double Rifles (H&H, Purdey, Westley Richards, etc.) were in scope for the buyback, or bought back for $700 each. No [bleep] way. Plenty of old bolt and single shot rifles/shotguns were handed in as the owners didn't want to bother with registration AND the government was offering more than those [bleep] little guns were worth. Easy to hand in something that is of no value when someone wants to give you $250 to get it out of circulation.

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I had a good friend in Australia. He told me he moved there because of the laws in England were becoming oppressive. So he moved to and worked in Australia. He had invested his life saving in expensive English doubles.
One year the government of Australia required all guns to be registered. The next year the government required him to turn in his rifles and they paid him $700 Australian for his $20,000 to $30,000+ rifles. They destroyed the guns. It basically bankrupted him and he had to work many more years of his life. Years he thought that he’d live in retirement.

I know that those who lived through the 1996 mandatory buy-back would call bullshit on this.

1. Double rifles/shotguns were not in scope. AR15, AR18, Garand, Remington 1100, 7400, BARs, 10/22s were what was being bought back.

2. The prices paid were almost always at a price higher than their market value at the time.

3. There was also an appeals process available for truly outstanding items (like the presentation grade BARs, or Auto 5s).

It would have been impossible that a cabinet full of English Double Rifles (H&H, Purdey, Westley Richards, etc.) were in scope for the buyback, or bought back for $700 each. No [bleep] way. Plenty of old bolt and single shot rifles/shotguns were handed in as the owners didn't want to bother with registration AND the government was offering more than those [bleep] little guns were worth. Easy to hand in something that is of no value when someone wants to give you $250 to get it out of circulation.

I guess you’re calling my friend a liar.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
I guess you’re calling my friend a liar.


If he is stating that the Australian Government required him to turn in his double rifles during the buy back, then yes he is.

And the statement that he had to work many more years because the loss of the aforementioned $20 000 - $30 000 of double rifles almost bankrupted him is also suspect.

You forget...we were here.


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I had a good friend in Australia. He told me he moved there because of the laws in England were becoming oppressive. So he moved to and worked in Australia. He had invested his life saving in expensive English doubles.
One year the government of Australia required all guns to be registered. The next year the government required him to turn in his rifles and they paid him $700 Australian for his $20,000 to $30,000+ rifles. They destroyed the guns. It basically bankrupted him and he had to work many more years of his life. Years he thought that he’d live in retirement.

I know that those who lived through the 1996 mandatory buy-back would call bullshit on this.

1. Double rifles/shotguns were not in scope. AR15, AR18, Garand, Remington 1100, 7400, BARs, 10/22s were what was being bought back.

2. The prices paid were almost always at a price higher than their market value at the time.

3. There was also an appeals process available for truly outstanding items (like the presentation grade BARs, or Auto 5s).

It would have been impossible that a cabinet full of English Double Rifles (H&H, Purdey, Westley Richards, etc.) were in scope for the buyback, or bought back for $700 each. No [bleep] way. Plenty of old bolt and single shot rifles/shotguns were handed in as the owners didn't want to bother with registration AND the government was offering more than those [bleep] little guns were worth. Easy to hand in something that is of no value when someone wants to give you $250 to get it out of circulation.

I guess you’re calling my friend a liar.

Double barrels are legal, as are lever and pump action rifles, so if the claim is that he had to hand over his double barrel guns, yes that claim is bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Bugger
I guess you’re calling my friend a liar.

I believe that you have recounted what he told you.

He is not telling you the truth.

So yes, I'm saying he has misinformed you. It seems that others are as well.

Even if he had a collection of M1 Garands / M14s or similar he would have still come out ahead on the dollar value.

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