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My Excl Lite 6 ARC got here today. Was surprised it came with a set of bottom metal (plastic) and action screws…like Howa knew I’d want a different stock…gonna play with it. Gotta feeling a B&C or Stockys is in the future. I don’t care about it being light, really wanted it for a practice comp gun.

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Originally Posted by ChrisAU
My Excl Lite 6 ARC got here today. Was surprised it came with a set of bottom metal (plastic) and action screws…like Howa knew I’d want a different stock…gonna play with it. Gotta feeling a B&C or Stockys is in the future. I don’t care about it being light, really wanted it for a practice comp gun.

What's the twist rate on your ARC? I thought the minis were all 1-8, but I could have sworn I saw a picture of a 1-7.5 somewhere that looked factory.

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You did, about a dozen posts up.

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If only the Howies were Stainless. Hint.............

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You did, about a dozen posts up.

Originally Posted by Big Stick
If only the Howies were Stainless. Hint.............

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That's the one, certainly doesn't look like a custom tube with the bit about reading the manual, yet every bit of copy I can find from manufacturer or retailer product pages plus some earlier reports says 1-8. So I'm curious if they've made the change wholesale, just to the carbon series, or what?

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Mine is a 7.5 as well. As is my Howa 6 Creed. They did them right.

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I'll have to check but I believe mine is 7.5 as well.

Also have a B&C on order...

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Considering the price, a feller could afford both types if it made him happy. I like the CZ mags, but $150 ain’t much of a disincentive if I decided to run something long. Not sure what bullets will spin in a 1-8” .223 that won’t fit in a 2.3-something” magazine, and what use I would have for them here in the wooded East is another question.
I regularly run 80s at > 2.4" OAL


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My CZ mag's are 2.325" tight,which is ASC AR mag confines and why I love them for 75 HPBT's in 223 and 88's in 22 PPC AFI. Hint.

While COAL is obviously a factor,the .100"++ leap to the lands,do no fhuqking favors. Hint.

The Mini is best in 22 PPC AFI,followed by 243 Grendel and lastly 264 Grendel. The shorter case,with greater capacity,simply slams doors shut and rules the roost. Wayne's World BDL metal,do many favors,while OEM and CZ DBM's do not. Hint.

Identical COAL here. Hint.

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Anyone heard what box length of the in development BDL BM from Jefferson Outdoors is going to be? They've got pictures of it on their site, but it's listed as coming soon. The pictures make it look like they took a little different approach on the box itself.


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It's gonna be longer than OEM. Hint.(grin)

The new latch looks MUCH more promising. I'll have one for R&D,as quick as I can. I'm sure a phone call,would reveal all. Hint.................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
It's gonna be longer than OEM. Hint.(grin)

The new latch looks MUCH more promising. I'll have one for R&D,as quick as I can. I'm sure a phone call,would reveal all. Hint.................

That JO unit looks like what I'd want.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
It's gonna be longer than OEM. Hint.(grin)

The new latch looks MUCH more promising. I'll have one for R&D,as quick as I can. I'm sure a phone call,would reveal all. Hint.................
It looks like a single-stack box.

When you get your hands on one, you'll spill your thoughts on it here, right?


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I've seen me critique wares and cascade those findings. Such things can be VERY good for Vendors. Hint...............(grin)


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by Big Stick
It's gonna be longer than OEM. Hint.(grin)

The new latch looks MUCH more promising. I'll have one for R&D,as quick as I can. I'm sure a phone call,would reveal all. Hint.................
It looks like a single-stack box.

When you get your hands on one, you'll spill your thoughts on it here, right?

I believe the previous JO box was center feed design. I think the upcoming version will be a more traditional side/side.

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by Big Stick
It's gonna be longer than OEM. Hint.(grin)

The new latch looks MUCH more promising. I'll have one for R&D,as quick as I can. I'm sure a phone call,would reveal all. Hint.................
It looks like a single-stack box.

When you get your hands on one, you'll spill your thoughts on it here, right?

I believe the previous JO box was center feed design. I think the upcoming version will be a more traditional side/side.
Maybe so, but the limited pictures show a different appearance than that of the OG unit.


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The internal length of the jefferson outdoor unit is 2.475 overall and that works out to being able to reliably feed a COAL of 2.450 in testing.

The current production is a stagger feed design instead of the original center feed design that was used on the first generation trigger guard, the change was made to make loading easier because the first generation was stiff to load.

The second generation also has a redesigned trigger bow and a much more positive floor plate latch to reduce the chance of accidental cartridge dumps.

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Can I pay in advance? I they rate,I'll sell THE fhuqk outta' them. Hint...............(grin)


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HPK,

Many thanks and I'll spill my guts on the findings. Hint.

For Spring Fling Splendor,I'll be sure to tote the 1D4/Siggy Artsy Fartsy 35mm Bokeh Bitch and the cup will runneth over. Within a rock toss of my front porch,I can think of (13) Howie Mini's to be dressed out. Hint.

Hell...I'm tying up Riggin' in advance already! Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Mine is a 7.5 as well. As is my Howa 6 Creed. They did them right.[/quote


[quote=ChrisAU]I'll have to check but I believe mine is 7.5 as well.

Also have a B&C on order...

Well alrighty then, the advertised (slower than SAAMI) 8 twist when they came out is what turned me off, because otherwise it looks like a perfect pairing. I've got a couple ARs so chambered, and really dig the little round, now I'm going to need a Mini with BDL bottom metal to go with them.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
Mine is a 7.5 as well. As is my Howa 6 Creed. They did them right.[/quote


[quote=ChrisAU]I'll have to check but I believe mine is 7.5 as well.

Also have a B&C on order...

Well alrighty then, the advertised (slower than SAAMI) 8 twist when they came out is what turned me off, because otherwise it looks like a perfect pairing. I've got a couple ARs so chambered, and really dig the little round, now I'm going to need a Mini with BDL bottom metal to go with them.

Same here. The AR was initially what got me started. Once the Carbon came around it was an easy pick up. Looking forward to seeing what JO releases if BS didn’t hog them all whistle


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