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Got 'em flipped. Just like the video.... Thanks 1500.

23 year old me bought a new 93 Dodge just because I wanted it.
$1/gal diesel and 20mpg, it penciled out well against most full size
trucks then. No contest against a big block.

Still have it.



30 years later.

Diesel is more expensive than gas, EPA has ruined the mpg, DEF,
The lack of reliability, initial expense.......

The performance of modern gas engines.


One would have to be an idiot to buy a diesel today unless really heavy
pulling at grade was frequent.

Got 'em flipped. Just like the video.... Thanks 1500.

The new Chevy 2500’s went from a 6L90 to the new ‘Allison’ 10 speed, same as the diesel. I would assume a transmission they put behind a diesel would hold up well behind the gasser.

You mean that even the 1 ton rated trucks today have automatic hubs? I don’t even trust them on my half ton and up until recently the manual hubs were on the 3/4 ton Fords. I’m old so old school seemed just fine for me when I needed 4wd. If I got my feet muddy getting out and turning in the front hubs, that was on me for not being smart enough to realize that they should have been engaged already.

My son's employer (forest management) is a fleet buyer. They gave up on diesels long ago, just didn't pencil out. Since they went gas, they have tried Dodge, GMC, and now Ford. None seems better than another, so far. Dodges ate cams and lifters after warranty. GMC's transmission failures after warranty, Fords are just now getting up past warranty and it's not looking good. Every truck has had automatic 4x4 hub failure (warranty), broken windshields from ill fitting body panels (warranty denied), multiple wiring harness connector failures, cab leaks, excessive tire wear (warranty denied). Company policy has evolved to try to roll the fleet over at 200,000. They put on a lot of miles in a year. I'm not pushing any brand of pickup here, just passing it on. Word is company is regretting providing pickups, used to be employee supplied pickup and was reimbursed mileage, but the workmen's insurance carrier said don't do that for legal reasons.

My 22 F250 has locking hubs with auto engagement. I think I want to delete the auto engagement though because there are times when I want use 4 low without locking the front axle.

I've had manual locking hubs fail too. As long as you use 4X4 on a regular basis to keep everything lubricated automatic hubs do pretty good. The only time I've seen either type fail was when they weren't used for a long time and the lack of lubrication prevented them from locking when needed.

I've owned a 4x4 of some sort since 1976. Back when there were 3 sticks in the floor and manual locking hubs it was easy to use 2wd low range. But they used to put warning labels in the cab warning drivers not to. I watched one person snap a U-Joint doing that. I suppose if you're careful and just need to go slow and aren't trying to pull much weight in 2wd low it would be OK.