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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Tikka, and it's not even close.


My favorite rifle is the Ruger Mk II, but if choosing between an RAR and a Tikka, I agree with James Jr.
Tikka for sure.


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
I bought a Ruger American Preditor in May of 2022. Over a six month span, it went back to the factory twice. When I sent it back the second time - I told them to keep it!

The first time I sent it back was because of excessive headspace. They replaced the barrel and the bolt.

I got the riflle back - mounted the scope - and headed to the range.

Over the course of 3 range sessions, the rifle shot well. That is...untill I pulled the trigger....and the firing pin assembly unlocked from the bolt...and fell back into my hand.

I called Ruger and explained in detail what happened. I told them that a firing pin asembly should NEVER just unlock from a bolt. I told them that I did not trust the rifle and I wanted a replacement or my money back. They sent me a shipping label - and I sent it back a second time.

Two weeks after they received it, I got a call telling me that the rifle had been repaired. "Repaired" I asked??

The rep told me that they replaced the firing pin assembly and the bolt handle due to "premature wear." Premature wear, I asked? After just 27 rounds??

I won't go into the full conversation - it was heated.

At any rate, I received the rifle back from the factory in early December...and I have not even bothered to open the box.

Prior to purchacing the Ruger, everything I had read was positive. That's why I bought it. In fact, at the gun store, on the same rack, was a Tikka in the same caliber. The Ruger was $400 cheaper...so I bought it.

This is a test sample of one...but for me...I will not own another Ruger American. That $400 dollars I saved...might have well been thrown in the trash.

Get the Tikka!!

I've owned a couple dozen RAR-Ps and the only problem that I've had is with a 223 that didn't feed well. I replaced the magazine and it has worked fine since then. I have over 2K rounds fired from the 204 and a 223. I also have over 500 rounds fired from a 243, 260, and a pair of 6.5CMs. I've owned some of these rifles since 2015.

I do know people who have had problems with their RARs that required a return to the factory and they didn't always get satisfactory outcomes. There are going to be a small number of lemons in any high volume production process.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
I bought a Ruger American Preditor in May of 2022. Over a six month span, it went back to the factory twice. When I sent it back the second time - I told them to keep it!

The first time I sent it back was because of excessive headspace. They replaced the barrel and the bolt.

I got the riflle back - mounted the scope - and headed to the range.

Over the course of 3 range sessions, the rifle shot well. That is...untill I pulled the trigger....and the firing pin assembly unlocked from the bolt...and fell back into my hand.

I called Ruger and explained in detail what happened. I told them that a firing pin asembly should NEVER just unlock from a bolt. I told them that I did not trust the rifle and I wanted a replacement or my money back. They sent me a shipping label - and I sent it back a second time.

Two weeks after they received it, I got a call telling me that the rifle had been repaired. "Repaired" I asked??

The rep told me that they replaced the firing pin assembly and the bolt handle due to "premature wear." Premature wear, I asked? After just 27 rounds??

I won't go into the full conversation - it was heated.

At any rate, I received the rifle back from the factory in early December...and I have not even bothered to open the box.

Prior to purchacing the Ruger, everything I had read was positive. That's why I bought it. In fact, at the gun store, on the same rack, was a Tikka in the same caliber. The Ruger was $400 cheaper...so I bought it.

This is a test sample of one...but for me...I will not own another Ruger American. That $400 dollars I saved...might have well been thrown in the trash.

Get the Tikka!!

I've owned a couple dozen RAR-Ps and the only problem that I've had is with a 223 that didn't feed well. I replaced the magazine and it has worked fine since then. I have over 2K rounds fired from the 204 and a 223. I also have over 500 rounds fired from a 243, 260, and a pair of 6.5CMs. I've owned some of these rifles since 2015.

I do know people who have had problems with their RARs that required a return to the factory and they didn't always get satisfactory outcomes. There are going to be a small number of lemons in any high volume production process.


No doubt. As I said in my post, "This is a test sample of one..."

Uunfortunantly - this one test sample - was the first test sample.

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
I bought a Ruger American Preditor in May of 2022. Over a six month span, it went back to the factory twice. When I sent it back the second time - I told them to keep it!

The first time I sent it back was because of excessive headspace. They replaced the barrel and the bolt.

I got the riflle back - mounted the scope - and headed to the range.

Over the course of 3 range sessions, the rifle shot well. That is...untill I pulled the trigger....and the firing pin assembly unlocked from the bolt...and fell back into my hand.

I called Ruger and explained in detail what happened. I told them that a firing pin asembly should NEVER just unlock from a bolt. I told them that I did not trust the rifle and I wanted a replacement or my money back. They sent me a shipping label - and I sent it back a second time.

Two weeks after they received it, I got a call telling me that the rifle had been repaired. "Repaired" I asked??

The rep told me that they replaced the firing pin assembly and the bolt handle due to "premature wear." Premature wear, I asked? After just 27 rounds??

I won't go into the full conversation - it was heated.

At any rate, I received the rifle back from the factory in early December...and I have not even bothered to open the box.

Prior to purchacing the Ruger, everything I had read was positive. That's why I bought it. In fact, at the gun store, on the same rack, was a Tikka in the same caliber. The Ruger was $400 cheaper...so I bought it.

This is a test sample of one...but for me...I will not own another Ruger American. That $400 dollars I saved...might have well been thrown in the trash.

Get the Tikka!!

I've owned a couple dozen RAR-Ps and the only problem that I've had is with a 223 that didn't feed well. I replaced the magazine and it has worked fine since then. I have over 2K rounds fired from the 204 and a 223. I also have over 500 rounds fired from a 243, 260, and a pair of 6.5CMs. I've owned some of these rifles since 2015.

I do know people who have had problems with their RARs that required a return to the factory and they didn't always get satisfactory outcomes. There are going to be a small number of lemons in any high volume production process.


No doubt. As I said in my post, "This is a test sample of one..."

Uunfortunantly - this one test sample - was the first test sample.

Funny, you didn't say the LAST... I would have. After all the bs my buddy had to deal with when he sent 2 of his RAR's in, I would write them off personally. He's 2 for 2 for failure rate. He's not as much of a hard azz as I am though, he still uses them. Give me a Tikka, little fuss and very accurate. I've never had to send one back to the factory. Thank god, as I hear Beretta's CS SUCKS. Nothing is guaranteed, but the failure rate on a Tikka is damn low, from what I've seen. It's your choice on what you guys use, but I know where I put my money. I have very little patience for stupid azzed people and ill working rifles. That's just me though. YMMV..


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Your are correct - First and Last

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Your are correct - First and Last

Isn’t that a Cheap Trick lyric?

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I ran into a guy and his daughter near sheep creek on the upper Yukon, repairing a hole in their boat.

They were confirming the zero of their hunting rifles. The girl was using a tikka carbine in 7mm-08.

The 12 yr old girl's hand were wet and cold. When she went to clear a round from the chamber, her grip slipped off the forearm when she went to open the bolt. Trigger hit the spout of a five gallon gas jug and rifle went off.

She was pretty shooken up and the father was real angry. I helped them repair the boat and shared a story with her about that happening when I was her age, trying to lower the hammer of a model 94 with cold/wet hands.

I dunno if tikka has changed the safety, but what a stupid design, only being able to cycle the bolt with safety off.

If a youth rifle, I'd rather them have a Ruger American.

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Since I'm like the fkn Oprah Winfrey of freighter canoe hunting, I'm always getting calls/emails about hunts from all over Alaska and the Yukon.

I never accepted the idea of hunting rivers with the Ruger American. Well, they work and I was wrong. Many guys/gals/kiddos hunting Alaska and the Yukon with the Ruger Americans.

Vid 1: My friends Dan and Jeric. Caribou hunt, Ruger American 30-06, 180 grain nosler partition.
Scott Albany 18 ft, 12 hp Surface Drive

Vide 2: My friend Greg and "Sonny", moose hunt, ruger american ranch 450 bushmaster, Scott Hudson Bay, 14hp surface drive.





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I have more Rugers than any other brand.

Tikka over any Ruger.

Ruger usually almost makes a really good gun.


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