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Accept that they are general purpose field guns and shoot them from field positions.

I don't know, I don't worry about benchresting them too much. If I want to test them, I usually go down prone, slung up with a bag under my support arm.

I'm sure BSA1917 will drop a few hints if you absolutely gotta BR them.

The only BCA item I have is a threaded Glock barrel and and it seems to shoot more accurately with that barrel over a factory Glock barrel.

Godogs57, I think your groups look pretty good. Especially the 10 shot group shown with Varget. I wouldn't kick that one out of bed. Tyrone has shot the AR platform a lot more than I have. He has some very good suggestions. rost can also help. I on the otherhand shoot weak side when I use irons. My right eye is better. When shooting off the right side, I think I focus more than I do when shooting lefty.

What kind of a rest do you use? I'm assuming rear bag too? I found a good front rest is much easier to use than a bag. That is when the rifle is not equipped with a good bi-pod. The vertical dispersion would seem more like a rear bag issue. Like Tyrone said about the shape of the butt stock, not lending itself well for shooting off a bench. They are also harder to master than a good ol bolt action, that many of us are so used to. You could always buy a new upper and see if anything changes, but be warned if you buy the wrong one, it could get worse.. Think more quality, especially when it comes to the barrel and you'll be doing yourself a favor. If you buy a new upper, let us know how it compares.

As for PSA, which seems like a lot of these guy's suggest, one of my buddies texted me early this morning. Like 5:30 AM!!! He has been working on building a couple AR10's. He said he pulled out the borescope and both PSA barrels looked like dog schidt. Something about the machinging being horrible and an issue with one side of the lands in a couple areas. if it were me, I'd be trying the BA barrel that comes in the upper I posted a pic of yesterday. That one is built by Aero Precision and has a removable carry handle. That way you can assess the upper with a scope too, and see how those groups compare to your iron sight groups. If there is a huge fluctuation, that tells you you're doing something wrong. Remember to nose up to that charging handle and do it consistently every time.. Tyrone is right, this is a battle rifle, but it can be shot from the bench or prone with great success. Stay in the rifle, keep everything consistent and stay focused mentally. Everything you have learned about marksmanship applies to the AR two fold!!

Shooting a Caldwell Rock Competition front rest with a Bald Eagle bunny bag @ rear. I’ll be the first to criticize my technique if necessary and did notice it was hard to be consistent on that rear bag with the sling swivel as big and prominent as it is.

looks like a 11/2 gun way better then my BC experience.

I can see that one slipping quite a bit. Probably too hard. I'd find a good leather rear bag, where it allows the stock to nestle into it. This will reduce slipping, which may be causing some of the vertical stringing. These 2 bags are an example of what I use. They are not high dollar, nor big name bunny ear bags either. Just something that works well.




In this last picture, you can see the rifle on the far left the bag was not tall enough. That is my buddies rifle. He was struggling to shoot it well. He asked if I could shoot it to see what was going on. I shot it and it shot 2" 10 shot groups. That is a pre ban National match HBAR Bushmaster. It's a great rifle. My Colt outshoots it though and it does not have the HBAR. My buddy was struggling to even get 3-4" groups with his rifle. He'll say it's a 1 1/2 moa rifle though, if you ask him. Another thing to note in this picture, is he could have brought the front rest down to accommodate the height difference. He didn't want to do that. For some reason he, and many others like their rifles a foot off the bench. I'm different, I like to get comfortable when shooting off the bench. It's all technique and what you are used to, but if you are not willing to make changes, you may never end up shooting the platform well. Such as my buddy, he's hard headed.

Then again I'm saying they have been much better than I read about... and you know if I"m saying it, well it has to have merit.. Depending use...

Front rest as close to mag well as possible. Aim and fire. Nothing fancy. Works fine to find out potential.

I do have a special upper to put match barrels on that is wide and slick and floated, to test 600 yard plus ammo and barrel before putting on a service rifle. There I take a bit more time on the rest part but nothing fancy.

I recently put on a 24" BCA 224 valkyrie barrel and it is a good shooter.

I know you have given that type of advice before. Like they are a battle rifle, just shoot it like one. Or some such recommendation. That helped me, as soon as I thought about it for a while. One thing I was guilty of is checking POI after each shot through the spotter. Then you lose your hold on the rifle, and I'm sure that affects accuracy. If you have someone spotting for you, that is a huge benefit.