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Just my opinion, and likely already said:
Any bullet that big, that penetrates, is good.
I use soft lead, hand cast, in my 50cal front stuffer. I've flipped deer clear over.
Big, heavy, slow, close: dead critter.
I'm looking into a 375Win for the same reason.
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I've never used the lighter, shorter bullets that seem so popular with the .45-70, preferring the 400 grain Speer and 405 grain Remington (of which I probably have a lifetime supply at this point.) I load them over a stiff charge of Varget and go out and kill deer. They shoot very well. I have killed a lot of deer with them.
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Just picked up a new Marlin 1895 Trapper. (snip) Have done a little looking but would like to hear from those who have BTDT. (snip) Speer 400 grain JFP and 52 grains of H4895. A little more thump than RP factory ammo but far short of the gun's limits. Sub MOA in a guide gun, a GBL, and a cowboy rifle.
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I don't even know that the 405 Remington is produced anymore, but it was my favorite for elk and I used 3031 powder.I can't see the 45-70 ever being used just for plinking though. Trail boss and some cast 300 gr 145 Collar Buttons and Unique.
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350 gr hornady round or flat point.
46 gr. IMR 4198 1986 Ave. Muzzle speed from the 1895 non guide gun 22 inch barrel.
Only recovered one bullet, took a 300 lb. Mule deer buck and a lot of vertebrae to stop from facing me at 20-ish yards.
Whistled threw multiple other deer, couple black bear and a big ol' lead cow elk.
Love that combo of large and quick handling. If the animal is not laying right there after the shot, not hard to follow the pieces and/or blood to it....
happiness is elbow deep in elk guts.
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My bullet selection:
400 grain cast - most anything
500 grain cast - most anything that bites
300 grain cast - deer, hogs anything similar
Then there’s jacketed bullets if you must.
I prefer classic.
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250 and 300 grain Barnes TSX flat point.
I shot the 250 TSX full tilt with H4198 from a 1895 SBL Remlin. It would stack them in one hole at 100 yards. You right about that 250 TSX. I run that one at 2,550 fps. The HP looks like the open end of an ash tray and that bullet blows lung tissue thru the far side of a WT chest. Blood like a fire hose, deer down in feet rather than yards. And, as you note, very accurate. DF
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The ole 405 gr Remington's were great I'm told
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The FTX line Hornaday is the bees knees 4 deer!
I think they are 325 grain. And very aerodynamic.
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T R U M P W O N !
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As a follow up , I bought 400 of the 405gr Missouri bullets, along with some Hornady 300 and 350gr. Have a suppressor on order and am going to pick up some 410gr Hornady Sub-X's also.
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You will have a ball shooting the subs. I'm loading those 405s to about 1050 out of my GG and a 45 pistol can on the end. It's fun
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What is you sub load if I may ask?
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14gr of VVn350 from a 1895 trapper. Super fun
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