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this would be geared more to cap and ball pistols. has anyone ever use the ballistol and water solution and put it in a ultrasonic cleaner to clean at least smaller parts or even the whole thing disassembled?
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i have given up Ballistol in favor of windex. dissolves fouling on contact. 80% of the time i am shooting flintlocks with pinned barrels. i would bet that windex in a ultrasonic cleaner would work great. and way cheaper than ballistol. i drop nipples into a bowl of windex and then blast them with air. they are perfectly clean.
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Mike Venturino has for years written about using a Windex with vinegar and water mix to clean his BP cartridge cases. Dumps a quart of the Windex into a gallon jug and fills it with water. I’ve never seen that variety of Windex myself, but it must be out there someplace. (Walmart has it, I see).
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Vinegar will remove blueing.
Ballistol works well for me, but don't use an ultrasonic. It 'is' water soluble.
I've shot the base pin with WD-40 well shooting. Works well. Never tried Windex.
I think Elmer Kieth said dunk in boiling water, dry, and oil in his book "Sixguns."
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Winded, vinegar formulation, is the real deal. Been shooting real bp and cleaning with windex for 25+ years after reading Mike’s article on the subject. Amazing to see how well it works. Have not used boiling soapy water since, and have not had even a hint of corrosion of any type.
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Back when I lived and breathed cap-and-ball revolvers I had a simple method of cleaning. I would remove the grips and dunk the whole gun in a sink full of hot soapy water, slosh it around, run a couple tight patches through the bore and chambers, furiously brush external surfaces with a soft tooth brush, and rinse in clear water, and finally doused with WD-40 (for its water displacement properties). Then it would go into the pre-heated oven set at its lowest temperature for a half hour or so to dry out, followed by a good spray lubricant and a wipedown. Overkill, and probably too involved a process, but I fretted about BP fouling seeping into the guts of revolvers. In the end I never experienced rust and the guns never suffered issues of gummed up internals.
On the other hand, my best friend and fellow BP revolver shooter only ever wiped down external surfaces and ran a couple water soaked patches through the bores and chambers followed by dry ones then an oily one. His revolvers looked and functioned as nicely as mine did.
Muskets and SxS shotguns had their barrels dismounted and accompanied me into the shower with a cleaning rod. Killed two birds with one stone. Locks got scrubbed in the sink.
Rifles with barrels pinned to their stocks got/get cleaned with good old three part solution: equal measures of alcohol and peroxide, and 2/3 measure of Murphy's Oil Soap. I forget the name of the old buckskinner who cooked it up and ballyhoo'ed it in the black powder magazines 30-40 years ago, but I got on that bandwagon back then and never got off.
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For black powder, plain old rubbing alcohol works just fine for simplicity ( Windex is alcohol, surfactant and water). Toothbrush it on, work the nooks and crannies. Dries fast.
Long time blackpowder cleaner is "111". 1 part Murphy's Oil soap (or generic), 1 part rubbing alcohol, 1 part brown bottle hydrogen peroxide. all parts are equal liquid volumes. Recipe from Muzzleblasts mag from the 1980's./ I use it for my flintlock competition (blackpowder). Works great. I wipe down bore and outside with Marvel Mystery Oil when done shooting/cleaning. Never had any rust.
Don't know how it works on "synthetic" black powder.
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