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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support

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Come on, man. Don't be so rash. Can we talk about it?

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Not sure what your issue(s) are, but each successive Liberal govt has moved us further to the socialist left.
When we do manage to elect a conservative govt , they don’t last long enough to repair much of the damage inflicted.

And so the pendulum swings …


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What a load of crap. GD

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Originally Posted by greydog
What a load of crap. GD

Agreed. It would be interesting to know the rational. The statement would be similar to a Canadian saying all Americans are arrogant.



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What is your reasoning?

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I am not keeping up with all your law changes for firearms, but I just heard from a friend that his buddy in Ontario has quite a few Remington 742's and now they are illegal??? Is that so?


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Good morning to you, I trust it's morning already out in Michigan - still dark here in southern BC - and that you're well.

There was up until a few days ago an amendment to the Liberal/NDP/Green/BQ supported firearm bill C21 which laid the groundwork to ban at least half of the firearms in Canada immediately and then the rest through the use of the term "variant".

Included in the immediate bans were Weatherby Mk V, Christenson Arms, Ruger No 1, Brazilian Mauser, Mauser sporter and the list went on for 378 pages.

This was an amendment to a bill that has essentially banned all handguns and most semi auto center fire rifles.

We - hopefully we anyways - but a bunch of us Canadians through our gun rights groups mounted a letter writing, social media and public information campaign that might have made them blink - for now.

They want no firearms in the hands of any of us.

We'll see.

I'm cognizant that's not an answer, but that's where we're at as of today.

All the best regardless of the interesting times we find ourselves in.

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Originally Posted by blanket
Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support
You don't throw a beer in someone's face and walk away.

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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support

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Morning to you, I hope that your section of Iowa is getting the winter you needed and you're well.

For sure we should all inform ourselves as to what's going on around us using the best sources possible, then make wise decisions and act accordingly.

If that's where you're at, then I can respect your decision.

Are you aware of Operation Yellow Ribbon by the way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellow_Ribbon

If that is new to you, perhaps watch a couple short videos on how Gander, NFld housed thousands of people, mostly US folks and all bound for the US.

Once you're read up on that, investigate how the reports of 911 terrorists coming into the US were pure unmitigated BS strewn about by your legacy media.

When the US decided to head into Afghanistan after 911, we were asked to send combat troops and we did and they died along side and sometimes saving US combat personnel. There was a US Afghanistan vet who stated here on the 'Fire he and his group were alive because of the efforts of the Princess Patricia's group out of Edmonton.

After that - should you be so inclined - you might be interested to learn how the US trade policies under Obama affected US trade with the US's largest trading partner.

Again, I could type quite a bit, but far be it from me to attempt to change someone's mind who has already made it up, you know?

Best to you regardless of which side of the medicine line you choose to stay.

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ALWAYS the gentleman.

Yep and that is why he Won a Beaver Award.

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Originally Posted by blanket
Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support

Well, that explains that......., sort of. Actually not, but you be you. Full disclosure: My Canadian friends are some of my best. I'm sure they'll be crushed that you'll not be joining them this year.

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What a load of crap. GD

Agreed. It would be interesting to know the rational. The statement would be similar to a Canadian saying all Americans are arrogant.

Arrogant? Nonsense.

Fat? Yeah, for certain😜


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Anything we can say about Canada , can be said for the USA. As for me, I thought Canada was great . We went there on our Honeymoon in 1987 to Sault Ste Marie , Canada , just above Michigan . It was such a nice town and even asked a waiter if a lot of Americans come here to live. She looked at me funny and said not at all. Fast forward to 2019 we went back. The place was not the same town. Gang signs, garbage and a much lower class of residence lived there on average. I can say that about so many small towns in America. They were nice though.. Kind of sad there is friction between the countries. I would go back,, but I could not for a few yrs. cause I am not vaccinated. USA still mandates the Vax. I got used to just going to Upper Michigan and happy to fish there. Still might go back to Canada though too. Our leadership is terrible on both sides of the border. I think we can all agree on that.


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After 30+ years of working and traveling in virtually every populated province in Canada as well as most US states I have come to the conclusion that there is not a hell of a lot of difference between them. In general, I have found Canadians to be honest, generous and straightforward ... as are Americans. If anything, Canadians do seem to carry themselves with a bit more dignity than the average poster on the Campfire

There are exceptions but they are generally easily recognized and avoided. Most of us Americans have already developed and honed that skill locally.

I have noticed Canadians share with their southern neighbors a trait of reflecting back a pissy attitude when confronted with it. Treat people with dignity and you will receive the same. Is it possible the source of your problems with Canadians can be seen in a mirror?

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Travelled in the states enough to know that there is not much of a difference between our culters, excluding Queerbec of course.

I have been eating KFC and watching NFL since I was 9 years old, as American and as Apple Pie as you can get lol

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I have hunted in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan. All beautiful country. Plus, my wife and I went on a week-long fishing trip East of Vancouver for our honeymoon. I have found Western Canadians to be some of the nicest people I have ever met.
Plus, we seemed in agreement on everything. I had to smile when I saw Queerbec in Killer Bee's post. Yep, I heard that a few times up there. :-)

My wife and I have been watching the TV series "Heartland" lately. I knew after the first episode this had to be Alberta. Just a couple nights ago, I was explaining to her that Western Canadians are much like us and not fond of Queerbec. LOL

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Good morning to you sir - well it's still morning here in south central BC - I hope all is well as can be with you, all things considered in our respective and collective sections of the world.

Thanks for the reply that you and the other folks have taken the time to add, I appreciate it.

To any of the US 'Fire folks reading who've not come up onto our side of the medicine line, way WAY back in the day we started a bit of an "information package" of sorts for visiting hunters but it's got information for any travelers truly.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...60/planning-a-hunt-in-canada#Post6042560

If any of you reading are heading into our part of the world that is up Highway 97 and you have specific questions about well whatever you think a local might be able to assist with, please feel free to PM me. I'll do my best to either answer or find somewhere an answer exists - if possible.

Some questions like - is "this" firearm now banned are tougher because of the situation we find ourselves in politically. We're working on it folks, honest we are, but it's sort of like asking what the gas and diesel fuel prices might be this summer - who know right?

That said, the gasbuddy.com website works for most places up here, unlike your cell phone which might not in the mountains! wink

Anyways, if I can help I will be glad to.

All the best to one and all on both sides of the medicine line.

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North Montanans are good folks in my book. Their government is a bit kooky, mostly run by back east loons.

Kinda similar to ours.

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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Travelled in the states enough to know that there is not much of a difference between our culters, excluding Queerbec of course.

I have been eating KFC and watching NFL since I was 9 years old, as American and as Apple Pie as you can get lol

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The very first time I ate Kentucky Fried Chicken was in Calgary, Alberta, in 1957. We were moving from Wyoming to northern B.C. at the time and there was a hotel restaurant which served KFC. It became SOP for us to stop on our way on each trip. I cannot remember when I first ate KFC south of the line. At this time, Calgary was pretty metropolitan in comparison to what we were used to (Worland, Wyoming and Moscow, Idaho). GD

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Well, Canadian's vary alot from coast to coast( to coast).
Yeah, Ottawa ( like D.C.) doesn't represent Westerners well at all.
Central Canada more or less controls our Federal politics, their emphasis is on Southern Ontario and Quebec.
What exactly , is your statement about?
Would you like Trudeau to get along better with Biden?
Both are hit by the same hammer, their politics are nearly identical. Too bad for both of us.

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Originally Posted by blanket
Why I will never return, spend money in Canada
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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support

All of Canada is devastated at this turn of events.

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Good morning to you sir - well it's still morning here in south central BC - I hope all is well as can be with you, all things considered in our respective and collective sections of the world.

Thanks for the reply that you and the other folks have taken the time to add, I appreciate it.

To any of the US 'Fire folks reading who've not come up onto our side of the medicine line, way WAY back in the day we started a bit of an "information package" of sorts for visiting hunters but it's got information for any travelers truly.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...60/planning-a-hunt-in-canada#Post6042560

If any of you reading are heading into our part of the world that is up Highway 97 and you have specific questions about well whatever you think a local might be able to assist with, please feel free to PM me. I'll do my best to either answer or find somewhere an answer exists - if possible.

Some questions like - is "this" firearm now banned are tougher because of the situation we find ourselves in politically. We're working on it folks, honest we are, but it's sort of like asking what the gas and diesel fuel prices might be this summer - who know right?

That said, the gasbuddy.com website works for most places up here, unlike your cell phone which might not in the mountains! wink

Anyways, if I can help I will be glad to.

All the best to one and all on both sides of the medicine line.

Dwayne

Good evening Dwayne,

I sure hope all is well on the West side of the Rockies. Spring is just around the corner, soon be time to get the fly-rod out! Headed to Calgary tomorrow to attend the CSAAA tradeshow but I'll be crossing the Bow River at some point to get there. Wonder if it is ice free yet????
Great reference to the "Planning a Hunt in Canada" thread. I wonder if we should maybe take a look at it for some updates as it has been there a while.
It sure is frustrating to be continuously wondering if we can still use our firearms day to day.
On top of the issues a ban of any type of hunting arms will make for us, the devastation to the tourism industry would also be immense! I have mentioned that issue in a number of letters and position papers I have written, the replies have consisted of crickets. The Liberals just don't seem to care about the outdoor life many of us live and in many ways, attempt to share with visitors to Canada.
Stay safe my friend,
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Jeff;
Good evening to you my cyber friend, thanks so much for the response and well wishes.

Please feel free to update that thread as you see fit and learn of anything visiting hunters might find useful. The same goes for anyone who can add helpful stuff for sure.

Regarding tourism, specifically outdoor tourism and hunting, the page I'm currently on Jeff is that the sooner it goes away and we're all stuck in our houses in big cities, the happier the folks who pull Socks' strings will be.

I know that sounds crazy on several levels, but the fiscal policies, the constant mistruths and out and out fabrications, the insane levels of spending without regard for where it might ever be funded has brought me to that conclusion.

While they might say they're okay with FN folks hunting, they don't say anywhere they have agreed they have to do it with firearms as far as I can read.

If alternate income streams were ever a consideration, we'd not own a pipeline that has pumped nothing for years or be fixated on an alternate energy program that isn't remotely achievable even if the entire population vanished tonight.

That all said, life is about change and ebbs and flows Jeff. If we can make enough like minded people wake up to see what's being done and what we can accomplish, then we'll see meaningful change.

We'll see.

I hope that with events like the tradeshow you're attending we'll gain more people to our side and as we've said before, we have to at least try right?

All the best.

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Originally Posted by blanket
Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support

The ignorant and dumb usually do not recognize that they are ignorant and dumb. The OP confirms it.

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Have travelled quite a bit in Canada, been fishing the last 12 years(except covid shutdown). Just like US meet some very nice people and a few you don't need to see again. I have no problem spending some money north of the border.

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I have no problem spending some money north of the border.

Same.


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I have no problem spending some money north of the border.

As do the untold 1000s of CDNs that go south of the border for all manner of reasons.

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BC is great, not as great as the people that live there though...
but I gotta say, the official face of the Canadian border authority is the sorriest, most arrogant, rude, wannabe badasses ever collected by one employer. Every kid in Canada that didn't have any friends in school or was picked on now has a badge working the POE's.
One good side to that however, it helps put Alaska Marine Highways in the black.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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but I gotta say, the official face of the Canadian border authority is the sorriest, most arrogant, rude, wannabe badasses ever collected by one employer. Every kid in Canada that didn't have any friends in school or was picked on now has a badge working the POE's.

That's weird .... I live close to the border and cross over a lot.

Nothing serious, but I've had more hassles going into your country than coming back into mine.

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but I gotta say, the official face of the Canadian border authority is the sorriest, most arrogant, rude, wannabe badasses ever collected by one employer. Every kid in Canada that didn't have any friends in school or was picked on now has a badge working the POE's.

That's weird .... I live close to the border and cross over a lot.

Nothing serious, but I've had more hassles going into your country than coming back into mine.
Yeah, I have never crossed anywhere but BC, so my mouth got carried away, but from the treatment I received at Peace Arch stayed in my mind. Seemed like every trip to Alaska I was accused of smuggling, sowing seeds of anarchy, overthrow of the Canada govt, at the least. I do not look like a hippie, never arrested, no tats or earrings, I keep my mouth shut and just answer when questioned, but have been detained at length and searched every time. Tok and Sumas is scarcely better. I wonder now, if I am flagged some way in the US and the Canadians are tipped off, but there is always the possibility that I am just ugly.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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My experience is the US is worse than Canada.


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flintlocke;
Good morning to you sir, I hope your section of Jefferson State is getting enough snow or moisture this winter that it'll do some good and that you're well.

The chap I cowboyed for on weekends sometimes and was part of his branding crew for 27 odd years also worked for Canada Customs as it used to be known as until he retired from it after 30 plus years. On the branding crew was another fellow who worked 25 plus years for Canada Customs and until he passed we also had an RCMP Sargent who'd join in.

Sometimes the conversation was pretty instructive.

The short version of the guess I'm about to make regarding your experience would be as follows.

They - that is to say Canada Border Services Agency - are a pretty broad swath of humanity and as such have sterling examples of fine upstanding humans and then some malignant rectal orifices as well. If said MRO behaves well enough to pass probation and become a full fledged member of the CBSA they are then represented by the Public Service Alliance of Canada Union - who will usually fight tooth and nail to keep all sorts of their members still gainfully employed.

Much to the chagrin of management sometimes as you can well imagine.

As well, sometimes one is just plain old unlucky and ends up behind either a Karen or some other wonderful representative of your country of origin and yes you and the next half a dozen people may pay for Karen's indiscretions. Sad that's the case but true.

It can also be that the CBSA agent you get has goofed up and let some try miscreant into the country recently - it got traced back to them - they received a well deserved mastication of the hindquarters sort of meeting and have taken it to heart. Again no fault of your own, you just drew the short straw.

Before 911 and when we lived a wee bit closer to the medicine line, we used to head down to Oroville for a tank of gas, jug of milk and a pound of cheese sort of run - and hey, it was something to do too in what was a pretty sleepy place back then.

There was one particular US Border Patrol agent everybody hoped not to get questioned by. I'm not sure where he'd come from, but he just couldn't wrap his head around driving a half hour to save $20 so he was sure we were up to something. By we I do mean the entire line of Canucks headed down into Ben Prince's parking lot too, because back then it was 8 out of 10 cars there had BC plates.

Anyways, on behalf of the segment of BC which appreciates the income stream supplied by tourists from all nations but especially our good neighbors to the south, I'll apologize for the bad behavior most certainly but at the same time assure you it's out of our control for the most part for reasons stated above.

If you ever wander up through the 97 drop me a PM and I'll do my best to get some coffee into you or if they're open some decent hard ice cream at the stand down on the highway.

Best to you.

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Dwayne, thanks for the reply to my question about your gun rules. I hope the best for you and your fellow countrymen. We down here are in a perpetual fight for our rights too, and it isn't looking good with the present administration..


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Originally Posted by blanket
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Sorry you feel that way. We'll survive without your few pennies.


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My experience is the US is worse than Canada.
Then get the F out.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
My experience is the US is worse than Canada.

AH NO

We spend several months a year in the US, have had zero issues and the areas we frequent people are open, friendly and hospitable.

Canada has a group of children running our country and I have heard your governing teams described as morning cereal – a mixture of nuts, flakes and fruits. Same analogy could be applied to ours.

If your US experience is bad then it must be big cities like Chicago, Detroit, Miami or St Louis (all of which I have spent time in) and I can assure you we have similar problems in big cities like Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal.

Other than the military, the US can do resolve and your “for now” firearm freedoms we are more alike than we are different.



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Have been to BC several times. Rifle competition, camping, fishing, just popping around enjoying the place.

In 2017 I decided to drive through BC & Yukon to Alaska, hunt there and drive back. Breathtaking scenery and all sorts of good people along the way!

A couple of grizzlies too. smile

I was pleased that it was so easy to get a permit to travel through Canada with my rifle. The only hassle I had with the rifle was coming back into the US, with an over-zealous USA border person. That was pretty easily dealt with, using a bit of humor and patience and being on good terms with her supervisor.

Canada eh? You bet we'll be back!

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Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!


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Originally Posted by Puddle
Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!
The guiding and outfitting has really taken a direct hit because of the mandates. It had to do with transferring control of a resource, rather than health.

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I've only had a car keyed once, and that was on a Christmastime trip to central Alberta to visit relatives. Can't remember if there was some sort of timber or oil trade issue afoot, but we were conspicuously the only yankees in that neck of the woods that time of year.

Dad got an "oh, sorry (pronounced "sorey")" from some douche-age (early 30s) private anglers at the dock on vancouver island when they dropped our salmon scale into the drink, that they asked to borrow. No offer to make right. Haven't seen similar behavior from guide outfits as they know their customer base and the origin of their fish!

Canadian border patrol will ignore your truck-and-trailer full of personal effects if transporting firearms. Go in, complete the paperwork, get back underway, and not a word about the rest. Sampling of two instances.

I don't put the average Canuck on any sort of behavioral pedestal. Like their counterparts south of the line, there are more good than bad.

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luckily most canadians wont change their mind based on the op and will welcome any visiting coming from usa like the usa people are doing when we re there ...

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I've crossed many times, I was married to a gal from Regina. I had way more bad experiences with US border people than with the Canadian ones. The US side were jerks.


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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's why should we support


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With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.


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With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
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With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
WTF?! I said I'm sorry!

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With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
Originally Posted by ironbender
With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
WTF?! I said I'm sorry!

kolofardos;

laugh laugh laugh laugh

And... well....

You should be!

Likely.

Maybe.....


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Thanks for the laugh sir.

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I can understand the frustration and over the past several years it’s only gotten more frustrating but I’ve always liked and respected the “native” Canadian, not the newly minted just off the boat ones. The Canadian government is definitely a collection of screwball liberals but so is our government! Canada doesn’t beat the USA in stupid ideas and gross abuse of our rights, unfortunately both our countries are suffering from political ineptitude, corruption and “wokeness”.

My fondness for my northern neighbor has been built over a lifetime of visiting and interacting with Canadians. They’re always polite, helpful and fun to hang with so I won’t let these impotent and useless politicians of either country blur the lines between government and The People.


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I've crossed many times, I was married to a gal from Regina. I had way more bad experiences with US border people than with the Canadian ones. The US side were jerks.

Without a doubt. I had one cock sucker Philippino US border guard give me attitude when I wanted to come back into the US. I asked him when he got off the boat and told him he needed to learn English better which he didn’t like and I didn’t GAF since he can’t prevent me, a US citizen, from lawfully entering my country. We had words and I told him what I thought of his affirmative action job and a short comment about how annoying it is having some little brown guy that can’t speak English try to Jack up a REAL citizen of this country. It ended with a fu.ck you and a middle finger after he determined that we were 100% in compliance and he was impotent to prevent us from coming home despite our not kissing his little brown ass. 😂 The 3 of us in the truck were returning from a week of fishing on V.I BC and that interaction with the US border douche was the first negative interaction we’d had all week and I made a point of letting him know that as well.

The Canadian border guards have always been nice people.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by boatammo
I've crossed many times, I was married to a gal from Regina. I had way more bad experiences with US border people than with the Canadian ones. The US side were jerks.

Without a doubt. I had one cock sucker Philippino US border guard give me attitude when I wanted to come back into the US. I asked him when he got off the boat and told him he needed to learn English better which he didn’t like and I didn’t GAF since he can’t prevent me, a US citizen, from lawfully entering my country. We had words and I told him what I thought of his affirmative action job and a short comment about how annoying it is having some little brown guy that can’t speak English try to Jack up a REAL citizen of this country. It ended with a fu.ck you and a middle finger after he determined that we were 100% in compliance and he was impotent to prevent us from coming home despite our not kissing his little brown ass. 😂 The 3 of us in the truck were returning from a week of fishing on V.I BC and that interaction with the US border douche was the first negative interaction we’d had all week and I made a point of letting him know that as well.

The Canadian border guards have always been nice people.

Good afternoon AcesNeights, I trust you are doing great!

That surprises me Philippino's are typically pretty nice at Tim Hortons when they serve me coffee lol.

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Lol. I’ve never had much luck with that group and I’ve come to the conclusion that by and large they comprise the worst of the Asian DNA and the worst of the Spanish/Portuguese DNA. I’ve been exposed to enough of them to be comfortable in my opinion. 😀

You have more trust and faith in them than I do my friend, my wife makes my coffee. 😀


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I make my own as well every morning, cant imaging waking up without a coffee!

Honestly, Tim Hortons is over rated, I prefer McDonalds, way better and costs less.

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Good morning to you, I trust it's morning already out in Michigan - still dark here in southern BC - and that you're well.

There was up until a few days ago an amendment to the Liberal/NDP/Green/BQ supported firearm bill C21 which laid the groundwork to ban at least half of the firearms in Canada immediately and then the rest through the use of the term "variant".

Included in the immediate bans were Weatherby Mk V, Christenson Arms, Ruger No 1, Brazilian Mauser, Mauser sporter and the list went on for 378 pages.

This was an amendment to a bill that has essentially banned all handguns and most semi auto center fire rifles.

We - hopefully we anyways - but a bunch of us Canadians through our gun rights groups mounted a letter writing, social media and public information campaign that might have made them blink - for now.

They want no firearms in the hands of any of us.

We'll see.

I'm cognizant that's not an answer, but that's where we're at as of today.

All the best regardless of the interesting times we find ourselves in.

Dwayne

The pure absurdity of banning the Weatherby Mark V bolt action rifles is comical if it didn't effect me. The logic make zero sense as with most things the liberal F's do.

Just this past November I hunted in Sask with my .300 Wby Mark V. It is my favorite rifle for things bigger than Whitetail Pronghorn. And my favorite plains game rifle in Africa. When I go back to Canada I will not be allowed to bring that rifle.

So now I have to use my Win Model 70 in 30-06 or buy another 300 Wby that is built on a Rem 700 or Win 70 action. It's just dumb

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by boatammo
I've crossed many times, I was married to a gal from Regina. I had way more bad experiences with US border people than with the Canadian ones. The US side were jerks.

Without a doubt. I had one cock sucker Philippino US border guard give me attitude when I wanted to come back into the US. I asked him when he got off the boat and told him he needed to learn English better which he didn’t like and I didn’t GAF since he can’t prevent me, a US citizen, from lawfully entering my country. We had words and I told him what I thought of his affirmative action job and a short comment about how annoying it is having some little brown guy that can’t speak English try to Jack up a REAL citizen of this country. It ended with a fu.ck you and a middle finger after he determined that we were 100% in compliance and he was impotent to prevent us from coming home despite our not kissing his little brown ass. 😂 The 3 of us in the truck were returning from a week of fishing on V.I BC and that interaction with the US border douche was the first negative interaction we’d had all week and I made a point of letting him know that as well.

The Canadian border guards have always been nice people.

Isn't it weird how they still want to have a border on the north side of the country but pretend we don't have one on the south side???

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It is incredible to me that the effort the puffed up little guys on our side of the northern border to pretend they’re doing something while the southern border is wide open. Then some brown clown wants to try to give me crap trying to come into my native country while he’s still taking ESL classes at night? Not gonna play…


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Wabigoon, you are so correct, “they have authority, I have little” and soon to be less if we keep heading in our current direction. This is for both nations.

It is amazing what a little bit of authority does to certain individuals. I once worked in a national organization with training departments in every region. Most regions treated its new employees well during training but in one region the trainers were actual bullies. The course participants called the training boot camp. This isn’t all that long ago. This region had a drop out rate of 90%. It was ridiculous and all because the trainers were given a slight bit of authority over other employees.

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Originally Posted by Termin8r
The pure absurdity of banning the Weatherby Mark V bolt action rifles is comical if it didn't effect me. The logic make zero sense as with most things the liberal F's do.

Just this past November I hunted in Sask with my .300 Wby Mark V. It is my favorite rifle for things bigger than Whitetail Pronghorn. And my favorite plains game rifle in Africa. When I go back to Canada I will not be allowed to bring that rifle.

So now I have to use my Win Model 70 in 30-06 or buy another 300 Wby that is built on a Rem 700 or Win 70 action. It's just dumb

Good morning Termin8r,

Agreed! I almost blew a casket when I heard Mark V's were on the list, after digging into it, I do not belive that the .300 was on the list, if memory serves it was the MARK V® SAFARI, but I could be wrong. Another moronic Liberal Government attempt in banning all rifles.

I have a .300 Weatherby Mark V, I customized mine and I bought it specifically for elk and for plains game if I ever make it to Africa.

You are the second person I have heard say it's your favorite Plains Game rifle. Which Mark V do you own? I own an Ultra Lightweight, that I modified. Great rifle now, shot like crap out of the box. I shoot Nosler Trophy Grade ABLRs in 190 gr.

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I know I'm lookin/ forward to getting back to Wabigoon.


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We know that the OP doesn't mean all Canadians, just the ignorant America-phobic Liberals that dominate our media and pop culture, and unfortunately our federal government for the last few decades. You can spot these arseholes immediately - they'll always look down their noses and make some stupid comment how they think they're better, or that they're NOT American. They truly have an inferiority complex for some reason and always have to try to make themselves feel better by bashing Americans. They're childish and ignorant.

We know we're a great trading partnership. We know we have relatives on both sides of the border. We know we are about as similar as two countries' cultures could be. Look at our shared history and teamwork in so many areas.

I wish I could not send any money to Ottawa and not support these criminal parasites.


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We spent a lot of time in our "youth" (a relative term) racing in Canada (Westwood, Calgary and even on Vancouver Island). We always enjoyed the Canadians and never had any issues crossing the border. The only time we had a problem was trying to come back into the US through Sandpoint, Idaho. We were delayed for hours since my formula car didn't have a title. I tried to explain that formula cars did not have titles as they were never on the street. The border guard was having none of it and kept patting his revolver as he walked around the car. We finally got a supervisor involved and got the issue resolved. As always we make a distinction between the people and the politicians.

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On the border crossings generally we have had good experiences going both ways.

One time going down for a hunt in the US I had preregistered my blackpowder firearm -- at the crossing the fellow in Montana asked why I did this when I did not have to. I said I that I knew that but I just wanted to avoid any possible complications. He said good move as Homeland Security has no clue on blackpowder vs centre fire. He then asked what I was hunting and when I said bison he brought out pictures of one he got, asked where I was going, gave suggestions -- just a great discussion. Now fast forward a week and I am coming back. Get to the Canadian side and all is good --- then the border guard says we have a note that you need to go back over to the US side. Go back over and it was the same US Customs agent wanting to see pictures and ask how the hunt went. Good experience at a very low traffic site.



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In all the years I have driven across the borders I only had one issue , that was at the Cornwall Ontario crossing in 1970.
No biggy, they just went through the car checking for stuff, then we were on our way. Had several friends turned back for various old infrations when flying to Vegas , everything from DUI's to being fingerprinted but never charged after being involved in illegal activities .
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Originally Posted by kolofardos
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With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
Originally Posted by ironbender
With one notable exception, I have found our Canuck neighbors to be polite, friendly, and helpful.
WTF?! I said I'm sorry!
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If in drought, call ahead.

And when you do, you'll find out they don't know their own rules.

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Originally Posted by Puddle
Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!


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My experience is that the US border guards are worse than the canucks, and the Canadian DOT is worse than the US. And that is saying something.

I used to go up to Canada dozens of times a year for business and family reasons. The Pols killed that business with their Covidiocy, but it also clearly pointed out that I am a member of a small fringe minority with unacceptable views, and don’t feel welcome at all.


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Interesting views. First, its the US Border Patrol-not "guards".

In 2017 my wife and I were at Glacier Park and we decided to try
Waterton-Prince of Wales hotel. We neglected to bring our
passports. But I did bring a Federal retired badge and ID-as an INS Agent along with an old RCMP
card from a friendly Mountie.
Mr. Blackthorn I think the Inspector's name was. He stated passport or not, he decided
who came into Canada - at the small crossing near Waterton. He then stated you folks come in and stay as long as
you want.
Don't forget it was the Princess Pats who lost their troops as well as ours in the outback Middle East.

At any rate-politicians are the problem across the board and border. I am still a combat VN veteran, retired LTC and
Federale. Thomas Paine and T. Jefferson along with Louis Riel valued their freedoms and watched their politicians...

Albert Johnson did shoot RCMP Constable Edgar Millen-near the Rat River in the 1930s ..but the Mounties did get him.

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Originally Posted by 450Fuller
Mr. Blackthorn I think the Inspector's name was. He stated passport or not, he decided
who came into Canada - at the small crossing near Waterton. He then stated you folks come in and stay as long as you want.

At any rate-politicians are the problem across the board and border. I am still a combat VN veteran, retired LTC and

Thank you for your service 450Fuller,

That customs officer is correct, individual officers have the authority to make discretionary decisions.

I have only been stopped once from crossing the border at the airport customs when I worked for a corporation with its head office in Chicago. Told the agent I was going to a business meeting in Chicago, but he would not let me through and he said we don't like Canadians taking our jobs.

I never had a DUI or a criminal record, so there was absolutely no reason to stop me. Traveled for business many times after that but never said I was going on business ever again.

I find that border crossing agents at remote locations are very friendly, never had any issues with them.

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I've never been to Canada, but I'll keep sending money up there for stuff. My delete and tune kit came from Canada, as did my truck. I also had a muzzle brake for a 18.5" long H&R 10ga that was made in Canada.

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Originally Posted by Skatchewan
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Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!

You are welcome!!

Don't laugh ...... Maybe a moose hunt is cheaper in Africa.

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Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
I've never been to Canada, but I'll keep sending money up there for stuff. My delete and tune kit came from Canada, as did my truck. I also had a muzzle brake for a 18.5" long H&R 10ga that was made in Canada.

Hi Verylargeboots, if I was American, I would buy everything I could in Canada. Buying Canadian is brilliant, especially the same products sold on each side of our borders because you save a lot of $$$.

If I were an American I would buy everything I could in Canada, and pocket the exchange rate.

"A Penny Saved is a Penny Earned"

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Originally Posted by KillerBee
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I've never been to Canada, but I'll keep sending money up there for stuff. My delete and tune kit came from Canada, as did my truck. I also had a muzzle brake for a 18.5" long H&R 10ga that was made in Canada.

Hi Verylargeboots, if I was American, I would buy everything I could in Canada. Buying Canadian is brilliant, especially the same products sold on each side of our borders because you save a lot of $$$.

If I were an American I would buy everything I could in Canada, and pocket the exchange rate.

"A penny Saved is a Penny Earned"

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I thought the cost of living was a lot higher in Canada though. Is that due to taxes and not due to the cost of tangible goods?

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I've never been to Canada, but I'll keep sending money up there for stuff. My delete and tune kit came from Canada, as did my truck. I also had a muzzle brake for a 18.5" long H&R 10ga that was made in Canada.

Hi Verylargeboots, if I was American, I would buy everything I could in Canada. Buying Canadian is brilliant, especially the same products sold on each side of our borders because you save a lot of $$$.

If I were an American I would buy everything I could in Canada, and pocket the exchange rate.

"A penny Saved is a Penny Earned"

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I thought the cost of living was a lot higher in Canada though. Is that due to taxes and not due to the cost of tangible goods?

Both and Everything!

Canadians get hammered by our Brain Dead government to pay for their "Socialist BS" Cost of living, taxes everything!

Let me give you a good example, a bottle of 1.75 liter Smirnoff Vodka where I live costs $64.00 CDN, the equivalent in the USA 60 oz. I believe the Last time I bought a bottle of the same in Key West I paid $28.00 USD.

I am thinking of placing an ad on this site to help our American friends save a lot of $$$.

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Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!

You are welcome!!

Don't laugh ...... Maybe a moose hunt is cheaper in Africa.


A Newfoundland moose hunt ? I thought they are pretty reasonable----plus you can drive there

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the only problem i ever had was coming back thru on the American side and that was only once . i hit a deer once also on a fishig trip, and had to be towed in , a Canadian Monty was very hopeful that night which made me very grateful for his help on that trip and the Canadian Chevrolet dealer worked on our Blazer right away so we lost only a half day of muskie fishing . those Canadians i have delt with have always been super people to deal with. >> the only people i have ever had problems with are some liberal Americans that live in large cities they seem to feel entitled .


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Just the Canadian government continues to hose their people. Have watched the leftists in power for fifty years screw the country. Now they have the the US defend their airspace

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

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Lately, I've been using the cost of a Canada Moose hunt to justify why I just go back to Africa...

Thanks Canada!

You are welcome!!

Don't laugh ...... Maybe a moose hunt is cheaper in Africa.


A Newfoundland moose hunt ? I thought they are pretty reasonable----plus you can drive there

Yup .... BTDT. The ferry terminal going over is chock full of Americans during moose season.

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Now they have the the US defend their airspace

Thank-you for saving us from the merchants of evil.

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

SuperCub;
Good morning my old friend, I hope that you and your fine family are well.

Way back in the day my late parents did a bus tour across the country to the east coast in fall and the photos of your part of the world south through New York and Pennsylvania were stunning.

We just don't get those colors in fall.

It's on our bucket list to drive across the country and do that some year too, so we'll see.

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I have found most Canadians to be good people! The government is a piece of crap. I'm a firm believer, we should have moved our border, to the north pole when we sent the British home! Plus moved the southern border to Panama, when Pershing was there. 😎

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

I live 10 minutes from Lancaster County.

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

I live 10 minutes from Lancaster County.

I grew up in southern Ontario very close to a large Mennonite population around St Jacobs area. My father did business through the farm with them. I miss being there and around those farms.

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

SuperCub;
Good morning my old friend, I hope that you and your fine family are well.

Way back in the day my late parents did a bus tour across the country to the east coast in fall and the photos of your part of the world south through New York and Pennsylvania were stunning.

We just don't get those colors in fall.

It's on our bucket list to drive across the country and do that some year too, so we'll see.

All the best to you all.

Dwayne


He Dwayne .... I've been through Cape Breton and the New England States during the leafs. It's would be well worth the time to see. NH and Vermont are second to none.

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Are you guys talking about Lancaster Ontario on the St. Lawrence River just west of the Quebec border?

Caught my biggest Pike there, great Pearch and Muskie fishing there as well.

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Are you guys talking about Lancaster Ontario on the St. Lawrence River just west of the Quebec border?

Caught my biggest Pike there, great Pearch and Muskie fishing there as well.

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I'm a firm believer, we should have moved our border, to the north pole when we sent the British home! Plus moved the southern border to Panama, when Pershing was there. 😎

LOL .... Isn't that the same type of colonialism that you tossed the British out for?

Typical American hogwash thinking everyone would be better off if they were all American. The British did the same thing.

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I may not want to return to Canada either, but I don't know if I am even allowed to leave?

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
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I'm a firm believer, we should have moved our border, to the north pole when we sent the British home! Plus moved the southern border to Panama, when Pershing was there. 😎

LOL .... Isn't that the same type of colonialism that you tossed the British out for?

Typical American hogwash thinking everyone would be better off if they were all American. The British did the same thing.

Seems more like expansion than colonialism. Yea, I know, tomAto vs tomato. Hogwash? Sure, we got plenty. How about you guys keep both your E & W coasts? We’ll throw in Seattle, Portland, NYC, LA and Chicago. 😁

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I'm a firm believer, we should have moved our border, to the north pole when we sent the British home! Plus moved the southern border to Panama, when Pershing was there. 😎

LOL .... Isn't that the same type of colonialism that you tossed the British out for?

Typical American hogwash thinking everyone would be better off if they were all American. The British did the same thing.

Seems more like expansion than colonialism. Yea, I know, tomAto vs tomato. Hogwash? Sure, we got plenty. How about you guys keep both your E & W coasts? We’ll throw in Seattle, Portland, NYC, LA and Chicago. 😁

You can have Southern Ontario and Quebec. Trust me. smile

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You can have all of Canada, in a fair trade for 1 state, Florida. With the conditions that all illegal immigrants are thrown out of the state first, and we get elk-hunting privileges in Colorado, Montana and Wyoming.

Deal?

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Supercub, is rural eastern Ontario okay? Premier Ford doesn’t know we exist. He thinks the world ends at Kingston.

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Supercub, is rural eastern Ontario okay? Premier Ford doesn’t know we exist. He thinks the world ends at Kingston.

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I grew up in S. Ontario. The GTA, Hamilton and down to London is the big wart there. I always liked Eastern Ont. smile

Ford doesn't knw about you because there's not many votes there. It's kinda like dealing with Ottawa and living down East.

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Now they have the the US defend their airspace

Thank-you for saving us from the merchants of evil.

Don’t mention it. We’ve gotten really good at shooting down hobby club balloons recently. It only takes us a couple of missiles to neutralize the threat a $40cdn ($3.00usd) balloon from hobbyist balloon fliers poses to our national security….I mean you understand how serious we are about our national sovereignty, our airspace and our borders, right? 😂😂

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

I live 10 minutes from Lancaster County.

I grew up in southern Ontario very close to a large Mennonite population around St Jacobs area. My father did business through the farm with them. I miss being there and around those farms.
Then you'll like parts of Lancaster County. But Berks County is even better

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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

I live 10 minutes from Lancaster County.

I grew up in southern Ontario very close to a large Mennonite population around St Jacobs area. My father did business through the farm with them. I miss being there and around those farms.
Then you'll like parts of Lancaster County. But Berks County is even better

Thanks for that tip. smile

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Now they have the the US defend their airspace
Thank-you for saving us from the merchants of evil.
Don’t mention it. We’ve gotten really good at shooting down hobby club balloons recently. It only takes us a couple of missiles to neutralize the threat a $40cdn ($3.00usd) balloon from hobbyist balloon fliers poses to our national security….I mean you understand how serious we are about our national sovereignty, our airspace and our borders, right? 😂😂

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... Canadians vote Liberal for legal dope and government handouts then complain about lefty liberal policies for the next four years
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Yup .... We only have the voters to thank where we are now.

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Originally Posted by pricedo
... Canadians vote Liberal for legal dope and government handouts then complain about lefty liberal policies for the next four years
... next election ... REPEAT

Never voted for a Liberal in my Life!

I miss my pot dealer and good old fashioned BC Skunk Weed, better pot than what you buy in the pot stores!

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Canada - leave your sidearm at the border and come into our bear den.

Sounds like New York hey? lol

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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's....


Bullsh*t.



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Canada has not been US friends since the 1990's....


Bullsh*t.

Thank you smokepole!

blanket, here is an interesting fact for you sir.

More than 40,000 Canadian Armed Forces members served in the 12-year campaign. The war killed 165 Canadians — 158 soldiers and 7 civilians. Many Canadian veterans of the war in Afghanistan suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder, with a high suicide rate.

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Canada - leave your sidearm at the border and come into our bear den.

Sounds like New York hey? lol

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Americans think New York voted to be part of Canada.


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Canada - leave your sidearm at the border and come into our bear den.

Sounds like New York hey? lol

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Americans think New York voted to be part of Canada.

They most likely thought Andrew Cuomo was the President of the USA as well lol

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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Canada - leave your sidearm at the border and come into our bear den.

SheriffJoe;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope the last day of February has been going more or less acceptably for you and you're well.

With the understanding that I'm not complaining whatsoever now, have camped in all sorts of "beary" areas stateside and will again in the future the Good Lord willing.

At one time we were able to bring a firearm down into the US for hunting or competition purposes. After 911 that got more and more complicated so it's theoretically possible now, but friends who used to hunt Wyoming for pronghorn have given up because of the ATF paperwork.

We can't even bring bear spray south of the medicine line, but we can purchase the very same stuff in a US store as we left at home and that's fine.

Of course we can't bring it back into Canada either because - reasons - even though again we've got a can hanging at every outside door back home. That and a wrist rocket with marbles which is the first line of making recalcitrant yard bears understand they should shuffle off.

Anyways if it was up to me there'd be different rules for either side crossing into the other side, but apparently it is not and here we are.

Best to you regardless of the medicine line crossing rules.

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Good evening all, I think it may have you Dwayne that said, a shotgun for bear protection is all right?


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Good evening to you my friend, I hope your day out east went well.

Sorry I've got no recollection of that. If other folks from the US have done so previously, then my best advice would be to follow what they did?

Again I don't recall that conversation, sorry.

Best to you all.

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Good evening all, I think it may have you Dwayne that said, a shotgun for bear protection is all right?

Hi wabigoon, I believe that was me since I am a big believer in shotguns with 00 Buckshot for bears. That's what I carry in the bush as bear defense when I am bowhunting in bear country. Don't believe in Pepper Spray, would more likely use that stuff for seasoning steaks when I BBQ lol

Looking forward to hearing positive results from your Dr., said a prayer for you yesterday :o)

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Canada you bet i will go again to Canada since my deer camp is less than 15 miles from the Canadian border . heck i might even bear hunt there this 2023 spring ?


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I kind of like it here in Canada.

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I would go to Canada many times a year....can look out my back door across Lk.St. Clair and see Ontario....would take the boat in the summer and drive during the winter go to Northern Ontario to fish and hunt....I haven't set a foot or floated my boat in Canadian waters and will not since 2001....

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And what happened to you in 2001? Was that the year that American-trained terrorists flew planes into the Trade Center? The terrorists who lived and trained in the US? The same terrorists who had no ties to Canada whatsoever? Perhaps it is Canadians who should be outraged, because the US allowed the act, which also killed Canadian citizens, to occur.
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And what happened to you in 2001? Was that the year that American-trained terrorists flew planes into the Trade Center? The terrorists who lived and trained in the US? The same terrorists who had no ties to Canada whatsoever? Perhaps it is Canadians who should be outraged, because the US allowed the act, which also killed Canadian citizens, to occur.
Ultimately, of course, it was the fault of the terrorists and such display of outrage, directed at a country which was in no way involved, is simply posing. GD


To my knowledge, Canadians also housed a lot of US citizens stuck in airports due to 911, until things got moving again.

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The details on some of reasoning for the vitriol seem rather lacking. I won’t go to this side or that side of the border for some perceived infraction about the other side seems rather silly to me. Neither of our elected governments seem particularly competent yet there is finger pointing.

Having traveled north dozens of times, the people of Canada are some of the nicest I have met. Don’t look poorly upon any country due to its leaders/rulers. Most people are friendly, want to work and want their kids to have a better life than they do. That stands true for everyplace I have been.

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Anything we can say about Canada , can be said for the USA. As for me, I thought Canada was great . both sides of the border. I think we can all agree on that.


+1. all my dealings with Canadians have been very pleasant.

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Generalizations are not precise enough for application to the whole population, but that does not mean there can not be a grain of truth in them.

I used to travel a lot for work; been to Canada, Mexico, and to almost all the states. I like to think there are good people everywhere, but I also agree with the OP. I will never willing cross any border ever again. I have caught hell from border agents all over. "Random Selection" my butt. Every time I went to Canada they shook me and the vehicle down, one really bad lady apparently traced my record back to inception and cussed me for every aspect since. There may be good people up there, but I did not meet them.

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You can't know what you are going to encounter at either border.


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... I'm a dual USA/CDN citizen ... CBP/CBSA can't deny me entry into either country though they can detain & lock me up for cause (smuggling, impaired driving, etc) ... I carry both USA & CDN passports when travelling ... I've been checked more going from the USA to Canada than the reverse


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... I'm a dual USA/CDN citizen ... CBP/CBSA can't deny me entry into either country though they can detain & lock me up for cause (smuggling, impaired driving, etc) ... I carry both USA & CDN passports when travelling ... I've been checked more going from the USA to Canada than the reverse

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I find it odd, if you don't want to come to Canada then just fill our boots. We won't miss you.

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I live in NH, and travel to Canada quite a bit. I'm going again in July, to a folk music festival in Nova Scotia. I've never had a negative experience, and have found people about the same as any where else. IF you'r freindly they respond the same way. My grandmother's family was frome P.E.I, and there are still family members there. This is one Yank, who will never have a bad word for Canada, or her people!

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Jim—I’m dual—born in the USA and have the passports to prove it—however on the American side of the border a lot of the agents are ex-military. They don’t like to hear that dual citizenship spiel.
I cannot be denied entry to either country—but that applies to my person—not to my car, truck or even my horse.
My American passport expired but they will accept my DD-214 and let me in.

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It’s pretty simple … when crossing from Canada to USA don’t bring your “weed” with you … when crossing from USA to Canada don’t bring your guns with you … that will keep you out of most jackpots


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I don't have an issue with Canada or Canadians. I feel sorry for them because they live under the rule of a tyrannical, communist government but realize we aren't far behind. Mexico is another matter. If I were king I'd invade that shyt hole, exterminate the cartels and the entirety of their crooked Government and tell the remainder to straighten up their act, stay on their own side of the border and don't make me come back or things will get fuggin ugly.

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I find it odd, if you don't want to come to Canada then just fill our boots. We won't miss you.
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I've worked in Canada, been traveling up there since I was in college. I've crossed the border from east to west, and I bet I've crossed at well over 50 to 60 % of all of them...

I find it all depends on how you handle yourself, whether crossing into Canada, or passing back over to the USA. I've hardly ever had a problem, in either direction...

care about Canada as much as I do my own country. I see no reason to disrespect anything in Canada, or see no reason for them to be disrespectful to anyone here. you can come across bad people or good people on either side of the border.

I lived in Europe for 3 years in my youth. I took that as being a guest in someone's home or country. I've been embarrassed to be an American in other countries on how I've seen Americans act toward the locals in their own countries.
Saw the same in Mexico, the one trip I went down there to Acapulco. Most Americans were A Holes to the Mexicans.. but then again, the Europeans and Canadians were no better, sadly.

People in Mexico kept asking me where I was from, they weren't use to Americans evidently being nice and respectful to them. does that make me something special? NOT REALLY.

I've found out long ago in my youth... when you are visiting in someone else's nation, they will tend to mirror your attitude toward them. You come across respectful and friendly, they will mirror it... no difference than traveling in our own country.
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I'll have to start going to Canada to offset you

My wife wants to go to Lancaster County this summer so my offset will offset your offset. smile

SuperCub;
Good morning my old friend, I hope that you and your fine family are well.

Way back in the day my late parents did a bus tour across the country to the east coast in fall and the photos of your part of the world south through New York and Pennsylvania were stunning.

We just don't get those colors in fall.

It's on our bucket list to drive across the country and do that some year too, so we'll see.

All the best to you all.

Dwayne


He Dwayne .... I've been through Cape Breton and the New England States during the leafs. It's would be well worth the time to see. NH and Vermont are second to none.

I've been all over New England, and eastern Canada during the fall change of colors... my favorite tho, is Quebec.
I like the rolling terrain, which is more panoramic than New England, Northern NY etc. New Brunswick, PEI and Nova Scotia are still spectacular... so is Newfie-land and Labrador.


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Different countries are guess what, different. Expecting them to be the just the same because they both speak a similar language is asking a lot. Border guards can be pleasant or a pain where the light don't shine.


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I'm looking forward to getting the crop in, and heading to Wabigoon!


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The USA and Canada are both great countries, even though at this time the Management sucks in both.

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I used to have to travel to Montreal on business. I thought it might be a chance to polish up my French. But whenever I asked directions in French, they answered in English. Very nice people. It must be only people from Ontario they resent.


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BC too. As Canadians, I guess we should be bilingual . Mind you where I live it could be Punjabi . chuckle. In 2017 we drove across Canada. We were pretty happy to get into New Brunswick. In Quebec ice parlors are every where, I went to pick up a couple of ice cream cones, I got my change in quarters. That sort of thing doesn't endear one. I had backpacked through the Greek Islands in my youth, I got by with my smile and a please and thank you. I thought Quebec would be the same. No Way.


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I have worked a lot for 20 years with a Couple of Canadians. One.from Montreal and 1 from Edmonton. Both are great people. Both conservative in their thinking. Salt of the earth guys.
I have travelled into Canada once. I noticed Canadians are more polite than Americans. Most everyone was nice. There was no big deal going into Canada Showed our DL and was asked if we had contraband we said no and that was it. Coming back to the US some Mexican gave us the 3rd degree my wife was fighting mad when we were finally allowed to cross. It was before passports were required and he wanted a birth certificate as proof we were citizens. I told him Arkansas requires you show your birth certificate to get your first DL. He said he knew that but I could tell he enjoyed his authority and he lived to be a prick.

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You got a problem with coming to Canada, stay the,fh we don't need your bs

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Blue Lake, welcome. We have a little fishing cabin in Wabigoon, about forty miles east of you, drop by sometime.


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Originally Posted by BlueLk
You got a problem with coming to Canada, stay the,fh we don't need your bs

As I said, this is a silly thread!

Both Canada and the USA are beautiful, why limit your adventures, because of an ignorant boarder agent or Frogs in Queerbec?????

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I'll bet I've been across the border well in excess of a 100 times....

Canada or the USA, people are people. I've had tons of experience, both good and potentially bad on the other end.
Being just plain human, and decent to someone goes a long way. I worked for a Canadian company 3 years from 2000 to 2003. I covered the western USA as a Regional Manager and Western Canada ( BC, AB, Sask, Yukon, NW territoies). This was in the medical world.

You just have to know how to read people and learn not to be an A Hole, to border guards anywhere. Guess I picked that up in my youth, when our family lived in Europe for 3 years, when my dad was stationed in England with the USAF. We travel much of non communist Europe in those days, minus I've been to, and interned in Yugoslavia for 4 days..

I've been embarrassed to be an American in Canada, when I've seen others act like they are in some third world country, while in Canada. I've been asked by Americans in Canada if I spoke English, a lot more than once. Met Americans dumb enough to not know they speak English in Canada ( even most of Quebecker can speak English, I've spent a lot of time in Quebec, as I love the province)

At the border crossings, Yes Sir and No Sir or Ma'am go a long way of not getting hassled, in either direction.

The " biggest" potential I ever had, was in the Truck Entrance that a lot of people don't know exist at the Peace Arch on I 5 by White Rock. The Truck Entrance is over on what use to be the US Rte 99, a mile east or so of the one on I 5, in White Rock BC. I pulled up to the booth and there was a black guy, who really had a bad attitude right off the bat... " Are you American or Canadian?" American... "HOw long have you been in Canada?"... I didn't answer him.... He asked once again,
my response was " Is this the American Border Crossing?" Yeah it is.... My response " Thank God, I've been in Canada for two weeks now, and these damn Canucks are driving me crazy as hell. I am so happy to finally be home, to Normal People!" He started laughing, and that whole attitude wall came down. He said, welcome home. Asked me how long I was in Canada, told him two weeks... asked if I had anything I was bringing home from Canada.. NOpe nothing that I am not going to put in the first trash can I can find... He pointed out a trash can and told me to have a nice trip home to Oregon.

One the Canadian side, I flew into Edmonton one Sunday night, as I had an appointment with a facility, we were doing a major project on, at 9 the next morning. On the flight, the plane was full of college kids and coaches, and ME. There were some basketball games going on in Edmonton for the week... think March Madness sort of stuff... I wait to be the last one off the plane, with all of this college guys and their coaches.

Each one in front of me, was going thru customs, and telling them they were there to compete in the Basketball tourney...
and each person, got a Welcome to Canada, and Good Luck in the tournament! The older guys just said they were the coaches of the guys for the tourney. Welcome to Canada and Good Luck in the tournament.

I'm the last guy, and there are 5 border guards standing there... Last plane in for the night.. its midnight. Here for the Basketball tournament sir? Nope, I'm here on business. WELL that got their attention, ALL 5 of them. So what kind of business sir? Medical here in Edmonton.... Where are you from? Oregon. Four of them are already diving into my two carry on bags, that are not that big. What is the name of your company? March Networks... Never heard of them! Where are they headquartered out of? Ottawa.

Ottawa Where? Ontario.... Wait a minute.. you're an American, and your employed by a Canadian Company? Yes Sir...
That immediately got their attention.. The other 4 quit looking thru my carry on luggage. So you are an American, working for a Canadian Company in Canada? yes Sir... Well hell, that's a big switch.. I don't think I've ever seen that scenario in all my years on this job. Do you work just in Canada? No sir, I am regional Manager for Western Canada and the western US, minus California, Arizona and New Mexico.

Well Hey, that's One for Canada! We apologize sir.... Welcome to Canada and have a good business trip while you're here!
They each shook my hand with a big smile on their face, put my luggage back together, and told me to have a great evening.

Got to the car rental place to pick up the car, inside the terminal and the lady wanted to know was I late due to my flight.
Nope, got held up by the border guard guys, for being an American. The lady says " those guys can be such A Holes... I've been here for 12 hours today.. I want to get home and they have to hassle ONE American, to justify their existence!"

Those two are probably the biggest 'hassle' I've experienced on crossing the border into Canada... or the USA...
They are looking for worried behavior, don't show it and the crossing isn't a hassle at all...

Heck in retrospect, I know I've crossed the border well over a 100 times, in the 3 years I was employed by a Canadian Company...it was knowing so much about Canadian Geography, that landed me the job. I was told that I was the first American they had ever employed that could take a blank map of Canada and fill in all the provinces and territories and knew where their major cities were.. Asked how I knew all of that.. told them I've been to all of those places. That kind of blew their mind....I also became their top producing employee within the first 6 months.

hell they were impressed when I asked them were the water closet was, when I was first in the home office in Ottawa, and were blown away I knew my way around Ottawa.


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Originally Posted by Seafire
I'll bet I've been across the border well in excess of a 100 times....

Canada or the USA, people are people. I've had tons of experience, both good and potentially bad on the other end.
Being just plain human, and decent to someone goes a long way. I worked for a Canadian company 3 years from 2000 to 2003. I covered the western USA as a Regional Manager and Western Canada ( BC, AB, Sask, Yukon, NW territoies). This was in the medical world.

You just have to know how to read people and learn not to be an A Hole, to border guards anywhere. Guess I picked that up in my youth, when our family lived in Europe for 3 years, when my dad was stationed in England with the USAF. We travel much of non communist Europe in those days, minus I've been to, and interned in Yugoslavia for 4 days..

I've been embarrassed to be an American in Canada, when I've seen others act like they are in some third world country, while in Canada. I've been asked by Americans in Canada if I spoke English, a lot more than once. Met Americans dumb enough to not know they speak English in Canada ( even most of Quebecker can speak English, I've spent a lot of time in Quebec, as I love the province)

At the border crossings, Yes Sir and No Sir or Ma'am go a long way of not getting hassled, in either direction.

The " biggest" potential I ever had, was in the Truck Entrance that a lot of people don't know exist at the Peace Arch on I 5 by White Rock. The Truck Entrance is over on what use to be the US Rte 99, a mile east or so of the one on I 5, in White Rock BC. I pulled up to the booth and there was a black guy, who really had a bad attitude right off the bat... " Are you American or Canadian?" American... "HOw long have you been in Canada?"... I didn't answer him.... He asked once again,
my response was " Is this the American Border Crossing?" Yeah it is.... My response " Thank God, I've been in Canada for two weeks now, and these damn Canucks are driving me crazy as hell. I am so happy to finally be home, to Normal People!" He started laughing, and that whole attitude wall came down. He said, welcome home. Asked me how long I was in Canada, told him two weeks... asked if I had anything I was bringing home from Canada.. NOpe nothing that I am not going to put in the first trash can I can find... He pointed out a trash can and told me to have a nice trip home to Oregon.

One the Canadian side, I flew into Edmonton one Sunday night, as I had an appointment with a facility, we were doing a major project on, at 9 the next morning. On the flight, the plane was full of college kids and coaches, and ME. There were some basketball games going on in Edmonton for the week... think March Madness sort of stuff... I wait to be the last one off the plane, with all of this college guys and their coaches.

Each one in front of me, was going thru customs, and telling them they were there to compete in the Basketball tourney...
and each person, got a Welcome to Canada, and Good Luck in the tournament! The older guys just said they were the coaches of the guys for the tourney. Welcome to Canada and Good Luck in the tournament.

I'm the last guy, and there are 5 border guards standing there... Last plane in for the night.. its midnight. Here for the Basketball tournament sir? Nope, I'm here on business. WELL that got their attention, ALL 5 of them. So what kind of business sir? Medical here in Edmonton.... Where are you from? Oregon. Four of them are already diving into my two carry on bags, that are not that big. What is the name of your company? March Networks... Never heard of them! Where are they headquartered out of? Ottawa.

Ottawa Where? Ontario.... Wait a minute.. you're an American, and your employed by a Canadian Company? Yes Sir...
That immediately got their attention.. The other 4 quit looking thru my carry on luggage. So you are an American, working for a Canadian Company in Canada? yes Sir... Well hell, that's a big switch.. I don't think I've ever seen that scenario in all my years on this job. Do you work just in Canada? No sir, I am regional Manager for Western Canada and the western US, minus California, Arizona and New Mexico.

Well Hey, that's One for Canada! We apologize sir.... Welcome to Canada and have a good business trip while you're here!
They each shook my hand with a big smile on their face, put my luggage back together, and told me to have a great evening.

Got to the car rental place to pick up the car, inside the terminal and the lady wanted to know was I late due to my flight.
Nope, got held up by the border guard guys, for being an American. The lady says " those guys can be such A Holes... I've been here for 12 hours today.. I want to get home and they have to hassle ONE American, to justify their existence!"

Those two are probably the biggest 'hassle' I've experienced on crossing the border into Canada... or the USA...
They are looking for worried behavior, don't show it and the crossing isn't a hassle at all...

Heck in retrospect, I know I've crossed the border well over a 100 times, in the 3 years I was employed by a Canadian Company...it was knowing so much about Canadian Geography, that landed me the job. I was told that I was the first American they had ever employed that could take a blank map of Canada and fill in all the provinces and territories and knew where their major cities were.. Asked how I knew all of that.. told them I've been to all of those places. That kind of blew their mind....I also became their top producing employee within the first 6 months.

hell they were impressed when I asked them were the water closet was, when I was first in the home office in Ottawa, and were blown away I knew my way around Ottawa.

Ever done the Ottawa/Hull Shuffle lol

I have been to the USA many times, I worked for a company with its headquarters in Chicago.

It amazes me how little Americans know about Canada and yes a lot of them think Canada is a third World country, when in reality our countries, with the exception of politics and accents, are mirror images of each other, know what I mean?


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On the boat from the Athens port ( I can't spell that name either) to Mykinos(sp), Paul and I were trying to pick up a couple of American college girls from Rhode Island University. They didn't even know where their states where. We struck out, BTW.


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Originally Posted by BlueLk
You got a problem with coming to Canada, stay the,fh we don't need your bs


President Trump could straighten Canada out. He'd whoop The Faagots ass with both feet tied!


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Really enjoyed the times I’ve been to Canada.
Been to Montreal about a dozen times over the years. Kind of had a New Year’s Eve tradition in Montreal, a good steak and bottle of wine at Gibby’s and just enjoy the atmosphere. Cuban cigars in Montreal.
Hard to beat Rue Sainte Catherine on a Saturday morning in early summer.
A couple memorable fishing trips up near Maniwaki over the years.
Don’t travel as much these days, but I’d like to get back.


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I'm sure Seafire had an intelligent post 2 set subject he's probably qualified..

I've never been across the Canadian border and I don't figure I ever will be. if I do it'll be on a flight to Alaska. I'm sure there's a great people there that they're like current leader is nothing but a communist piece of [bleep].

that's been proven many times over already. and our current US president and Democratic administration is pretty much sucking cock on him.. it looks like our days are fighting terrorism overseas is over and we're fighting it at home

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First went in 1988, most recently this June. Can't wait to return. Boycotting those who share our values doesn't seem like a very effective form of protest to me.

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bottom line.i have lived my entire life in the usa,except when deployed for awhile.i am half canadian and half norwegian ancestry.i am a american,but over the last 3 years feel like puking daily at the [bleep] the america i grew up in and served is becoming.i have wonderful like minded friends and relatives to the north.pure quality people who share the utter disdain and hate for there government i do for mine.to the i am sure young [bleep] who started this post at 65 years of age i would pay to get him alone for 30 seconds.you wonderful peaceful like minded majority suffer as we do.the day sadly is getting closer to a citizen based uprising in both our nations.sad but could be necessary.the new world order needs to be eradicated.will beat my door if they push.god bless canada of the like minded normal folks.i wish a horrible death to the traitors.

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bottom line.i have lived my entire life in the usa,except when deployed for awhile.i am half canadian and half norwegian ancestry.i am a american,but over the last 3 years feel like puking daily at the [bleep] the america i grew up in and served is becoming.i have wonderful like minded friends and relatives to the north.pure quality people who share the utter disdain and hate for there government i do for mine.to the i am sure young [bleep] who started this post at 65 years of age i would pay to get him alone for 30 seconds.you wonderful peaceful like minded majority suffer as we do.the day sadly is getting closer to a citizen based uprising in both our nations.sad but could be necessary.the new world order needs to be eradicated.will beat my door if they push.god bless canada of the like minded normal folks.i wish a horrible death to the traitors.

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bottom line.i have lived my entire life in the usa,except when deployed for awhile.i am half canadian and half norwegian ancestry.i am a american,but over the last 3 years feel like puking daily at the [bleep] the america i grew up in and served is becoming.i have wonderful like minded friends and relatives to the north.pure quality people who share the utter disdain and hate for there government i do for mine.to the i am sure young [bleep] who started this post at 65 years of age i would pay to get him alone for 30 seconds.you wonderful peaceful like minded majority suffer as we do.the day sadly is getting closer to a citizen based uprising in both our nations.sad but could be necessary.the new world order needs to be eradicated.will beat my door if they push.god bless canada of the like minded normal folks.i wish a horrible death to the traitors.

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The USA, Canada and Australia are very similar

Same type of locals who love their country but hate their government

All have the Liberals & Conservatives that disagree and clash on certain topics, and all have experienced the negative effects of unhinged gov sponsored immigration of unwanted aliens

The main difference is that Australia is several decades ahead of the USA in tightening the noose on citizen freedoms, Canada is about 10 years in front of the USA & the US is fasttracking in closing that gap

All 3 countries are ruled by the same entities with the same programs at different levels of accelerations to the same ends

Americans love to ridicule Australians & Canadians (guilty) about their gun control status but are in abject fear daily about what is inevitably coming ...

One fact remains the same in the history of the World

Empires were ruled by Emperors
Kingdoms were ruled by Kings

We now have Countries ...........


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