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I’m eat up with coyotes. I’m down to one chicken, 3 goats, all my turkeys are gone and I’m down to 4 Guineas. The man across the road has lost 16 lambs last I talked to him 2 months ago. I was at my brothers house the other day picking up a trailer and i saw a coyote in the middle of the day trotting by like nobody’s business. He lives about 5-10 minutes from me. What’s the best way to go about calling them up? Never really got into hunting coyotes but looks like I’m about to. I’m gettin tired of this chit. Another neighbor that owns property beside me said he saw about 10 on my back pasture one night and my game camera has a lot of pictures of them. Thanks
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Trapping them will be more effective
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I can’t trap here because of my dogs and livestock
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Trapping them will be more effective Exactly. Traps, snares work 24 hrs a day. If you have goats you probably have net wire fence. Snaring takes a lot less skill. You might look into USDA Wildlife Services. Your county might have a Govt trapper. As far as calling goes, you can watch various videos on YouTube and get the gist of it. Mouth calls or e callers both work. This time of year you might focus more on their territorial habits. Watch the wind, tuck in the shade. Scan with your eyes and not your head. Be set up on sticks. The less movement the better.
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Borrow a yappy dog, stake him out down in that pasture. Get back a ways and get ready. Don’t take any prisoners. With the breeding/denning season coming now this strange yapper will bring them in.
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Calling coyotes is a poor way to try and control problem coyotes, even more so as an inexperienced caller. Learning to use traps and snares will be far more effective. There are non-lethal snares and soft catch traps that you can release animals from that are non-intended catches.
When I was running traps around my house my dog would get into them and it got to the point he'd just hold his foot up for me to take it off. Using the right size trap correctly is pretty safe for domestic animals. Plus they work 24/7
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Thanks for all the advice
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Bait pile is the easy way. Dead animal, gut pile, butcher scraps. Place where it can be easily seen from a distance. Anchor it down so they can't drag it away.
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I think you need a bigger gun!😂
I do the gut pile thing too. I put a cell cam on it and just wait for the phone to beep. I’ve killed 8-10 in the last couple of months.
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Wow, I wished I was around your neck of the woods. I'd go to town on them for ya, free. I shoot 'em with a .17HMR over here on management land during small game season, not allowed to use centerfire then. During deer season I use a 7m08 and whack 'em with that when I see 'em. Over here, doesn't matter if you see a nice 10pt and a yote nearby. You'd best shoot the yote and let the buck walk. I used to trap 'em but I enjoy shooting them nowadays. I'm getting old to be running lines every day like I used to. The best set-up is the snare, but it's indiscriminate, kills whatever it gets around.
Invest in an e-caller, a good one is the ICOtec GS500. That's what I use, remote is good for 300yds. Anyway, the best 2 recordings I use are the wounded bird and baby raccoon distress. Oh, and the unit is programmable if you want to delete a few you don't like and want to add something different. They're others on the market, lots cheaper, but I've had this GS500 for maybe 10 years now and it still works like it was new. You'll also want a "visual" decoy, something for the yote to keep its attention on instead of looking for trouble (you). You can buy e-decoys that spin or dangle a tail or something, or you can get a piece of bailing wire or something similar, about 20" long, a piece of black, tan or light brown sewing thread, about 10" or so long, and one or two feathers. Straighten the wire, push 1 end into the ground, loop the other end and tie the thread to the tip/loop of the wire, and tie the feathers on the other end of the thread. Let them dangle about halfway down the bailing wire. When the wind blows, the feathers will flutter, keeping the yotes interest/attention there. Don't use a heavy thread or string, you want the feathers to blow around, not drooping to the ground. Have your e-caller around a foot or so from the feather decoy. From your concealed blind/location, use the remote to play a sequence of whatever sound you've selected.
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I have also used Coyote Pee together with Coyote Juice about 20' or so of the decoy for that added, "I'm intruding in your territory and banging your beotches". A word of caution on that set-up, it will usually bring in the young males, but the older ones are usually more wary and may not come in. But they'll be near enough they can see the set-up, so keep your eyes peeled for them. I use raccoon pee when I'm using my raccoon hat I fashioned into a decoy. Works good too. I stuff a "decoy heart" in it so it wobbles around. It's the ball inside the primos whobbling whabbit decoy, called a "decoy heart". I bought 10 "hearts" on sale some years ago, only used 3 of them and they still work fine. Have 7 more in case one of them stops working. Wear rubber over shoes or boots when setting up the decoy site and to/from your blind to aide in eliminating your scent. I also freeze my deer hides I've taken during deer season or hides friends give me and use the hides for scent trails. Works this way, be about 1-mile from your target hunting site, tie the hide to your trucks rear bumper with about 8' of rope (parachute rope works great). Start dragging the hide behind your truck on the dirt roads in and around to your target/decoy site. Once at the spot/site, rubber boots on, remove the rope from the hide and toss the hide, flesh side up, over a bush. Put the e-caller in place. No real need of any added scents, let the deer hide work for you. Get in truck and go park about 3/4 mile or so downwind from decoy site. Walk to your blind wearing rubber boots and wait. Blind needs to be around 150 to 400 yds (depending on your marksmanship/terrain) from the hide. This is a good technique for wised up yotes. If there is a creek right behind/downwind of you that a yote won't cross over just to scent you, then you can set-up closer to the target site/e-caller. But the trick is not to leave human scent between your blind and the target site set-up, or within 300yds radius of the target site. This is about the only way to get older wised up yotes. I've watched yotes trail me leaving the target site and walking back to the blind when I was learning blind/target site set-ups, until I got a bright idea to use the truck. I also wear rubber hip waders to eliminate my scent. Hard to break old trapping habits. Anyway, hope some of this works out for you if you go this route.
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Taking my Browning Strutter chair...it isn't difficult to take a nice 10 minute nap after setting up...just to quiet things down a bit.
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I have also used Coyote Pee together with Coyote Juice about 20' or so of the decoy for that added, "I'm intruding in your territory and banging your beotches". A word of caution on that set-up, it will usually bring in the young males, but the older ones are usually more wary and may not come in. But they'll be near enough they can see the set-up, so keep your eyes peeled for them. I use raccoon pee when I'm using my raccoon hat I fashioned into a decoy. Works good too. I stuff a "decoy heart" in it so it wobbles around. It's the ball inside the primos whobbling whabbit decoy, called a "decoy heart". I bought 10 "hearts" on sale some years ago, only used 3 of them and they still work fine. Have 7 more in case one of them stops working. Wear rubber over shoes or boots when setting up the decoy site and to/from your blind to aide in eliminating your scent. I also freeze my deer hides I've taken during deer season or hides friends give me and use the hides for scent trails. Works this way, be about 1-mile from your target hunting site, tie the hide to your trucks rear bumper with about 8' of rope (parachute rope works great). Start dragging the hide behind your truck on the dirt roads in and around to your target/decoy site. Once at the spot/site, rubber boots on, remove the rope from the hide and toss the hide, flesh side up, over a bush. Put the e-caller in place. No real need of any added scents, let the deer hide work for you. Get in truck and go park about 3/4 mile or so downwind from decoy site. Walk to your blind wearing rubber boots and wait. Blind needs to be around 150 to 400 yds (depending on your marksmanship/terrain) from the hide. This is a good technique for wised up yotes. If there is a creek right behind/downwind of you that a yote won't cross over just to scent you, then you can set-up closer to the target site/e-caller. But the trick is not to leave human scent between your blind and the target site set-up, or within 300yds radius of the target site. This is about the only way to get older wised up yotes. I've watched yotes trail me leaving the target site and walking back to the blind when I was learning blind/target site set-ups, until I got a bright idea to use the truck. I also wear rubber hip waders to eliminate my scent. Hard to break old trapping habits. Anyway, hope some of this works out for you if you go this route. Just when I thought I'd been here long enough to experience every bit of possible bullszchit there is to be read, 💥BAM💥, another gift.
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I was curious as to why we need to wear rubber boots but driving a truck through the same place is okay? Do I need to wear rubber gloves while I drive the truck?
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After reading all this B.S. i'm amazed i ever called in and killed a Coyote. my method sucks, Rio7
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Sounds like it takes papa about three days to get a stand set up properly. Wow...
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Wow, sensing a lot of animosity. No, you put the rubber overshoes on after getting out of the truck. What would be the advantage of wearing them in the truck? That's about the same as wearing your de-scented hunting clothes in your vehicle so all the years of accumulated dirt, grim and sweat odors from the seat will transfer onto your hunting clothes. I personally use large plastic bags to cover my seats before leaving out. No, you can't buy these large bags from your local walmart, these are commercial bags. But if you want to drive with rubber boots on, go ahead. There's nothing like grease, gas and oil odors out in the woods you're hunting. I didn't mention rubber gloves, but you can drive with them on if you want, why, idk, I guess asking is a comedian thing?
The yotes here are pressured, with the majority waiting until nighttime to hunt and roam and unfortunately, you cannot hunt at night on State property. Wearing rubber boots/overshoes helps eliminate your scent, as well as sprays, but you already knew this, so why the hassle? You remind me of a goober here, he swears when he wakes up, he steps into his coveralls and boots, eats, and goes deer hunting. He says your scent doesn't matter, claims he's taken a dump (highly unlikely) off the side of his climber and still shoots deer. But in reality, he does smell like a mangy wet dog, and only gets maybe 1 deer a season if that. But I guess the spikes he kills are just as oblivious as he is. Its wooded area here, not with vast open areas like in some states. This is the way an old, respected varmint hunter here showed me (20+ yrs ago) how to set-up on the old wary ones, keeping your scent low as possible, and it works very well. Dragging a deer hide leaves a scent trail for a yote to follow without the presence of human odor. And it is more satisfying trying to outsmart an old wary yote into going where you want him to go. Sure, many times I've been up a tree deer hunting and popped yotes and bobcats wondering by. Those were just chance opportunities and not an intentional opportunity because I was deer hunting, not varmint hunting. It becomes a little harder when you intentionally hunt them, but then again, we are not overly populated with yotes here as maybe you are, where you can just step out of your truck in any given area and the yotes seemingly just run all around you barking "shoot me, shoot me", "no no shoot me" without a care in the world.
Some of you guys are funny, I'm laughing at you too, I mean with you, or do I ? ....
You guys have a great day.
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