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Originally Posted by thumbcocker
Anyone ever used the norma alaskan 30 caliber 180 grain roundnose?
I have some, which I tried in a .307 Winchester. Too slow out of that 16.25” barrel…disappointing accuracy. Will load some up in my ‘06. I’ll bet we’ll get much better results. Hope I can find another box somewhere.

What did shoot well in the 1:10 twist short barrel was the Nosler 170 gr RN Partition. Shot a small buck with one last fall. Turned him upside down in a hurry.


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Originally Posted by mrchongo
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I have a stash of 154 gr. .284" Hornady RN I use in my 7x57 and 7x64 and a few left of 180 gr. .308" Winchester Power Points for the '06. They will suffice for all my needs as the longest distance I've shot since 1967 has been 125 yards.
Love that 154 gr RN in my 7mm-08 A-bolt! Those rounds just have a great look to them that says “deer hunting”.

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Originally Posted by mrchongo
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Anyone ever used the norma alaskan 30 caliber 180 grain roundnose?
I have some, which I tried in a .307 Winchester. Too slow out of that 16.25” barrel…disappointing accuracy. Will load some up in my ‘06. I’ll bet we’ll get much better results. Hope I can find another box somewhere.

What did shoot well in the 1:10 twist short barrel was the Nosler 170 gr RN Partition. Shot a small buck with one last fall. Turned him upside down in a hurry.

I have a AE m94 in 307 with some factory 180 gr fn power pts been trying to figure out what bullet to use when I replace them. Thank you for the idea on the 170 npt..mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
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Originally Posted by thumbcocker
Anyone ever used the norma alaskan 30 caliber 180 grain roundnose?
I have some, which I tried in a .307 Winchester. Too slow out of that 16.25” barrel…disappointing accuracy. Will load some up in my ‘06. I’ll bet we’ll get much better results. Hope I can find another box somewhere.

What did shoot well in the 1:10 twist short barrel was the Nosler 170 gr RN Partition. Shot a small buck with one last fall. Turned him upside down in a hurry.

I have a AE m94 in 307 with some factory 180 gr fn power pts been trying to figure out what bullet to use when I replace them. Thank you for the idea on the 170 npt..mb
My Marlin is 1:10 twist. Your 94 AE is 1:12, IIRC? (I used to own one; too pretty to hunt!) Try that 170 gr NPT over 43gr of Varget or 37gr of Accurate 2015. You’ll like the tiny groups.


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Never used then except in a 30-30, as a kid Rem factory loads.

Reading this has me thinking.
Somewhere I have an bag with about 30 unidentified 6.5 RN.
Long suckers, 160s probably. And a full box of old Herters .263 RN.

Mind hates the idea of using them, but 200 yards is max in most of the
places the Swede hunts. Wouldn't miss what is given up.

But what if I love them?
Be a PITA to find more.


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DB you don't know till you try. Some 160 rn's will turn up if you like them.

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I've taken by far more deer with round nose bullets than pointy ones. 150 and 170 grain out of my .30-30's and 180 grain out of my 06's. High BC pointy bullets are simply not needed at the distances I kill my deer.

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Any one use the speer .30 cal. 165 rn in 308 or 30'06? Was going to try them last year in 06 , ended up using something else.

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I've killed deer with 180 gr RN 30-06 and 170 gr 30-30. They worked just fine, but I don't believe for a second they work better than pointed bullets. I've killed deer and bear with pointed bullets, and they all died just the same. I mistakenly picked up a box of 150 gr RN bullets several years ago and tried loading them in my 308. Accuracy results were not good. That may well have been a fluke and I can see some rifles being more accurate with RN bullets.


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High BC pointy bullets are simply not needed at the distances I kill my deer.

Maybe not, but here is the point you're missing. A high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 30-06 @ 2800 fps will impact with more speed at 75 yards and beyond than a RN 180 gr bullet fired from a 300 WM @3000 fps. It's not about trajectory, the 300 WM still shoots flatter out to any reasonable hunting range, but at only 75 yards the high BC bullet impacts with more speed. And 75 yards isn't long range.

That same high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 308 @ 2600 fps will catch up to the 300 WM at only 175 yards. If I can fire a 308, with 1/2 the recoil of a 300 WM, and beat 300 WM RN performance at 175 yards or beyond, I'll choose 308 and high BC bullets every time. I didn't run the numbers comparing 308 to 30-06 but would expect similar results. 308 with high BC bullets should beat 30-06 RN inside of 100 yards.

RN bullets do expand better at low velocity. And it is a good thing, because they will be impacting at lower speeds. Pointed bullets of the same weight may need more speed to expand, but once again they will be impacting faster.


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Originally Posted by Mideer3006
Any one use the speer .30 cal. 165 rn in 308 or 30'06? Was going to try them last year in 06 , ended up using something else.

Stumbled into a couple of boxes at LGS recently. I’m going to give them a whirl in a recently acquired 300 Sav. Speer says they were discontinued quite a while ago.

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Originally Posted by JMR40
I've killed deer with 180 gr RN 30-06 and 170 gr 30-30. They worked just fine, but I don't believe for a second they work better than pointed bullets. I've killed deer and bear with pointed bullets, and they all died just the same. I mistakenly picked up a box of 150 gr RN bullets several years ago and tried loading them in my 308. Accuracy results were not good. That may well have been a fluke and I can see some rifles being more accurate with RN bullets.


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High BC pointy bullets are simply not needed at the distances I kill my deer.

Maybe not, but here is the point you're missing. A high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 30-06 @ 2800 fps will impact with more speed at 75 yards and beyond than a RN 180 gr bullet fired from a 300 WM @3000 fps. It's not about trajectory, the 300 WM still shoots flatter out to any reasonable hunting range, but at only 75 yards the high BC bullet impacts with more speed. And 75 yards isn't long range.

That same high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 308 @ 2600 fps will catch up to the 300 WM at only 175 yards. If I can fire a 308, with 1/2 the recoil of a 300 WM, and beat 300 WM RN performance at 175 yards or beyond, I'll choose 308 and high BC bullets every time. I didn't run the numbers comparing 308 to 30-06 but would expect similar results. 308 with high BC bullets should beat 30-06 RN inside of 100 yards.

RN bullets do expand better at low velocity. And it is a good thing, because they will be impacting at lower speeds. Pointed bullets of the same weight may need more speed to expand, but once again they will be impacting faster.

And the rn impacts with more.frontal area when she hits home. I can say at woods.distances rn bullets hit like a freight train.


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I shot 100 grain Hornady round nose bullets in my 243 for many years. That bullet dropped deer and hogs like they were hit by a bolt of lightning.

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I was out to the local Scheels store yesterday they had a nice supply of primers all except large rifle. They also had the best selection of centerfire rifle ammo I've seen in over 2 years. They must have gotten atleast 5 cases of Remington 150 gr SP 270 winchester loads maybe more. These are soft point round nose Corelokts. Most of the 270 users I know shoot 1 pointed bullet or another from 130 to 150 grains. They had a lot of 270 ammo Norma, ww, federal it will be interesting to see how long the 150 gr rn Remington ammo lasts. I have a 50 rd ammo box I loaded with 150 gr rn corelokts I bought a long time a go for my 270 m7600 pump. I might even buy a couple boxes of factory loads to compare against my own. Did not see any rn loads in 308 or 30-06.. mb

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Allways buy more than you need as a hedge against times when supply is short. Another point is just as simple is price, your money in a passbook acct isn't earning you squat but components are higher every time you buy them. The bullets, primers, and powder don't rot if correctly stored whether you are a 1 box or less dude or a 1000+ round a year shooter. It's nobodies responsibility but yours to have the things you need on hand...mb

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Some folks search for the best accuracy or the fastest velocity. Once I get enough accuracy, I want the best terminal ballistics for my hunting.


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Originally Posted by DaveinWV
Some folks search for the best accuracy or the fastest velocity. Once I get enough accuracy, I want the best terminal ballistics for my hunting.
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Originally Posted by JMR40
I've killed deer with 180 gr RN 30-06 and 170 gr 30-30. They worked just fine, but I don't believe for a second they work better than pointed bullets. I've killed deer and bear with pointed bullets, and they all died just the same. I mistakenly picked up a box of 150 gr RN bullets several years ago and tried loading them in my 308. Accuracy results were not good. That may well have been a fluke and I can see some rifles being more accurate with RN bullets.


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High BC pointy bullets are simply not needed at the distances I kill my deer.

Maybe not, but here is the point you're missing. A high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 30-06 @ 2800 fps will impact with more speed at 75 yards and beyond than a RN 180 gr bullet fired from a 300 WM @3000 fps. It's not about trajectory, the 300 WM still shoots flatter out to any reasonable hunting range, but at only 75 yards the high BC bullet impacts with more speed. And 75 yards isn't long range.

That same high BC 180 gr bullet fired from a 308 @ 2600 fps will catch up to the 300 WM at only 175 yards. If I can fire a 308, with 1/2 the recoil of a 300 WM, and beat 300 WM RN performance at 175 yards or beyond, I'll choose 308 and high BC bullets every time. I didn't run the numbers comparing 308 to 30-06 but would expect similar results. 308 with high BC bullets should beat 30-06 RN inside of 100 yards.

RN bullets do expand better at low velocity. And it is a good thing, because they will be impacting at lower speeds. Pointed bullets of the same weight may need more speed to expand, but once again they will be impacting faster.
I'm not missing any point at all. I don't need my bullets to hit one bit faster or harder than they do. They kill deer PERFECTLY fine just the way they are. More velocity at impact simply isn't needed. I have killed nearly 100 deer well and truly dead with round nosed bullets fired from my .30-30's. They have all died quickly with well placed shots.

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Just ordered 3 boxes of 180 grain roundnose hornady's from optics planet. They say they have 14 boxes left

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Many years ago I loaded and used the old Hornady 100 grain round nose in my 243 for woods hunting. Loaded to around 2600 FPS or so, they would absolutely hammer a whitetail deer. They worked perfectly at woods ranges and always had a pass through along with a big exit hole. Wish they were still made.

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