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Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
A Meopta Meopro 4.5-14X44, HTR or regular, would stomp that Diamondback all day long, too, at an attractive price and weight. And, I think, keep up with or surpass the VX5 in glass and tracking departments.

The Diamondback 3.5-10x50 was an opportunistic (Black Friday) budget purchase and the 50mm objective meant larger exit pupil for low light conditions.

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Originally Posted by wreckster84
So even if you're not a Leupold fan, would you turn down an $1100 MSRP scope for 1/2 price? I'm sure some might. Not me.

I wouldn't turn it down. I also wouldn't mount it.

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It's only a deal if it's what you want.

Commenting on the situation, not the scope.


As far as scopes, to me that seems like a lot of X for deer under 500. And being an SFP, you have to have it all the way up for the reticle subtensions to be accurate, if it is a reticle that has any aiming features. Too much X can be a liability: it decreases FOV, which makes spotting hits and animal reaction more difficult, and it effectuates a longer process to settle in and steady up for shots.

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Originally Posted by wreckster84
So even if you're not a Leupold fan, would you turn down an $1100 MSRP scope for 1/2 price? I'm sure some might. Not me.

I wouldn't turn it down. I also wouldn't mount it.



To the OP. I have been using Leupold scopes for many years. I have had to send two back to Leupold. A varix II and vx3. I have not had any problem with the VX5HD or above. As many have said, and I agree, you could get a better scope. There are many. But if you can get a
VX5HD 3-15x44 with Firedot Duplex for $550.00 buy it. If you don't like it, I'll give you $650.00 for it.

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Sounds like a solid choice for what you're describing for its intended use. Don't let the anti-Leupold crowd drag you down. You make your own decisions and they don't need to be justified to some person sitting behind a keyboard that you'll never meet.


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Rule 1 , never buy a luuuuupole, Zeiss, Swarovski or meopta .


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Originally Posted by selmer
Sounds like a solid choice for what you're describing for its intended use. Don't let the anti-Leupold crowd drag you down. You make your own decisions and they don't need to be justified to some person sitting behind a keyboard that you'll never meet.


I agree with you that a person should feel and be free to make their own decisions. But, I do question what the utility is in posing a question on an online forum to then disregard certain answers because they don't support a previously entrenched belief?

Whatever the item is, I figure there's valid and non valid rational for feeling positive or negative about it. It's the reader's job to ask the right questions to find out/decide if a poster's opinions and experiences have validity to their own decision making process.

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Originally Posted by Starbuck
It's only a deal if it's what you want.

Could not agree more.

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Rule 1 , never buy a luuuuupole, Zeiss, Swarovski or meopta .

What's Rule #2? And if not those 4 brands, then what? NF, S&B, Tasco wink


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As far as scopes, to me that seems like a lot of X for deer under 500.

I've targeted whitetail at 450yds with the 3.5-10x50 and it's not quite the magnification I'd like, especially for my 60+ year old eyes. Now my 80+ year old friend whose ranch we hunt routinely kills deer at 350-400 yds with much lower quality glass than this.

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Originally Posted by wreckster84
would you turn down an $1100 MSRP scope for 1/2 price? I'm sure some might. Not me.

Heck no, I'll take one please! 1-6 VX-6HD with firedot!

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Wreckster84: For that usage I would opt for the tried and true Leupold 4.5x14 with Du-Plex reticle and adjustable objective.
I have several of these and they do great duty on distant Rock Chucks, Coyotes, Antelope and Deer.
Best of luck with whichever you choose.
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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Wreckster84: For that usage I would opt for the tried and true Leupold 4.5x14 with Du-Plex reticle and adjustable objective.
I have several of these and they do great duty on distant Rock Chucks, Coyotes, Antelope and Deer.
Best of luck with whichever you choose.
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That would drop down to a VX-3HD. Totally different ballgame, by comparison.
The one mentioned goes lower on the low end, but higher on the high end as well. Just cause it goes that high, doesn't mean it has to be used that high at all times.

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If it had to me a leupold product it would be the mk5. LE/Mil on them is very good so I’m guessing distributor may be close.

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The Mark series are good scopes IMO. My son has an older Mk4 he used for long range. The reticles, turrets, and overall weight make it more complex and heavy for my hunting preference.

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What's Rule #2? And if not those 4 brands, then what? NF, S&B, Tasco wink

I know you were making a joke by including Tasco, but, like Bushnell, they did offer some legitimate scopes.

Thier earlier Japanese offerings were pretty solid scopes, and most know about the Taco/SWFA SS classic connection.

Certainly the first two options you listed are great brands to be loyal to.

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Based on your criteria, I'd be tempted to look at this one: Leupold VX-5HD 4-20x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Focus Duplex Reticle

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I wouldn’t turn down a $1,100 scope for 1/2 price, but I would buy it and turn around and sell it.

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My 6.5X55 is a Sako, and the furthest I've ever killed a deer with it is 400 yards. Second furthest was 140. The rest have all been in the woods, 20 - 50 yards. I like to keep a certain balance between the size of the rifle, the size of the scope and the reasonable expectations for using it, thus my 6.5X55 wears a VXIII 2.5 - 8.


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Originally Posted by Starbuck
I know you were making a joke by including Tasco, but, like Bushnell, they did offer some legitimate scopes.

My first deer rifle was a Remington 7600 in .270 wearing a Tasco 4x32 Made in Japan. Great scope, still have it.

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Originally Posted by Motown
I wouldn’t turn down a $1,100 scope for 1/2 price, but I would buy it and turn around and sell it.

And buy what (for my application)?

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You picked the one.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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