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I got the go ahead from the publisher to do a revision of "A Collector's Guide to the Savage 99 Rifle...". They have about 700 copies of the second printing left.
I have until June to get the info to them although they said the revision won't be published until late 2024.
Any input from you guys that is not in the first or second printing of the book will be credited to you in the text and in the acknowledgements.
The 1960 99E will be covered. I know there were some variations such as a filled hole in the pistol grip or the absence of the hole. Some had steel buttplates and others had plastic. I need info and photos on these. As far as I know these rifles were only chambered in 250-3000 and 300. If any were produced in the Winchester calibers I would like to include that info.
I will not be traveling to get photos and info for this revision.
I didn't put the 99A with the medium weight barrel in the book. That will be covered in the revision. I took photos of the one I had before I sold it.
I will cover the 99B in 22 Hi-Power. We only know of two of these rifles. I would like to add any other oddities.
Thanks in advance for any help. David

I'll round up pics and info for that Ruger Savage Auto we talked about.

That would be a great addition to the book.

I remember seeing pictures of that rifle in one of the gun magazines that ran an article about Bill Ruger a number of years ago. It’s about as non looking of a 99 that you could make out of a 99! Yet interesting from the perspective of what Ruger did.

Oh, I dunno.
At a glance it looks Savage. Clearly a modification because he started with a full rifle. Ingenious conversion.
Imagine if he would have started from scratch. ?? Or if it were adopted. ??
I'd like to see it in action!

Interesting read in RL Wilsons book on Bill Ruger and his Rugers ref the semi-auto 99.

99 T-Rex?

Thanks for the pictures and I think calling it a 99T-Rex is something that should go into the books on the 99! I wish I'd thought of that one.

The 99TR-ex. Some will say the R was for Ruger but the rest of us will know it actually was coined for the Cretaceous Period raptor.

Resembles a 99 T or R, and "ex" for experimental.

I'll buy that!

I've decided to do an additional appendix in the revision. I am going to do it on scope mounts that don't require D&T'ing, in other words Lightfoot and Stith mounts. I have quite a few variations of the Stith but can use input from you guys also. I'll post what I've got and let you guys fill in the rest. I'll probably need some input on the Lightfoots on the early rifles that had varying distances for the location of the rear barrel sight. I have one on a saddle ring carbine so that's covered. Any other non D&T mounts you guys know about will be covered also.

Here's one that wasn't very popular and one that isn't seen often. I have 2 of them. Both are mounted sporting the Lyman Alaskan scope.. It is the Miller Kodiak Dream Mount.



These particular images are for illustration purposes only and can be found publicly on the net, These are not pictures of my personal Millers. They illustrate the probable reasons for lack of popularity.

The above picture is not mine. I got it from a web search. I went back another time and found reference to the 24hrcf. They are from a thread started by GeneB. I just wanted to clarify this

I haven't seen one before.
It appears the front of the mount utilizes the rear dovetail.
Can you tell us about the rear mount?

The rear mount is a split ring held together by the 2 screws. Attached to the ring dovetails are the two "Z" parts. Attached to the "Z"s is the rear base. All held together by the force of the rings when they are tightened. That long flat piece is nothing more than a leaf spring that forces the whole thing down onto the rear receiver. It is pretty intensive to get the whole thing down onto the rifle. Lightfoot would most likely do a way better job explaining it. I have one on my 99E 22 HP and one assembled on my other Lyman Alaskan sitting in a save just so I don't lose any parts.

So the rear isn't fastened to the rifle. Like you say, "leaf spring" pressure due to front dovetail and positive force down. ??

I have one, photographed and played with it yesterday for the revision. I don't see how it could be very sturdy and therefore not accurate. One interesting thing is that it will work on almost anything with the rear barrel sight dovetail. In it's favor it is quickly removable.

The rear is not "fastened" to the rifle. Downward force generated by the flat leaf spring is all. There are 2 ball nosed set screws at 90* to one another that contact the receiver and are used for contact.

Looked over my scope stuff yesterday. I need pics of a 3/4 inch Stith setup preferably with a Weaver 29S or 330. Also an early K2.5 with the small front bell and a Stith that fits it.

David, Are you going to do anything about the model 21 "CLYMAN LYMAN" for the savage rifle? I'm pretty sure i have the 3/4" stith with a 330 on a early 250-3000. Don