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Can’t imagine, with the lighting and distance involved, “looking through them” in a sporting goods store, offerers much useful info when comparing between brands and models. Most let you take them outside Actually, looking through binoculars inside tends to provide a better test, especially during daylight hours. But if you look into the dimmest parts inside the store, which are generally above you in the bigger stores which stock enough variety of optics to provide a comparison--especially back in the far corners....
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Can’t imagine, with the lighting and distance involved, “looking through them” in a sporting goods store, offerers much useful info when comparing between brands and models. Most let you take them outside Actually, looking through binoculars inside tends to provide a better test, especially during daylight hours. But if you look into the dimmest parts inside the store, which are generally above you in the bigger stores which stock enough variety of optics to provide a comparison--especially back in the far corners.... Cabela's has items tucked in dark corners just for the purpose of testing binoculars, at least the Lehi, Utah store does.
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If you would pardon the self promotion - I have a pair of Kahles 8x32 that I am about to sell , hard to find a higher quality product....
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Spend a bit more and go Kowa Genesis 8x33
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For those considering the Celestron TrailSeeker - since 2005 Celestron has been owned by an American subsidiary of Synta Optics, one of the world’s largest optics manufacturers from Suzhou in China.
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I would check out the Maven C1 option. My son has a pair and I am impressed.
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Check under the couch cushions and come up with $300.00 more and buy those 8x32 Swarovski ELs in the classifieds.
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There's a Cabelas Euro HD (Meopta Meostar HD) 10x42 on Rockslide for $550. I'd be on that like lardasss on John Burns.
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I bought the Steiner Predator AF 10-42 last year and have been very impressed with them. They were around $400.
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We just got in some used Leicas
Trinovid 8x42 HD
Trinovid 8x32 BA and a Trinovid 8x32 BN
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Trinovid 8x42 HD binos a darn skookum!
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Tract toric 10x42 or 12x50 uhd.
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I picked them up to try out partly on advice & the review referenced, and I think this post. IME these hit way about their price point.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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It doesn't get any easier then calling Doug or Neil
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I picked them up to try out partly on advice & the review referenced, and I think this post. IME these hit way about their price point. "Birder sites" and other reviewers get paid to give products more favorable reviews, fyi. Doesn't mean the product isn't good, nor bad, but published reviews are rarely "unbiased." In my business we often pay $30k, and more; up to over six-figures, for industry shills to give favorable, unbiased, reviews. 
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I picked them up to try out partly on advice & the review referenced, and I think this post. IME these hit way about their price point. "Birder sites" and other reviewers get paid to give products more favorable reviews, fyi. Doesn't mean the product isn't good, nor bad, but published reviews are rarely "unbiased." In my business we often pay $30k, and more; up to over six-figures, for industry shills to give favorable, unbiased, reviews. Just an FYI, I identify as an industrial shill. 😂😂😂
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Used Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss.
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Used Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss. Depends on how old they are, and not just due to use. There are new $400 binoculars today that beat some of the older "alphas." I know this due to having owned a bunch of Leica, Swarovski and Zeiss optics from the 1990s--including roof-prism binoculars made after "phase-correction coating" became common.
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I'd see if Doug could set him up with a German Precision Optics Passion ED 8x42. Or a pair of Meopro HD in 8x42
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"Birder sites" and other reviewers get paid to give products more favorable reviews, fyi. Doesn't mean the product isn't good, nor bad, but published reviews are rarely "unbiased." In my business we often pay $30k, and more; up to over six-figures, for industry shills to give favorable, unbiased, reviews. Fair point. I'll stand by my assessment.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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