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Anyone here familiar with this cartridge? Parent case? Case forming info? Any information would be appreciated?

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I've owned a number of them in doubles and drillings. You would do well to do a look over on AccurateReloading.com. it is not a BP cartridge, although there are a couple BP precursors. It is a good heavy hitter for game. Brass, bullets and load data are readily available. It is more of a parent case. Get out the Google machine, and crank the handle, lots of info out there.
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Thanks blackfly. Been working the google. Will check them out at AR


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Cartridge verified as 9.5x47R. Dies will be here this Fall.

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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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A 45-70 or 348 case will work if you add a very thin spacer in the extractor to make up for the thinner rim on the two American brass. Huntington's lists brass, btw. Buffalo also has brass:
https://www.buffaloarms.com/9-5x47r-cases-bertram-formed-b-ber9-5x47r.html
https://www.huntingtons.com/product-tag/9-5x47r/

This drilling shoots a 10X47R. I make brass from trimmed 348 brass and a 41 Mag pistol die set. It shoots 40 S&W .401 cast bullets.
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Thanks ol’ buddy!


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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If it's anything like the 10.4x38 Swiss, 10.4 x42, or 10.4 x 47 Italian I understand that 8mm Lebel brass is a better fit for the rim thickness. The .348 brass works for the Vetterli (and I get excellent accuracy) but the extractor will fall off the case if it isn't ejected briskly. The Lebel brass is supposed to be closer to the correct thickness. I have some Lebel brass but have not turned it into 10.4 Vetterli yet.

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Originally Posted by gzig5
If it's anything like the 10.4x38 Swiss, 10.4 x42, or 10.4 x 47 Italian I understand that 8mm Lebel brass is a better fit for the rim thickness. The .348 brass works for the Vetterli (and I get excellent accuracy) but the extractor will fall off the case if it isn't ejected briskly. The Lebel brass is supposed to be closer to the correct thickness. I have some Lebel brass but have not turned it into 10.4 Vetterli yet.

Had some old Syrian M1914 Hotchkiss trays of 8mm Lebel. So I disected one thinking the same thing. Better off buying the Bertram brass I believe. But thanks for the intel!


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Bob is there a story about this old rifle? I'm thinking there is! If not make one up!


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Originally Posted by saddlering
Bob is there a story about this old rifle? I'm thinking there is! If not make one up!

Compadre, I don’t have a clue. Found it on a site and bought it. Seen another almost the twin of this one on another site and it was like three times as much! 🤣🤣🤣. But that latter site is notorious for their proud pricing of things! 🤣.

I plan on this old piece creating it’s own stories! More to come!!!


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Sounds like a plan. Happy Hunting with it!


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What is the exact bullet diameter in inches to 3 decimal places?..mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
What is the exact bullet diameter in inches to 3 decimal places?..mb

Bullet is .374" with a .379" stop ring

I need to slug bore again. I sent old slug and chamber casting to C&H tool


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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