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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
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So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole.



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You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed.



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I’m trying to get an idea what some mean by set and forget. And even though I like Leopold I don’t find that a great endorsement.

If using the same load, then set and forget should mean they all should land relatively close. When I read two touching every year for 20 years, does that mean one ragged hole. Or does one’s adjust every year until two are touching, and call it good.


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You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received earned. Everyone’s impressed.


Naw. Those entailed dialing drop data and so did the majority of my Long Range Kills.

It’s the way it works for precision

And the list is quite impressive 👍🏼



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I’ve taken lots of game from a few feet to over 300 yards with the same set and forget scope, it’s not that hard actually.


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Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards?


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards?
Out to 500 yes prairie dogs and coyotes, hit some miss some but didn’t really matter. I’ve never hunted a game animal I couldn’t get within 300 yards of, and I’ve taken a lot.


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards?
There is no place to shoot that far around here. The majority of gun club ranges in the area are 100 yards. The longest in the County is 200 yards. There is a 300 yard range in the next County. Some people actually like to hunt before they shoot. Others simply don't have anyplace in their AO where they can even see game from 500 yards. There are these things called trees/forests that prevent it.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
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I've been using variable power scopes for many years. Originally I set them on four and thats where they stayed. Now days the last ten or so years, I have found setting on five works. I don't swap scopes from rifle to rifle. And very seldom have to change the original sight in!


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It doesn't mean I don't play around with mediun range, 600 yds, and dial for fun. No thousand yard ranges near. My hunting areas don't require long range tactics. I never got the bug, for long range hunting. Now it's more awesome!😎

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by battue
So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole.



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You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed.


Other than he shoots Leupold scopes why the slam on Rick? The Campfire is a "pics or it didn't happen" website. Talk your game without proof, and sooner or later someone is going to jump on your case. He talks LR shooting and backs it up with proof. Looks like if he slammed Leopold, and raved on about the other top end scopes it would all be ok? Ya, that's what it looks like.

Show off your most recent kill, new truck, pics of where you went fishing or hunting. "Yay ,great job!!!!"......Brag on Leupold too much, along with showing proof and giving some [bleep] back in the process, and you go to the colony. laugh

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot.



Unless everything you measure is a foot or less


OR hone your skills, know your weapon and your cartridge and you are good to go as far as I care to HUNT an animal..


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I've killed animals from point blank to 1200 yards. I've killed the majority of whitetail with a bow under 40 yards. I have long range hunting rifles, long range target rifles, varmint rifles, and short-range timber hunting rifles. I select the right tool for the job.

If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool.


Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put.

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Again....Just what is or are the various individual definitions of set and forget? Myself, if I'm using the same load then it should be very close for each range session or hunt. Consistently off by a couple inches isn't set and forget.

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Originally Posted by WMR
Originally Posted by drop_point
If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool.


Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put.


In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc.

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Might want to stay on track with the OP.

This thread is not about killing game

It’s about using a scope on a rifle to precisely steer bullets as you would use your calipers or tape to precisely measure, to make impacts on whatever you’re shooting at, any distance


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Writing as a refugee from Planet 4MOA, I can tell you that once I learned about Maximum Point Blank Range, its calculation, and its ramifications, I pretty much stopped twiddling scope knobs. Once I get the crosshairs 2 inches above Zero at 100 yards, I'm good to go out beyond 200 yards with most of my deer rifles. Last fall, I made the longest shot at a buck of my life, a whopping 200 yards.

One of the reasons Planet 4MOA evolved the way it did, is because there is no real reason for it not to. If you can go to Walmart and get your new deer rifle zeroed by the counter monkey and go out the next day and shoot a nice buck, who is going to give a rat's patoot about any of this scope falderal. Granted, it was only a 50 yard shot out of a treestand, and with a couple of beers the distance balloons to 150 yards, but a dead deer is a dead deer. Still, 50 yards was as far as a fellow could see in these cedar thickets.


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Might want to stay on track with the OP.

This thread is not about killing game

It’s about using a scope on a rifle to precisely steer bullets as you would use your calipers or tape to precisely measure, to make impacts on whatever you’re shooting at, any distance


Then if it's just about punching paper or ringing steel, then we are in agreement...


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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by WMR
Originally Posted by drop_point
If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool.


Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put.


In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc.


I wouldn't use a 10-50x target scope on a long range hunting rifle that I intended to make a 50 yard shot with. I wouldn't use a high-recoiling long-range hunting rifle for F-Class.


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