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“Set and Forget Scopes” #18219059 03/08/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. Unless everything you measure is a foot or less Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18219848 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,660 TN K Kaleb Campfire Outfitter Kaleb Campfire Outfitter K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,660 TN I bet that made perfect sense last night.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18219914 03/09/23 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest Originally Posted by rcamuglia Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. Unless everything you measure is a foot or less You, uhhhhh, ever hunted east of the Mississippi? WWP53D

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220010 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 The OP is the guy who watches a dozen rutting bucks mosey into a privet hedge thicket while he is fiddling with his scope.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220017 03/09/23 Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 348 Northern Virginia T TeeBone Campfire Member TeeBone Campfire Member T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 348 Northern Virginia Context is pretty important when making a statement like that.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220025 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 I honestly can’t remember the last buck i shot that wasn’t moving at at least a fast walk.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” JoeBob #18220073 03/09/23 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 25,808 West Slope of Colorado A alpinecrick Campfire Ranger alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 25,808 West Slope of Colorado Originally Posted by JoeBob The OP is the guy who watches a dozen rutting bucks mosey into a privet hedge thicket while he is fiddling with his scope. Longest shot on an elk I’ve ever made I had 10-15 seconds to make the shot from the time I saw him. Last edited by alpinecrick; 03/09/23. Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Kaleb #18220104 03/09/23 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 25,808 West Slope of Colorado A alpinecrick Campfire Ranger alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 25,808 West Slope of Colorado Originally Posted by Kaleb I bet that made perfect sense last night. Lol…… Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220113 03/09/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,305 Denver 30338 Campfire Outfitter 30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,305 Denver Based on the last 30 plus years of hunting I am pretty sure I'd do fine with a set and forget scope. I don't own any as I do like dialing in most western situations. So whatever I guess. Sure has been a long winter.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” SKane #18220119 03/09/23 Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,352 WI hillestadj Campfire Tracker hillestadj Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,352 WI Originally Posted by SKane Originally Posted by rcamuglia Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. Unless everything you measure is a foot or less You, uhhhhh, ever hunted east of the Mississippi? Wait til he learns you can hit something with open sights, the OG set and forget. Those little fuggers are a bitch to dial when deer are pouring through inside 40 yards...

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220167 03/09/23 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,141 The Palmetto State C cra1948 Campfire Outfitter cra1948 Campfire Outfitter C Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,141 The Palmetto State I've made one-shot kills from 400 yards in to less than 20 yards with the same rifle with a "set and forget" scope. I guess some of us can manage with that 12" ruler. Mathew 22: 37-39

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” alpinecrick #18220184 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 Originally Posted by alpinecrick Originally Posted by JoeBob The OP is the guy who watches a dozen rutting bucks mosey into a privet hedge thicket while he is fiddling with his scope. Longest shot on an elk I’ve ever made I had 10-15 seconds to make the shot from the time I saw him. That’s about 12 seconds more than the whitetail buck I shot at about 80 yards this past November as it snuck through a slough full of button willows. Last edited by JoeBob; 03/09/23.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220218 03/09/23 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,607 colorado bob Campfire Tracker colorado bob Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,607 I've set my Leupold VarX-III 2.5x8 on my 30/06 at 3" high 40 years ago. It's killed everything I shot at. Never had to reset or adjust. Use the same 180 grain load for everything. Simple

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220228 03/09/23 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,371 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,371 South East Missouri A 12" ruler is all that is needed to kill stacks a critters in Missouri Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220283 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,614 Alberta catnthehat Campfire Tracker catnthehat Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,614 Alberta 30 big game animals so far and numerous coyotes with this particular rifle Closest was 19 yards, furthest 372. Haven't touched the scope since dialing it at 200 meters years ago, and it has been on and off the rifle several times, because I like to use the irons as well. Cat scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220364 03/09/23 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 826 E elkaddict Campfire Regular elkaddict Campfire Regular E Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 826 I set my rifles up for 3-31/2” high (depending on cartridge/load). It’s worked for 40years. Most of the shots have been 3-400yds. I’ve never had an issue at closer ranges even though bullets can be 4-5” high at their zenith. As I think about my hunting, particularly out west, time to range, read the wind and dial would have prevented a majority of my shots. I know my trajectories and wind drifts, but at the ranges I find myself most comfortable with, I find Kentucky windage has worked just fine. While I’ve killed deer, antelope and elk at 600yds plus, i choose not to shoot unwounded animals at those ranges because of difficulty gauging different wind currents, and more importantly, that an animal might move as I squeeze off a shot. Just my experience. I do own a number of scopes that have the mechanics to dial reliably but have only used them on the range or on prairie dogs.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220448 03/09/23 Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho A Andy3 Campfire Member Andy3 Campfire Member A Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho The wife's 300 win has a Leupold VX3 6x42, with a LRD reticle, on it. The only load shot through this gun is factory Nosler Custom 200 grain accubonds. She has run it for the last 20+ years on elk, bear, and many deer. Our daughter has used it on occasion, as have myself. The gun has not missed a season. In those 20+ years, during preseason sight verification of a 200 yard zero, the windage cap has been off the scope once....for an adjustment of 2 clicks. The elevation cap has not been removed. This gun cuts holes at 100 yards, everytime. Her favorite hayfield is 497 yards to the far fence line. The other side of the fence is the bedding area, and owned by someone who allows no hunting OR deer recovery. Any deer along that fence, must be anchored in it's tracks, requiring high shoulder shots. She is 100% on about a dozen deer, along that fence. Simple scope, simple reticle, and no fussing with knobs or power settings....just a killing machine out to 500 yards. Andy3

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220898 03/09/23 Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5,173 Boarmaster123 Campfire Tracker Boarmaster123 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 5,173 Always a lot of painting with a broad brush on the fire. Where I hunt while not impossible to have a chance to dial but there is generally no time or need. Life can be rough on us dreamers.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220913 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,444 E of the Rockies, W of the res... bellydeep Campfire Tracker bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,444 E of the Rockies, W of the res... Originally Posted by rcamuglia Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. Unless everything you measure is a foot or less Translation: “I have a hard time getting within 400 yards of a game animal” Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Andy3 #18220936 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh The bigger question is how many holes will it cut...everytime? laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18220989 03/09/23 Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho A Andy3 Campfire Member Andy3 Campfire Member A Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho 2 at a time/year.....times 20+ years. Andy3

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18220994 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,688 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,688 Northern Louisiana The only rutting buck I shot this year was viewable for maybe 6 seconds total at a bit over 200yds. I shot him when he was one step from being out of sight. This is not uncommon where I hunt. Many of my spots max out at 200-250yds of visibility, so there is no scope fiddling necessary. I also hunt a few spots where I can see 400-500yds and there is more than one way to skin a cat there, be it a flat MPBR (257wby), a BDC reticle, or even dials. I use them all. The nice thing about a BDC or dials is that you aren't forced to employ them until you need them. A couple of my rifles/carbines that never see use past 300yds wear a scope with no drop compensation method other than hold-over and that's fine for the medium-range situations for which they are favored. Now with even more aplomb

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18221099 03/09/23 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,386 Tallahassee, Florida 257Bob Campfire Tracker 257Bob Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,386 Tallahassee, Florida Even though many of my scopes have elevation dials for range adjustment, I'm mostly a set and forget hunter as most of my shots are under 300 yards and do not require adjustment. Even though they are "custom" by Leupold based on the cartridge/ballistics, they really need to be tested at range to see how close they actually are to the distance scribed on the turret. I just don't really shoot at longer distances at targets/steel as much as I'd like to, local range limited to 100 yards.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” colorado bob #18221264 03/09/23 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,263 Portland, Ore D Dancing Bear Campfire Tracker Dancing Bear Campfire Tracker D Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,263 Portland, Ore Originally Posted by colorado bob I've set my Leupold VarX-III 2.5x8 on my 30/06 at 3" high 40 years ago. It's killed everything I shot at. Never had to reset or adjust. Use the same 180 grain load for everything. Simple Pretty much my story. I use the same load but swap back and forth between NPT's and I/L's. It's only been 30 years for me though and I finally changed to a new 2.5-8x36 last fall. I put the first scope scope on my .375 H&H rifle in place of the 1.75x6..

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Andy3 #18221343 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18221376 03/09/23 Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho A Andy3 Campfire Member Andy3 Campfire Member A Joined: May 2013 Posts: 394 Idaho 2 shots per year, touching each other.....I call that cutting holes...not a ragged hole. A box car full of dead deer, bear, and elk, out to 500 yards, for proof. This is not a high volume shooting rig. The ammo is too hard to find, to waste on paper. It has proved itself for a long time, as has the scope. If your on the prod, and looking to start $hit....go somewhere else. Andy3

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Andy3 #18221420 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Don’t want to start anything, however sometimes I like to question what I read. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18221532 03/09/23 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest Rick, Any guesses on come-ups to the downed trees in the background? WWP53D

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” SKane #18221564 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Damn Scott how would any of us know, unless you turn around and take a pic. All you are showing us is the foreground. Or maybe you are facing the other way. These optics forums are hard to keep straight... Last edited by battue; 03/09/23. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” SKane #18221754 03/09/23 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,671 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,671 Originally Posted by SKane Rick, Any guesses on come-ups to the downed trees in the background? Minus 2 clicks.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” colorado bob #18221770 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 27,900 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 27,900 Here Or There Originally Posted by colorado bob I've set my Leupold VarX-III 2.5x8 on my 30/06 at 3" high 40 years ago. It's killed everything I shot at. Never had to reset or adjust. Use the same 180 grain load for everything. Simple Yep Know your rifle and how to shoot it. WTH did we do before technology took over "hunting"? I guess all the deer and antelope I got dropped dead, laughing at my '06 with a K 2.5 and later a K 4 on top. Hunt with Class and Classics Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18221806 03/09/23 Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 677 South Louisiana Simplepeddler Campfire Regular Simplepeddler Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 677 South Louisiana The last thing I want to be doing is holding my bourbon, trying to make a shoot on a B&C whitetail AND dialing a dial.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” SKane #18221810 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,688 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,688 Northern Louisiana Originally Posted by SKane Rick, Any guesses on come-ups to the downed trees in the background? If you use QD rings you can flip your Hubble around backwards for when the deer come in too close. Just don't forget to invert your dope chart with a pocket mirror. Now with even more aplomb

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18221848 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 I've killed a lot of deer with iron sights. Quite a few with round nosed bullets, rifled slugs, round balls and even arrows. Haven't had a shot opportunity over 300 yards since 1994. Don't have any need to dial a scope. Only take a range finder with me when I'm gonna be slingin arrows.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” JPro #18221917 03/09/23 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 23,962 Midwest Originally Posted by JPro If you use QD rings you can flip your Hubble around backwards for when the deer come in too close. Just don't forget to invert your dope chart with a pocket mirror. I like it! WWP53D

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Kaleb #18222641 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 264 J JJF Campfire Member JJF Campfire Member J Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 264 Originally Posted by Kaleb I bet that made perfect sense last night. LMAO!!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” luv2safari #18222969 03/09/23 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,108 Fl, Catskills and Down East Me... eaglemountainman Campfire Regular eaglemountainman Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,108 Fl, Catskills and Down East Me... Originally Posted by luv2safari Originally Posted by colorado bob I've set my Leupold VarX-III 2.5x8 on my 30/06 at 3" high 40 years ago. It's killed everything I shot at. Never had to reset or adjust. Use the same 180 grain load for everything. Simple Yep Know your rifle and how to shoot it. WTH did we do before technology took over "hunting"? I guess all the deer and antelope I got dropped dead, laughing at my '06 with a K 2.5 and later a K 4 on top. I bet ya werent wearin' a stitch of Sitka, Kuiu or First Lite, ....or Kenetreks or Crispis, either. Last edited by eaglemountainman; 03/09/23. My heart's in the mountains, my heart is not here. My heart's in the mountains, chasing the deer.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18222988 03/09/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun H Heym06 Campfire Tracker Heym06 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun I've been using variable power scopes for many years. Originally I set them on four and thats where they stayed. Now days the last ten or so years, I have found setting on five works. I don't swap scopes from rifle to rifle. And very seldom have to change the original sight in!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Heym06 #18223024 03/09/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Originally Posted by Heym06 I've been using variable power scopes for many years. Originally I set them on four and thats where they stayed. Now days the last ten or so years, I have found setting on five works. I don't swap scopes from rifle to rifle. And very seldom have to change the original sight in! This thread is awesome Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18223031 03/09/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Originally Posted by battue So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. Over 20 years High volume and a master of his domain Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223038 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 21,958 western VA J jackmountain Campfire Ranger jackmountain Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 21,958 western VA Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by battue So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. Over 20 years High volume and a master of his domain You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223040 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 21,958 western VA J jackmountain Campfire Ranger jackmountain Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 21,958 western VA Pumpkin pie pics at the restaurant sans family for an encore?

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223088 03/09/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh I’m trying to get an idea what some mean by set and forget. And even though I like Leopold I don’t find that a great endorsement. If using the same load, then set and forget should mean they all should land relatively close. When I read two touching every year for 20 years, does that mean one ragged hole. Or does one’s adjust every year until two are touching, and call it good. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” jackmountain #18223335 03/09/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Originally Posted by jackwagon You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received earned. Everyone’s impressed. Naw. Those entailed dialing drop data and so did the majority of my Long Range Kills. It’s the way it works for precision And the list is quite impressive 👍🏼 Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223339 03/09/23 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,522 Central, Texas L LBP Campfire Outfitter LBP Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,522 Central, Texas I’ve taken lots of game from a few feet to over 300 yards with the same set and forget scope, it’s not that hard actually. Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming. Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” LBP #18223344 03/09/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards? Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” SKane #18223355 03/09/23 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 10,306 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 10,306 Wyoming Originally Posted by SKane Rick, Any guesses on come-ups to the downed trees in the background? What does it matter. That Leupold lost zero on the climb up. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223357 03/09/23 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,522 Central, Texas L LBP Campfire Outfitter LBP Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,522 Central, Texas Originally Posted by rcamuglia Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards? Out to 500 yes prairie dogs and coyotes, hit some miss some but didn’t really matter. I’ve never hunted a game animal I couldn’t get within 300 yards of, and I’ve taken a lot. Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming. Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223365 03/09/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by rcamuglia Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards? There is no place to shoot that far around here. The majority of gun club ranges in the area are 100 yards. The longest in the County is 200 yards. There is a 300 yard range in the next County. Some people actually like to hunt before they shoot. Others simply don't have anyplace in their AO where they can even see game from 500 yards. There are these things called trees/forests that prevent it.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223394 03/09/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun H Heym06 Campfire Tracker Heym06 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by Heym06 I've been using variable power scopes for many years. Originally I set them on four and thats where they stayed. Now days the last ten or so years, I have found setting on five works. I don't swap scopes from rifle to rifle. And very seldom have to change the original sight in! This thread is awesome It doesn't mean I don't play around with mediun range, 600 yds, and dial for fun. No thousand yard ranges near. My hunting areas don't require long range tactics. I never got the bug, for long range hunting. Now it's more awesome!😎

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” jackmountain #18223885 03/10/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Originally Posted by jackmountain Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by battue So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. Over 20 years High volume and a master of his domain You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed. Other than he shoots Leupold scopes why the slam on Rick? The Campfire is a "pics or it didn't happen" website. Talk your game without proof, and sooner or later someone is going to jump on your case. He talks LR shooting and backs it up with proof. Looks like if he slammed Leopold, and raved on about the other top end scopes it would all be ok? Ya, that's what it looks like. Show off your most recent kill, new truck, pics of where you went fishing or hunting. "Yay ,great job!!!!"......Brag on Leupold too much, along with showing proof and giving some [bleep] back in the process, and you go to the colony. Last edited by battue; 03/10/23. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223930 03/10/23 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by rcamuglia Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. Unless everything you measure is a foot or less OR hone your skills, know your weapon and your cartridge and you are good to go as far as I care to HUNT an animal.. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223944 03/10/23 Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca drop_point Campfire Regular drop_point Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca I've killed animals from point blank to 1200 yards. I've killed the majority of whitetail with a bow under 40 yards. I have long range hunting rifles, long range target rifles, varmint rifles, and short-range timber hunting rifles. I select the right tool for the job. If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. "Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” drop_point #18223970 03/10/23 Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,545 W WMR Campfire Regular WMR Campfire Regular W Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,545 Originally Posted by drop_point If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18223979 03/10/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Again....Just what is or are the various individual definitions of set and forget? Myself, if I'm using the same load then it should be very close for each range session or hunt. Consistently off by a couple inches isn't set and forget. Last edited by battue; 03/10/23. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” WMR #18224026 03/10/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Originally Posted by WMR Originally Posted by drop_point If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put. In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc. Last edited by battue; 03/10/23. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18224030 03/10/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Might want to stay on track with the OP. This thread is not about killing game It’s about using a scope on a rifle to precisely steer bullets as you would use your calipers or tape to precisely measure, to make impacts on whatever you’re shooting at, any distance Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18224094 03/10/23 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,922 Greater Browningsville, KY shaman Campfire Outfitter shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,922 Greater Browningsville, KY Writing as a refugee from Planet 4MOA, I can tell you that once I learned about Maximum Point Blank Range, its calculation, and its ramifications, I pretty much stopped twiddling scope knobs. Once I get the crosshairs 2 inches above Zero at 100 yards, I'm good to go out beyond 200 yards with most of my deer rifles. Last fall, I made the longest shot at a buck of my life, a whopping 200 yards. One of the reasons Planet 4MOA evolved the way it did, is because there is no real reason for it not to. If you can go to Walmart and get your new deer rifle zeroed by the counter monkey and go out the next day and shoot a nice buck, who is going to give a rat's patoot about any of this scope falderal. Granted, it was only a 50 yard shot out of a treestand, and with a couple of beers the distance balloons to 150 yards, but a dead deer is a dead deer. Still, 50 yards was as far as a fellow could see in these cedar thickets. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18224124 03/10/23 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by rcamuglia Might want to stay on track with the OP. This thread is not about killing game It’s about using a scope on a rifle to precisely steer bullets as you would use your calipers or tape to precisely measure, to make impacts on whatever you’re shooting at, any distance Then if it's just about punching paper or ringing steel, then we are in agreement... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18224202 03/10/23 Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca drop_point Campfire Regular drop_point Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by WMR Originally Posted by drop_point If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put. In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc. I wouldn't use a 10-50x target scope on a long range hunting rifle that I intended to make a 50 yard shot with. I wouldn't use a high-recoiling long-range hunting rifle for F-Class. "Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” drop_point #18224225 03/10/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh One can most always go to the extreme ends to make a point. I tried to stay within the boundaries of practicality. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18224249 03/10/23 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,070 Midland Michigan boatboy Campfire Outfitter boatboy Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,070 Midland Michigan Here in MI I bet 80% of the deer are show within 100 yds My main place I hunt I sit on the edge of a 40 acre field so I typically stretch my shots quite a bit more but as Skane posted most Midwest hunters cant see past the trees more than 75 yards? and there typically is limited time better be ready I think especially first week of deer season here in MI the deer get chased and aint stupid if they are the are fawns not really what we are looking for Hank Thank You Lord for another day,Help my Brother along the way When you mature,you realize hospitals and schools are businesses,and the Beatles were geniuses Live Like A Champion Today NRA EndowmentLife Member,My Daughter is also a Life Member

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18224315 03/10/23 Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca drop_point Campfire Regular drop_point Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 974 ‘Murca Originally Posted by battue One can most always go to the extreme ends to make a point. I tried to stay within the boundaries of practicality. None of those examples are extreme. While a tool can be versatile and have some overlap, it doesn't mean one tool is suited for all things and all people. Last edited by drop_point; 03/10/23. "Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” drop_point #18224341 03/10/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh You win…. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18224820 03/10/23 Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,545 W WMR Campfire Regular WMR Campfire Regular W Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,545 Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by WMR Originally Posted by drop_point If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put. In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc. Nothing above implies that one tool cannot cover your needs. Just says that there's more than one way to get the job done. Dialing the scope is certainly fine and sometimes seems best. A set mutidot reticle can also do fine for many things. So, there IS more than one tool available. "My way is the only way" is the mantra of the mental midget. I think the OP was just trolling for a response. Guess it worked.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” WMR #18225463 03/10/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 23,056 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 23,056 TN Originally Posted by WMR Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by WMR Originally Posted by drop_point If you think there is only one tool; you're probably the tool. Lots of wisdom in this short statement. Well put. In this case there can be one tool...If you can use it proficiently close and far. Isn't that why they make 3x18, 4x16, 5x25, etc, etc. Nothing above implies that one tool cannot cover your needs. Just says that there's more than one way to get the job done. Dialing the scope is certainly fine and sometimes seems best. A set mutidot reticle can also do fine for many things. So, there IS more than one tool available. "My way is the only way" is the mantra of the mental midget. I think the OP was just trolling for a response. Guess it worked.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18228276 03/11/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun H Heym06 Campfire Tracker Heym06 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by jackmountain Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by battue So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. Over 20 years High volume and a master of his domain You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed. Other than he shoots Leupold scopes why the slam on Rick? The Campfire is a "pics or it didn't happen" website. Talk your game without proof, and sooner or later someone is going to jump on your case. He talks LR shooting and backs it up with proof. Looks like if he slammed Leopold, and raved on about the other top end scopes it would all be ok? Ya, that's what it looks like. Show off your most recent kill, new truck, pics of where you went fishing or hunting. "Yay ,great job!!!!"......Brag on Leupold too much, along with showing proof and giving some [bleep] back in the process, and you go to the colony. Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Heym06 #18228353 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by Heym06 Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by jackmountain Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by battue So… pretty much 40 shots have made a ragged hole. Over 20 years High volume and a master of his domain You should post pics of your ribbons/trophy’s and that list of accolades you’ve received. Everyone’s impressed. Other than he shoots Leupold scopes why the slam on Rick? The Campfire is a "pics or it didn't happen" website. Talk your game without proof, and sooner or later someone is going to jump on your case. He talks LR shooting and backs it up with proof. Looks like if he slammed Leopold, and raved on about the other top end scopes it would all be ok? Ya, that's what it looks like. Show off your most recent kill, new truck, pics of where you went fishing or hunting. "Yay ,great job!!!!"......Brag on Leupold too much, along with showing proof and giving some [bleep] back in the process, and you go to the colony. Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Blackheart #18228451 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,469 Kane WY WYcoyote Campfire Tracker WYcoyote Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,469 Kane WY Originally Posted by Blackheart That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots. Like you've never bragged on this site. LMAO.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18228478 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 43,295 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 43,295 Colorado Originally Posted by rcamuglia Seems kinda like using a 12” ruler to try to measure something 8 feet long by guessing after the first foot. There are no skilled carpenters that use a ruler to measure their cuts. There are plenty of skilled deer hunters that kill piles of deer without dialing. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” smokepole #18228602 03/11/23 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,671 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,671 Originally Posted by smokepole There are plenty of skilled deer hunters that kill piles of deer without dialing. One simply doesn't have to dial, when hunting from a manure spreader.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18228604 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 43,662 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 43,662 What about "I think it's set & I hope it doesn't forget" scopes? "In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18228738 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State F flintlocke Campfire Outfitter flintlocke Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State Leaving aside for the moment, picture posting abilities, and back to 'set and forget'...if a shooter really wanted to forget it, I wonder why the Burris posi-lock didn't sell better? Seemed like a good theory...I was just too cheap to pay another 120 bucks for a set screw. Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” flintlocke #18228756 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 43,662 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 43,662 I believe some people found tightening the set screw moved the zero a bit. "In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” mathman #18228787 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State F flintlocke Campfire Outfitter flintlocke Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State Originally Posted by mathman I believe some people found tightening the set screw moved the zero a bit. ^^^Us old Leupold owners were used to burning a lot of ammo before we could "forget". Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Blackheart #18229239 03/11/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota goalie Campfire Outfitter goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota Originally Posted by Blackheart That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots. That's rich coming from you. 🤡🤡🤡

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” goalie #18229284 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots. That's rich coming from you. 🤡🤡🤡 I don't seek internet relevance, acceptance or fame. It isn't important.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” mathman #18229302 03/11/23 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 826 E elkaddict Campfire Regular elkaddict Campfire Regular E Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 826 Originally Posted by mathman I believe some people found tightening the set screw moved the zero a bit. This was my experience with the posi-locks…. Twice as much ammo unnecessarily burned as the normal leupold adjust and pray. And in my experience, the glass never compared so there was no upside.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Blackheart #18229493 03/11/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota goalie Campfire Outfitter goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots. That's rich coming from you. 🤡🤡🤡 I don't seek internet relevance, acceptance or fame. It isn't important. You say one thing, but your behavior screams something else.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Heym06 #18229494 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Originally Posted by Heym06 ] Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. Found this thing while organizing some stuff. I forgot I finished in the Top 3 that year! Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18229610 03/11/23 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun H Heym06 Campfire Tracker Heym06 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 5,069 Orygun Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by Heym06 ] Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. Found this thing while organizing some stuff. I forgot I finished in the Top 3 that year! Good shooting to earn that. I still stand by my comment. Battue interperted his vision of the fire. I didn't agree, thats how it goes!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18229637 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 27,900 Here Or There luv2safari Campfire Ranger luv2safari Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 27,900 Here Or There Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by Heym06 ] Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. Found this thing while organizing some stuff. I forgot I finished in the Top 3 that year! What scope did you use, and how did you dial it from shot to shot? Also, nobody who takes long shots brag about their screw ups or walks over the 500-700 yards where the animal was standing to check for blood. Hunt with Class and Classics Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” luv2safari #18229642 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 43,295 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 43,295 Colorado Originally Posted by luv2safari Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by Heym06 ] Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. Found this thing while organizing some stuff. I forgot I finished in the Top 3 that year! What scope did you use, and how did you dial it from shot to shot? Dang, I knew he was pretty good at shooting clays, but I didn’t know he used a friggin rifle! A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” goalie #18229671 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart That's what it is too. Bragging and searching for internet relevance/acceptance to folks you don't know, never will and wouldn't care to. Pitiful idiots. That's rich coming from you. 🤡🤡🤡 I don't seek internet relevance, acceptance or fame. It isn't important. You say one thing, but your behavior screams something else. It wasn't me who posted pics of animals or lake houses that weren't mine and claimed they were.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Blackheart #18229767 03/11/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota goalie Campfire Outfitter goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota Originally Posted by Blackheart It wasn't me who posted pics of animals or lake houses that weren't mine and claimed they were. That makes two of us. But, unlike you, I have posted pics. 🤡🤡🤡

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” goalie #18229793 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart It wasn't me who posted pics of animals or lake houses that weren't mine and claimed they were. That makes two of us. But, unlike you, I have posted pics. 🤡🤡🤡 And you're a perpetual braggart. Your job, promotion, rich wife, lake house, the big money you make. The list is nearly endless. I don't need to impress you. Apparently you have a need.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Blackheart #18229797 03/11/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota goalie Campfire Outfitter goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart It wasn't me who posted pics of animals or lake houses that weren't mine and claimed they were. That makes two of us. But, unlike you, I have posted pics. 🤡🤡🤡 And you're a perpetual braggart. Your job, promotion, rich wife, lake house, the big money you make. The list is nearly endless. I don't need to impress you. Apparently you have a need. Oh, but iI was never a famous gunsmith like you. I only know because you felt the need to tell us. No pics of your work though. 🤡🤡😜

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” goalie #18229810 03/11/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Blackheart It wasn't me who posted pics of animals or lake houses that weren't mine and claimed they were. That makes two of us. But, unlike you, I have posted pics. 🤡🤡🤡 And you're a perpetual braggart. Your job, promotion, rich wife, lake house, the big money you make. The list is nearly endless. I don't need to impress you. Apparently you have a need. Oh, but iI was never a famous gunsmith like you. I only know because you felt the need to tell us. No pics of your work though. 🤡🤡😜 Never claimed to be a famous gunsmith. Said my name was mentioned as co builder of a rifle in a magazine article and it was. Not only are you a proven liar but you exaggerate and make shyt up to suit your story of the day. Just two of many reasons I don't care to impress you.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” mathman #18229862 03/11/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Originally Posted by mathman What about "I think it's set & I hope it doesn't forget" scopes? Have to admit that is a good one!!!! laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Heym06 #18229931 03/11/23 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,528 outside the burgh Originally Posted by Heym06 The bigger question is how many holes will it cut...everytime? I still stand by my comment. Battue interperted his vision of the fire. I didn't agree, thats how it goes! Participate as you wish...However, there was little interpertation in how I see the the Fire...It was reality. Daily pics and come hunting season they will increase. New gun pics, target pics, camping pics, truck pics, fishing pics, Dog pics, vacation pics. Long written stories of an adventure. And any who tell about their repeated success will eventually be asked for some proof. Pics are not any different than some saying "I killed this many, I've killed this many with this, killed them with a bow, rifle, handgun.”, whatever. If you want to be truthful, writing up about success is little different than actually showing it..Blackheart for example has bragged on about how many Deer he has killed. Iron sight, scopes, etc, etc. He is no different than the rest of us with a bit of A+ personality. Makes no difference if he writes about it or shows pics. Both are a form of bragging. However, one of them is significantly more convincing. Last edited by battue; 03/11/23. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” battue #18230191 03/11/23 Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 rcamuglia OP Campfire Outfitter OP rcamuglia Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 9,530 Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by Heym06 The bigger question is how many holes will it cut...everytime? I still stand by my comment. Battue interperted his vision of the fire. I didn't agree, thats how it goes! Participate as you wish...However, there was little interpertation in how I see the the Fire...It was reality. Daily pics and come hunting season they will increase. New gun pics, target pics, camping pics, truck pics, fishing pics, Dog pics, vacation pics. Long written stories of an adventure. And any who tell about their repeated success will eventually be asked for some proof. Pics are not any different than some saying "I killed this many, I've killed this many with this, killed them with a bow, rifle, handgun.”, whatever. If you want to be truthful, writing up about success is little different than actually showing it..Blackheart for example has bragged on about how many Deer he has killed. Iron sight, scopes, etc, etc. He is no different than the rest of us with a bit of A+ personality. Makes no difference if he writes about it or shows pics. Both are a form of bragging. However, one of them is significantly more convincing. Yeah, I like how posting pics of trophy animals isn’t “bragging”, but posting pics of trophies is LMFAO Originally Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18231969 03/12/23 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 S specneeds Campfire Regular specneeds Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 Here I thought this was the “Hunting Optics” forum. I love being able to dial the scope on my 6.5 creedmoor & reach out over 1,000 yards on targets but that isn’t hunting for me. My range at home is 225 yards but I have an elk vitals sized rock at 500. I don’t own a center fire rifle that can’t consistently hit near the center of the rock with holdover. Will I win a target competition that way? - not hardly. Will I get to eat lots of delicious dead stuff- all day long. I use a calibrated reticle that is good to 800 but simple holdover is all 90+% of hunters will ever need and is so much faster than dialing its more practical for hunting.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” specneeds #18232075 03/12/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota goalie Campfire Outfitter goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,734 Minnesota Originally Posted by specneeds Here I thought this was the “Hunting Optics” forum. I love being able to dial the scope on my 6.5 creedmoor & reach out over 1,000 yards on targets but that isn’t hunting for me. My range at home is 225 yards but I have an elk vitals sized rock at 500. I don’t own a center fire rifle that can’t consistently hit near the center of the rock with holdover. Will I win a target competition that way? - not hardly. Will I get to eat lots of delicious dead stuff- all day long. I use a calibrated reticle that is good to 800 but simple holdover is all 90+% of hunters will ever need and is so much faster than dialing its more practical for hunting. There's more than one way to hunt. Just because I'd have to cut down trees to shoot over 125 yards anywhere on the land I hunt doesn't mean dialing isn't a good options for others hunting elsewhere.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18232186 03/12/23 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,161 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,161 Wetter'n Oregon I think this whole thing is being presented backwards. The scopes *I* have that are truly “set and forget” are my Nightforce’s, Zeiss V4’s, etc. IE, the extremely mechanically precise, robust, and stable scopes that I dial to hell and back. A Leupold (say) where a guy needs to check sight-in every year before hunting season and make adjustments to get it back on zero is not set and forget! Where’s the “forget”?! It’s set and reset and reset and reset...... The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Jeff_O #18232253 03/12/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 45,145 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 45,145 Battle Born Originally Posted by Jeff_O I think this whole thing is being presented backwards. The scopes *I* have that are truly “set and forget” are my Nightforce’s, Zeiss V4’s, etc. IE, the extremely mechanically precise, robust, and stable scopes that I dial to hell and back. A Leupold (say) where a guy needs to check sight-in every year before hunting season and make adjustments to get it back on zero is not set and forget! Where’s the “forget”?! It’s set and reset and reset and reset...... Like daylight saving time. You will always have to readjust your Leupold. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” goalie #18232292 03/12/23 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 S specneeds Campfire Regular specneeds Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 The new long range craze made possible by rangefinders is very technologically interesting & will allow practiced operators the ability to reach way out. That doesn’t change the effects of wind, the stability of rests in the field, or the likelihood of animals moving unexpectedly. Even here on the lunatic fringe most guys won’t shoot many animals past 500 yards. I know a sniper “instructor” who sets up to shoot bears at 600 yards in steep mountains where recovery is maybe 50% but he gets to brag when he gets one. It’s not my idea of ethical hunting but he wants to be the alpha marksman. Your selection of your tools is your own business- buy a Ferrari to go to the grocery store or a 25x Nightforce to shoot Minnesota Whitetail bucks at 90 yards. But telling me they are necessary is silly.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” mathman #18232331 03/12/23 Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State F flintlocke Campfire Outfitter flintlocke Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 7,673 Siskiyou Co.,Jefferson State Originally Posted by mathman What about "I think it's set & I hope it doesn't forget" scopes? ^^^now that is signature line material par excellence^^^^ Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18232773 03/12/23 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,478 North Carolina C colodog Campfire Tracker colodog Campfire Tracker C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,478 North Carolina My scope needs changed a lot when I moved to the south. Whitetails in the pines are like elk in the timber but I'm no longer sniping prairie dogs, deer, elk or antelope at distance as I once did. 300 yards across a hay field is as far as I'll be shooting any more so a scope with holdover dots has me covered. I like to dial the 22 LR rifle but simplifying is working fine for me. A rangefinder is still nice with the 22s or when I'm hunting a buddies property and I don't know the distances to landmarks across his fields. "Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend." Isak Dinesen

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18233539 03/12/23 Joined: May 2017 Posts: 4,685 Sweet Home W WAM Campfire Tracker WAM Campfire Tracker W Joined: May 2017 Posts: 4,685 Sweet Home Most of my experience tells me that the time from seeing the target animal to acquiring a steady sight picture seldom allows time for fiddle-f***ing around dialing scope turrets. Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18233765 03/12/23 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,161 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,161 Wetter'n Oregon Even at the typical ranges where a guy would be dialing? Seems like when I see game 600-800 yards away it usually either isn’t aware of me at all or doesn’t care. Keep in mind even a guy inclined and equipped to dial can be walking around with their rifle set to MPBZ.... for example it’s as simple as dialing 6 clicks to be 1.5” high at 100 as just a standard, walkaround, “zero”. Does that make sense? So my scope is zero’d at 100 yards; if the dial is at zero, then bullet impacts are dead on at 100. But if I want to have the advantages of max point blank zero I can just click it up 6 clicks and be “zeroed” 1.5” high at 100. But my drop chart is still correct... because my scopes zero point is still the same (100 yards). Sorry if I’m being annoying, I’ve tried to explain this in years past and failed so I’m trying to say it multiple ways here. In the context of this thread, when you trust your scope it ain’t no thang to dial it around like that. Whereas the set and forget guys get real spooky about it... “don’t touch that dial!”, haha. I found a target out on my loading bench the other day from when I first got my NF SHV and built my 6.5 SAUM. I did a test with it where I zeroed at 100, fired a single shot, dialed it like crazy, then back to zero, fired a single shot, repeat 5 times. So, the group is at the bullseye at 100 yards, but each shot has a ton of dialing between it and the previous shot. The 5-shot group is around .7”. That’s the kind of mechanical precision/repeatability us “dialers” are talking about. The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Jeff_O #18233845 03/12/23 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,089 Originally Posted by Jeff_O Even at the typical ranges where a guy would be dialing? Seems like when I see game 600-800 yards away it usually either isn’t aware of me at all or doesn’t care. Keep in mind even a guy inclined and equipped to dial can be walking around with their rifle set to MPBZ.... for example it’s as simple as dialing 6 clicks to be 1.5” high at 100 as just a standard, walkaround, “zero”. Does that make sense? So my scope is zero’d at 100 yards; if the dial is at zero, then bullet impacts are dead on at 100. But if I want to have the advantages of max point blank zero I can just click it up 6 clicks and be “zeroed” 1.5” high at 100. But my drop chart is still correct... because my scopes zero point is still the same (100 yards). Sorry if I’m being annoying, I’ve tried to explain this in years past and failed so I’m trying to say it multiple ways here. In the context of this thread, when you trust your scope it ain’t no thang to dial it around like that. Whereas the set and forget guys get real spooky about it... “don’t touch that dial!”, haha. I found a target out on my loading bench the other day from when I first got my NF SHV and built my 6.5 SAUM. I did a test with it where I zeroed at 100, fired a single shot, dialed it like crazy, then back to zero, fired a single shot, repeat 5 times. So, the group is at the bullseye at 100 yards, but each shot has a ton of dialing between it and the previous shot. The 5-shot group is around .7”. That’s the kind of mechanical precision/repeatability us “dialers” are talking about. That’s wonderful. But I don’t need it and you can keep the extra weight, complexity, and bulkiness associated with those scopes. It just isn’t something that is useful for my hunting.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18234042 03/12/23 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,222 Somewhere Beyond the Sun W Willto Campfire Regular Willto Campfire Regular W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,222 Somewhere Beyond the Sun Quote That’s wonderful. But I don’t need it and you can keep the extra weight, complexity, and bulkiness associated with those scopes. It just isn’t something that is useful for my hunting. Exactly. If someone enjoys trying to knock some paint off a metal gong at 1000 yards then great. If that puts lead in your pencil and keeps you excited about life then more power to you. But I have never had any interest in it. It holds no appeal to me whatsoever. I primarily use my scoped rifles for hunting and the longest shot I have had to take on a game animal in the last 25 years is about 225 yards. So I don't need one of these Hubble sized monstrosities with dialing knobs the size of an Aztec burial mound for my hunting purposes either. So it gets pretty old reading these posts by elitist douche bags who act like anyone not using the same type scope they are and for the same purposes is some kind of know nothing goober. No, I just have no use for a long range dialing scope. How hard is that to comprehend? When it comes to purchasing a truck I could buy a dump truck if I needed one. But I don't so I just stick with a regular pickup truck. Finally, I always recheck the zero on my hunting rigs prior to season because it's just the responsible thing to do. But I have never had any problem with any of them staying zeroed from season to season.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Willto #18234511 03/12/23 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,507 Originally Posted by Willto Quote That’s wonderful. But I don’t need it and you can keep the extra weight, complexity, and bulkiness associated with those scopes. It just isn’t something that is useful for my hunting. Exactly. If someone enjoys trying to knock some paint off a metal gong at 1000 yards then great. If that puts lead in your pencil and keeps you excited about life then more power to you. But I have never had any interest in it. It holds no appeal to me whatsoever. I primarily use my scoped rifles for hunting and the longest shot I have had to take on a game animal in the last 25 years is about 225 yards. So I don't need one of these Hubble sized monstrosities with dialing knobs the size of an Aztec burial mound for my hunting purposes either. So it gets pretty old reading these posts by elitist douche bags who act like anyone not using the same type scope they are and for the same purposes is some kind of know nothing goober. No, I just have no use for a long range dialing scope. How hard is that to comprehend? When it comes to purchasing a truck I could buy a dump truck if I needed one. But I don't so I just stick with a regular pickup truck. Finally, I always recheck the zero on my hunting rigs prior to season because it's just the responsible thing to do. But I have never had any problem with any of them staying zeroed from season to season. Well said !!!!!!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18234798 03/13/23 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,105 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by rcamuglia Originally Posted by Heym06 ] Your interpretation of the campfire, doesn't equate to mine. Some of us are secure enough in ourselves, we don't feel the need, to brag with pictures, and such. But too each his own. But apparently not secure enough to respond when you ass has been handed to you: Originally Posted by jorgeI Originally Posted by Heym06 [quote=jorgeI]It's even worse. Approximately 75% of the military age population (18-24 is considered to be the "first round')is either too fat, too stupid or are on some kind of medication that disqualifies them. Now hold that thought. Enter the chinese planned, financed and executed (via the cartels) fentanyl invasion into the US. Approximately 80-100K PER YEAR deaths as a results and the age bracket? 18-45. Guess what age group is considered for military service? If you don't think they are being targeted, you must be pro-Ukraine war (aka a moron). That said, I'm not concerned with the Russians AT ALL. Now the chinese is an entirely different issue. I'm guessing you pulled the 75% number, from between your cheeks! I reckon my gluteal cleft has at least 50 IQ points over your pointy head.. HINT: the blue outlined words below are links to articles you might find interesting (sorry limited pictures) recruits my ass heymthe retard doesyourbuttholehurtyet? A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18235521 03/13/23 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,614 Alberta catnthehat Campfire Tracker catnthehat Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,614 Alberta Originally Posted by rcamuglia Have you ever shot at a target from 500 to 1500 yards? When I hit the range I am continually adjusting up and down, with both the front and rear sights- but then, I rarely shoot at targets wit a scope! :>) Cat scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18237318 03/13/23 Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 4,243 H Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker Hogwild7 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 4,243 I don't dial because I have.Leupolds on my Big Game rifles. They don't adjust as advertised so I wouldn't count on them to dial. I just aim high on the deer if they are too far to hold dead on. I have been successfup doing Kentucky windage. I did swap one Leupold out this year for a.Trijicon. anxious to see how it does.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18237457 03/13/23 Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,487 Florida J jc189 Campfire Regular jc189 Campfire Regular J Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 2,487 Florida I did the same thing. I'm real happy with my Trijicon Credo.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18238602 03/14/23 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,434 Central IN H HoosierHawk Campfire Regular HoosierHawk Campfire Regular H Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,434 Central IN Humility is one of the finest qualities a man can possess. Scorn for others is rarely seen by most as a positive quality.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” Jeff_O #18243562 03/15/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 45,145 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 45,145 Battle Born Originally Posted by Jeff_O Even at the typical ranges where a guy would be dialing? Seems like when I see game 600-800 yards away it usually either isn’t aware of me at all or doesn’t care. Keep in mind even a guy inclined and equipped to dial can be walking around with their rifle set to MPBZ.... for example it’s as simple as dialing 6 clicks to be 1.5” high at 100 as just a standard, walkaround, “zero”. Does that make sense? So my scope is zero’d at 100 yards; if the dial is at zero, then bullet impacts are dead on at 100. But if I want to have the advantages of max point blank zero I can just click it up 6 clicks and be “zeroed” 1.5” high at 100. But my drop chart is still correct... because my scopes zero point is still the same (100 yards). Sorry if I’m being annoying, I’ve tried to explain this in years past and failed so I’m trying to say it multiple ways here. In the context of this thread, when you trust your scope it ain’t no thang to dial it around like that. Whereas the set and forget guys get real spooky about it... “don’t touch that dial!”, haha. I found a target out on my loading bench the other day from when I first got my NF SHV and built my 6.5 SAUM. I did a test with it where I zeroed at 100, fired a single shot, dialed it like crazy, then back to zero, fired a single shot, repeat 5 times. So, the group is at the bullseye at 100 yards, but each shot has a ton of dialing between it and the previous shot. The 5-shot group is around .7”. That’s the kind of mechanical precision/repeatability us “dialers” are talking about. A lot of these guys don't get that or don't want to get that Jeff. They even get pissy when you show them a good reasonably priced scope and hunting rifle that will work much better than most Leupolds, but cost far less. They just don't want to hear it. Set your zero, so it's actually "zeroed": Then test it at range, using the ballistic plex reticle: That is the kind of "set and forget" I like in a hunting rifle. Kentucky windage was cool when I was a kid, but they have good reticles these days that take the guess work out of it. You just have to confirm them by using them and setting them up properly. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18243653 03/15/23 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 745 J John55 Campfire Regular John55 Campfire Regular J Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 745 Good illustration of what a ballistic plex reticle is capable of! I’ve used a VX Leupold of one kind or another so equipped since they came out years ago, and in spite of having several very reliable “dialing” type scopes I find this type reticle much faster and easier to use while hunting. Easy enough to use a bit of hold over or under for the in between ranges. Last edited by John55; 03/15/23.

Re: “Set and Forget Scopes” rcamuglia #18244811 03/15/23 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 S specneeds Campfire Regular specneeds Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,421 Hunters who sight in at 200+ & have familiar, practiced ballistic reticles have the ability to make instantaneous longer range shots. Are they always required on animals at 400+ yards? Not really. The last elk I tried to find antlers on at 490 yards didn’t know I was there - she was huge & looked delicious but my cow tag wasn’t good on that side of the highway. The cows before that gave me much less time. I use a flat shooting 300 Weatherby sighted in at 225 yards. This puts my hash marks on perfectly out to 800 yards on the Conquest 3-15x50 at 15 power. But for everything under 350 yards that is a simple point & shoot.